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Brighton Sky Blue

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Im not even being facetious but when he appears people just turn off.

Can you genuinely remember a leader so disliked before him as I can’t
Boris lad during his last however many months in office.
 

Grendel

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Boris lad during his last however many months in office.

I actually don’t think so in the sense he still had supporters - with Starmer he’s got less distractors but also less supporters. It’s dislike or just indifference

The only reason Reform and the Greens are hovering is because of him and his clueless idiot chancellor.

I suspect the bloodbath in May will mean they are both fucked for good.
 

Grendel

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Brighton Sky Blue

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I actually don’t think so in the sense he still had supporters - with Starmer he’s got less distractors but also less supporters. It’s dislike or just indifference

The only reason Reform and the Greens are hovering is because of him and his clueless idiot chancellor.

I suspect the bloodbath in May will mean they are both fucked for good.
Just going on job approval, Starmer is tracking a bit worse than Johnson even at his peak, though it's close.



Johnson peak 'bad' was -51, Starmer currently -55.
 

skybluetony176

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Im not even being facetious but when he appears people just turn off.

Can you genuinely remember a leader so disliked before him as I can’t
You’re either being very disingenuous or have an extremely short memory. Liz Truss broke all records and by some distance for nett approval. She didn’t even enjoy a honeymoon period. Starmer has to fall another 20 plus points to match her
 

Grendel

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You’re either being very disingenuous or have an extremely short memory. Liz Truss broke all records and by some distance for nett approval. She didn’t even enjoy a honeymoon period. Starmer has to fall another 20 plus points to match her

I think I’ve already said that Tonester but it’s scraping the barrel to try and say “hey I’m better than Liz but not as good as Bojo”

What a slogan
 

Grendel

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Sunak was also at -50 in his last few months.

He was as Starmer and Reeves keep blathering on about at the arse end of “14 years of failure” - so you’d think the new bright dawning light of the new beginnings should be better - not worse!
 

skybluetony176

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I think I’ve already said that Tonester but it’s scraping the barrel to try and say “hey I’m better than Liz but not as good as Bojo”

What a slogan
It’s not a good slogan at all but I never said it was. That’s just your whataboutery. The ultimate irony that policy wise there’s a gnats cock between Boris and Starmer, renationalising railways aside.

If we’re doing whataboutery do you think Boris would have blindly followed the US and Israel in bombing Iran. I suspect at least he would have allowed airbases on British soil to be used for launching the attacks. I mean after all Boris did consider invading Netherlands to get COVID jabs so he sounds stupid enough to follow Israel and the US into Iran.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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He was as Starmer and Reeves keep blathering on about at the arse end of “14 years of failure” - so you’d think the new bright dawning light of the new beginnings should be better - not worse!
I agree. He was given an enormous majority and started out with goodwill and a clean slate from the electorate.

Within months it became apparent he was almost on a solo mission to become as unpopular as possible. I say almost, his sidekick Severus Snape is even worse.
 

Grendel

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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it isn’t though is it? Starmer actually just fence sits - he offers neither a negative or any actual support.

it’s a scripted image driven speech with zero opinion or belief with Union Jacks waving in the background - It’s exactly why many are looking at alternatives beyond the mainstream
And both those alternatives would have very different responses. One would steadfastly oppose, the other would jump in with the US so enthusiastically it'd make Starmer look he's giving strong opposition to the US.
 

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