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I do live outside Bury, it’s the nearest town to me. And it’s also a shit hole. Ruined by mass immigration, HMOs and a labour council that has no care for its people.
We parked and walked about 25 minutes to the ground. Lots of new housing around but there was the remnants of one terraced street about 30 houses. It Was packed with uber cars parked up and at the end it was like something you see on the news in Birmingham with rubbish piled about 6ft high. Mattresses, old tellys and a couple of dead rats on the side of the road.
 
Obviously you have much more experience than me I just know if we go for concerts we look for Manchester as I've always enjoyed it up there

Either way it has more going for it than our esteemed centre unless you want continuous nitties and chavs
Manchester's like anywhere, it has good areas and areas it's best to avoid.

In the main, though, it's down-to-earth, welcoming and vibrant.
 
We parked and walked about 25 minutes to the ground. Lots of new housing around but there was the remnants of one terraced street about 30 houses. It Was packed with uber cars parked up and at the end it was like something you see on the news in Birmingham with rubbish piled about 6ft high. Mattresses, old tellys and a couple of dead rats on the side of the road.
You mean by the Milliondollar Brum palace ground 😁
 
I do live outside Bury, it’s the nearest town to me. And it’s also a shit hole. Ruined by mass immigration, HMOs and a labour council that has no care for its people.
We avoid Manchester City centre. We always do day trips to London or Edinburgh. It’s not a nice place if you live here trust me.
I live in Manchester, actually Manchester. Its quality, to suggest otherwise is mental, theres a clear reason it's the fastest growing city center and metropolitan area in general in the UK (and you can find the demographics online about who they are before you start any migrant nonsense). It's regularly awarded best city in the UK for nightlife and other things in stuff like timeout.

I get Piccadilly gardens is rough as fuck and the satellite towns like Bury, Oldham etc are run down (like most small towns in the UK) but just because you don't like it is mad to say the whole place is a shit hole. I live in South Manchester and it's the insanely middle-class. I don't particularly like London and there's parts that are rough as fuck, but I I'd be mad to let that anger me enough to say something silly like it's shit there.
 
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We parked on the housing estate south of the staduim, houses looked modern id guess 10-20 years old. But what a shithole, rough as fuck, not looked after, piles of rubbish on the street.
 
If you think Manchester is shit then wait until you get to London. It's basically that x 1000

edit. both massive cities, both have good and bad areas. Anything you are running away from in Manchester is going to be in London as well.
 
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If you think Manchester is shit then wait until you get to London. It's basically that x 1000

edit. both massive cities, both have good and bad areas. Anything you are running away from in Manchester is going to be in London as well.
I lived in London for 40 years some parts nice and some parts not so nice but to claim it's is shit is ridiculous.
 
If you think Manchester is shit then wait until you get to London. It's basically that x 1000

edit. both massive cities, both have good and bad areas. Anything you are running away from in Manchester is going to be in London as well.

Love London myself. Great place, cracking boozers everywhere
 
Love London myself. Great place, cracking boozers everywhere
Bit like Manchester and also like Manchester in that the east of teh city has always been poorer (how the wind blows and used to take the factory smog eastwards, same as a lot of cities).
 
Bit like Manchester and also like Manchester in that the east of teh city has always been poorer (how the wind blows and used to take the factory smog eastwards, same as a lot of cities).

Manchester just doesnt do it for me, I know loads of people love the place but just not my cup of tea. Though saying that, had a great day Saturday.
 
London is lovely. Personally never liked Manchester but would take both over Birmingham.
 
We parked on the housing estate south of the staduim, houses looked modern id guess 10-20 years old. But what a shithole, rough as fuck, not looked after, piles of rubbish on the street.
There's modern houses in parts of say Holbrooks and some of those parts are shitholes as well.

It is like every city.
 
Atmosphere from them was pretty dull from the home end apart from immediately after they scored, but credit where its due, there was handful of younger lads close to where I was sat (bottom tier couple of seats away from the segregation with the city fans to the left) trying to get songs going and in their defence the majority of them were unique and not the rehashed songs every fan base in the EFL churn out
 
Totally agree. 38 years living up here and also working in the city it’s changed so much. In its day Manchester was amazing nights out. It’s all changed for the worse. My wife works in Manchester and she doesn’t feel safe getting the tram home. Her choice is to move and look for another job somewhere, but not Manchester. If you know you know 🫣
My son's up there - a musician studying at RNCM. Moved into digs M14 post code, 15 mins drive outside City centre. Seems to have got by in his first year so far, but was a bit nervous about the area when he first moved. Going to watch him play a gig the evening after we're due to play United in the afternoon.
 
My son's up there - a musician studying at RNCM. Moved into digs M14 post code, 15 mins drive outside City centre. Seems to have got by in his first year so far, but was a bit nervous about the area when he first moved. Going to watch him play a gig the evening after we're due to play United in the afternoon.
M14 is like Fallowfield which while looking rundown is the student living area.
 
Atmosphere from them was pretty dull from the home end apart from immediately after they scored, but credit where its due, there was handful of younger lads close to where I was sat (bottom tier couple of seats away from the segregation with the city fans to the left) trying to get songs going and in their defence the majority of them were unique and not the rehashed songs every fan base in the EFL churn out
Not much of a surprise though is it they’d have expected a 4-0 walkover
 
There's modern houses in parts of say Holbrooks and some of those parts are shitholes as well.

It is like every city.
I wouldn't say Holbrooks is a nice area to be fair. There's a reason they built the Arena there. Because it was cheap and run down.
 
I live in Manchester, actually Manchester. Its quality, to suggest otherwise is mental, theres a clear reason it's the fastest growing city center and metropolitan area in general in the UK (and you can find the demographics online about who they are before you start any migrant nonsense). It's regularly awarded best city in the UK for nightlife and other things in stuff like timeout.

I get Piccadilly gardens is rough as fuck and the satellite towns like Bury, Oldham etc are run down (like most small towns in the UK) but just because you don't like it is mad to say the whole place is a shit hole. I live in South Manchester and it's the insanely middle-class. I don't particularly like London and there's parts that are rough as fuck, but I I'd be mad to let that anger me enough to say something silly like it's shit there.

I agree with all of what you've said. I think some people class going to a city as going to the Wetherspoons near the train station or parking in an industrial/housing estate near a new build stadium, walking straight into the ground and saying what a shithole. To summarise any city based on a 20 minute view is childish.

I live in Chester now but partner's family are from South Manchester, and I've visited and enjoyed some great trips to Chorlton, Didsbury, Altrincham etc. There's a vibrant music/stand up comedy scene, restaurants and great nights out to be had across the Northern Quarter, all within a 25 minute walk of the train station if some people could be bothered to go beyond the Piccadilly Tavern.

I don't think there's any new build stadiums that are in good areas, and neither HR or the CBS were/are in metropolitan hotspots.
 
I agree with all of what you've said. I think some people class going to a city as going to the Wetherspoons near the train station or parking in an industrial/housing estate near a new build stadium, walking straight into the ground and saying what a shithole. To summarise any city based on a 20 minute view is childish.

I live in Chester now but partner's family are from South Manchester, and I've visited and enjoyed some great trips to Chorlton, Didsbury, Altrincham etc. There's a vibrant music/stand up comedy scene, restaurants and great nights out to be had across the Northern Quarter, all within a 25 minute walk of the train station if some people could be bothered to go beyond the Piccadilly Tavern.

I don't think there's any new build stadiums that are in good areas, and neither HR or the CBS were/are in metropolitan hotspots.

Was in the Piccadilly Tavern Saturday for one.
Was like aSpoons, but one that had had a crack epidemic!
 
Was in the Piccadilly Tavern Saturday for one.
Was like aSpoons, but one that had had a crack epidemic!

Yeah it’s in Piccadilly Gardens, just like going to the Wine Lodge or any pub in the Burgess.

So many good pubs a few minutes walk further away or next to Victoria if you’re with a group that doesn’t like walking
 
If you think Manchester is shit then wait until you get to London. It's basically that x 1000

edit. both massive cities, both have good and bad areas. Anything you are running away from in Manchester is going to be in London as well.
Personally I really like Bristol. Small enough to get around easily but so much choice when it comes to a night out
 
Suppose it's like comparing Wood End to Styvechale
Or Bell Green to Finham

Every city has shit areas and every city has nice areas. I just know our city centre is one place I can't stand but I actually enjoyed Manchester city centre every time I go there
I don’t think I’ve seen any Coventry street with as much litter as they have. It’s like none of them know where a bin is.
 
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My son's up there - a musician studying at RNCM. Moved into digs M14 post code, 15 mins drive outside City centre. Seems to have got by in his first year so far, but was a bit nervous about the area when he first moved. Going to watch him play a gig the evening after we're due to play United in the afternoon.
I’ve been up here 38 years now and Manchester was brilliant. The people as friendly as you would like. In the last 10 years the demographics has changed so much it’s not recognisable. If you don’t know the city centre you could end up in trouble. It’s not safe anymore.
 
My son's up there - a musician studying at RNCM. Moved into digs M14 post code, 15 mins drive outside City centre. Seems to have got by in his first year so far, but was a bit nervous about the area when he first moved. Going to watch him play a gig the evening after we're due to play United in the afternoon.
M14 is Moss Side, nowhere near as rough as it was 30 years ago
 
My son's up there - a musician studying at RNCM. Moved into digs M14 post code, 15 mins drive outside City centre. Seems to have got by in his first year so far, but was a bit nervous about the area when he first moved. Going to watch him play a gig the evening after we're due to play United in the afternoon.

All part of the uni experience. I remember being in The Meadows in Nottingham during the height of gun violence. There was a burned out car on my road when I moved in and some 12 year olds knocked on the door selling tasers and night sticks and ten bags of weed. Other than getting burgled once when a housemate let his dealer into the house never had any trouble really. All their beef was with people who lived there full time.
 
I’ve been up here 38 years now and Manchester was brilliant. The people as friendly as you would like. In the last 10 years the demographics has changed so much it’s not recognisable. If you don’t know the city centre you could end up in trouble. It’s not safe anymore.
It's fine but it seems you are racist as well as homophobic.

Maybe the issue is you and people just think you are a twat.

If you have lived there for 38 years you will know what a shithole the city was before the regeneration as spurred on by the 1996 bombing.

The demographics haven't even changed that much in 10 years
 
I’ve been up here 38 years now and Manchester was brilliant. The people as friendly as you would like. In the last 10 years the demographics has changed so much it’s not recognisable. If you don’t know the city centre you could end up in trouble. It’s not safe anymore.
Yeah somewhere so famous for violence in the town center and it's clubs it was dubbed Gunchester 30 years ago has now been mostly replaced with lads in Birkenstocks selling £6 flat whites. So terrible.
 

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