mark82
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If we sell one of the best players they'd be stupid to not replace with a quality signing. It will happen. Doubt we'd spend big though.
yeah I was actually good example give you that
I’m not asking for much just seems that we’re looking to make a big sale And are not actively looking at investing in a replacement, from what I’ve read on here
People get that
We're not asking for the world
From my view its basically, we've done what you've asked in numbers, now you invest for once. No ones asking for millions, just that CB that can shore up the defence, or the LWB that can attack AND defend
If we have a shit window and start poorly that place can turn toxic quickly as we all well know
If we sell one of the best players they'd be stupid to not replace with a quality signing. It will happen. Doubt we'd spend big though.
If we sell one of the best players they'd be stupid to not replace with a quality signing. It will happen. Doubt we'd spend big though.
We talk about this plan of buying them cheaper and then selling them on, if we don’t replace Hamer then how do you sell the next one on?
Exactly this is exactly the point. Everyone expects us to sell our best players at some point but the whole 'model' falls apart if you don't replace.We talk about this plan of buying them cheaper and then selling them on, if we don’t replace Hamer then how do you sell the next one on?
Agree with this, although I would say it’s likely that when Ranson was here and we signed Fox, Dann, Westwood and then failed to go up Sisu panicked and stopped that approach. I would have loved to have seen that carried on one more season just to see what we could have achieved.Also we didn’t go bust because we overreached. We went bust through a calamitous combination of lack of parachute payments, ITV Digital going bust, and piss poor management of the assets and opportunities of the club. The idea if we ever sign anyone again we’ll go pop is bollocks.
Ther is no way back for SISU in a lot of fans minds after the the utter shitshow of the stadium wrangles and move to Brum....Really really annoys me how everyone forgets how awful they are because the short term results from the team cover it up
He’s very very good.Yeah having sheaf would soften the Hamer blow. Think he could get even better when he’s given the keys to run the midfield without Hamer there.
Ther is no way back for SISU in a lot of fans minds after the the utter shitshow of the stadium wrangles and move to Brum....
But... To be fair to the owners since the return to the CBS there seems like an attitude change. Far better comms with the fans, they have been investing in infrastructure where they can. Given new contracts to key staff and players. Small stuff like match day atmosphere, commercial things like the tavern and links with Hummel have really added up to a pretty positive outlook in my book
Yeah I think he started well and then fell out of favour but he’d suit that LCB position in our system.
I agree with the second paragraph
my point is if they for example don’t replace a quality player with a replacement
all the hard work theyve done could easily turn if we don’t start getting results because of previous history
we’re doing well on the pitch and they need to fund that and keep the fans happy
I agree that Sheaf has not yet reached his potential and if he improves the same amount again we will have a real asset on our hands. Not sure he has the same attributes as Hamer to fill his shoes, so i hope we can keep them both.Yeah having sheaf would soften the Hamer blow. Think he could get even better when he’s given the keys to run the midfield without Hamer there.
People keep referring to the "Big 3", it should be a "Big 4" with the addition of Sheaf.
He is top quality, on a different level to the rest apparently.
The others can't compete with him in training.
We have a real talent on our hands.
What? Did you attend any matches after Christmas?It shouldn't be 'the big 4' until he does it on the pitch. He isn't remotely close to the others yet.
What? Did you attend any matches after Christmas?
ffsAre we really so skint that the only markets we can shop in are ‘Championship rejects’ (Kane, Palmer, Bidwell, Waghorn) and loanees? How depressing.
Would be nice to see us sign some up and coming players from the league below or Scotland/The Netherlands again.
Yep. Can accept players going, can accept not all the money being used on transfers. If, however, next to nothing is used for the squad then that's not just an uphill battle, that's scaling Everest in Speedos.There was the Callum Wilson sell on fee the summer we were promoted. No real problem with having to sell a player as this has always been the case with us, but given the likely fees we could get for Hamer or Vik it beggars belief that Robins wouldn't get some of the funds.
It isn't ridiculous at all. Hamer plays well in part due to how good sheaf is in his role. In my opinion sheaf is far more valuable than hamer.Sheaf is in the next cluster down from the 'big 3'.
He's got potential of course, but to put him in the same category as Gyökeres and Hamer at this point in time is ridiculous.
Sheaf more valuable than Hamer?It isn't ridiculous at all. Hamer plays well in part due to how good sheaf is in his role. In my opinion sheaf is far more valuable than hamer.
I think it should be a big 5 and add Dabo as wellPeople keep referring to the "Big 3", it should be a "Big 4" with the addition of Sheaf.
He is top quality, on a different level to the rest apparently.
The others can't compete with him in training.
We have a real talent on our hands.
Creative and attacking players clearly get bigger bids. Value to the team though sheaf for me is way more importantSheaf more valuable than Hamer?
Ok, let’s see if someone bids £10m for Sheaf - much rather sell him than Gus.
Just for the record, Sheaf has improved this season and is a decent player.
Gus has that X-Factor and is less easy to replace.
Are we really so skint that the only markets we can shop in are ‘Championship rejects’ (Kane, Palmer, Bidwell, Waghorn) and loanees? How depressing.
Would be nice to see us sign some up and coming players from the league below or Scotland/The Netherlands again.
You can go shopping at either Aldi or Harrods for the ingredients but it is up to the chef to make the meal. Likewise, it is Robins and his team that do the training and can take an average player like O'Hare and make him into something special. Of course that is not going to happen everytime but at this point in time it happens more often than not. Look at Sheaf, he came on loan at the same time as Walsh. Sheaf stayed at the utter bewilderment of our fans and Walsh left with tears from our supporters. Now a year later and Sheaf is starting to produce what Robins and his team knew he could do and where is Walsh?
Likewise, the same will be with Palmer. I believe 100% this guy is going to be another level with us not only because AV and a few players know him but also Dennis Lawrence knows him well. Dennis Lawrence is not getting the credit he richly deserves about the player's attitude and increase in level of performance. The reason, you will find, he didn't perform at certain clubs was not because of his ability but because of the coach staff around him. We play his style and you will see him blossom.
I understand the need to building a foundation and not spending out of your means as a club, but the main basis of that is surely to reinvest in the team the money you gain from a significant transfer to slowly strengthen what you have on the pitch. Selling an asset like Hamer for say the 10m quoted (which we’ve in fact never had these sums) then 70% of that transfer fee goes to SISU to “recover from previous seasons” and 30% for the “daily running of the club” and Robins can reinvest his wages isn’t the way to build a foundation and stability in this division. It’s a one way return ticket to L1.I understand the frustration and I wish we could as well but we are trying to build a solid foundation for the future. Every team around us is spending money they don’t have to get to the promised land. The situation with derby will not be the last in this division and we will be glad we have operated like this is 2/3 seasons time. Maintenance/slow improvement will set us up financially for years to come and from where we have come from is more valuable then a few million £ players.
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