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If you think Manchester is shit then wait until you get to London. It's basically that x 1000

edit. both massive cities, both have good and bad areas. Anything you are running away from in Manchester is going to be in London as well.
Love London and it's history.
 
Yeah it’s in Piccadilly Gardens, just like going to the Wine Lodge or any pub in the Burgess.

So many good pubs a few minutes walk further away or next to Victoria if you’re with a group that doesn’t like walking

Yeah, went to some decent bars after that
 
Yeah somewhere so famous for violence in the town center and it's clubs it was dubbed Gunchester 30 years ago has now been mostly replaced with lads in Birkenstocks selling £6 flat whites. So terrible.
He is equating an imagined increase in "non white" people with more danger when a) Manchester has always had larger ethnic minority populations and b) most of the most dangerous people in the worse times were white
 
I’ve been up here 38 years now and Manchester was brilliant. The people as friendly as you would like. In the last 10 years the demographics has changed so much it’s not recognisable. If you don’t know the city centre you could end up in trouble. It’s not safe anymore.
Yeah, I'd probably think this if I were a fucking idiot, too.
 
He is equating an imagined increase in "non white" people with more danger when a) Manchester has always had larger ethnic minority populations and b) most of the most dangerous people in the worse times were white
Oh yeah I got that loud and clear from his first post.
 
I agree with all of what you've said. I think some people class going to a city as going to the Wetherspoons near the train station or parking in an industrial/housing estate near a new build stadium, walking straight into the ground and saying what a shithole. To summarise any city based on a 20 minute view is childish.

I live in Chester now but partner's family are from South Manchester, and I've visited and enjoyed some great trips to Chorlton, Didsbury, Altrincham etc. There's a vibrant music/stand up comedy scene, restaurants and great nights out to be had across the Northern Quarter, all within a 25 minute walk of the train station if some people could be bothered to go beyond the Piccadilly Tavern.

I don't think there's any new build stadiums that are in good areas, and neither HR or the CBS were/are in metropolitan hotspots.
I did the Didsbury Dozen (12 pubs) in the summer - very pleasant day and felt safe, though I appreciate not all parts of Manchester (or any other city) are as nice and friendly.
 
Seems to have become cool to be down on London.. not my choice of a place to live but a fantastic visit… everything you need for a decent weekend, personally have never got any trouble .. what’s not to like … prefer Liverpool to Manchester but that just a personal preference …
 
London has got shit in the last 5-10 years with licensing laws being tightened due to NIMBY fucks.

You used to be able to go wherever and have a good night but now the whole place is shut early unless you know where you're going.
 
I live in Manchester, actually Manchester. Its quality, to suggest otherwise is mental, theres a clear reason it's the fastest growing city center and metropolitan area in general in the UK (and you can find the demographics online about who they are before you start any migrant nonsense). It's regularly awarded best city in the UK for nightlife and other things in stuff like timeout.

I get Piccadilly gardens is rough as fuck and the satellite towns like Bury, Oldham etc are run down (like most small towns in the UK) but just because you don't like it is mad to say the whole place is a shit hole. I live in South Manchester and it's the insanely middle-class. I don't particularly like London and there's parts that are rough as fuck, but I I'd be mad to let that anger me enough to say something silly like it's shit there.
Bury is a nice place has a good town centre.
 

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