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Sky Blue Harry H · Apr 3, 2022

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987 said:
Can see 2 of the 3 (gyok and gus) leaving and not being adequately replaced but I hope I am wrong

If you can see the first bit happening, fair enough, but how can you envisage them not being adequately replaced. When we signed the pair of them initially, it was 'who?' and a 'meh' from the majority of the fanbase. I love Gus and Gyo, but no players are irreplaceable, and the team we follow now will probably have 10/11 different starters in 3/4 years time, as will the majority of clubs. Players come and go
On a side note, you didn't envisage our last minute equaliser either ; )

Ccfcisparks · Apr 3, 2022

Sky Blue Harry H said:
If you can see the first bit happening, fair enough, but how can you envisage them not being adequately replaced. When we signed the pair of them initially, it was 'who?' and a 'meh' from the majority of the fanbase. I love Gus and Gyo, but no players are irreplaceable, and the team we follow now will probably have 10/11 different starters in 3/4 years time, as will the majority of clubs. Players come and go
On a side note, you didn't envisage our last minute equaliser either ; )

I seem to remember everyone being really excited when we signed Gus

SkyblueTexan · Apr 3, 2022

Watching the EFL Trophy final. Sutton have played fairly well and have some decent players. They actually taken the lead now. We might need to unearth some gems from the lower leagues considering our budget, especially if we want to hang on to our main assets.

sylus · Apr 3, 2022

get rid of the deadwood, but do our best to keep 3 key, players, o'hare, hamer and Gyökeres,

Sky Blue Harry H · Apr 3, 2022

Ccfcisparks said:
I seem to remember everyone being really excited when we signed Gus

Excited, but still 'who? Nobody had a clue what he was going to be like - aside from a few Youtube clips (that also made Kastaneer look like a world beater!(

Sky Blue Harry H · Apr 3, 2022

sylus said:
get rid of the deadwood, but do our best to keep 3 key, players, o'hare, hamer and Gyökeres,

Agree - but we also need to replace the deadwood with bodies to have a squad big enough to cope. Therein lies the problem - not all signings pay off, and even with a bigger budget, we will have to take a chance on potential, rather than ready made, good to go.

rexo87 · Apr 3, 2022

Defence is far more important than improving our midfield and forwards. Kane and Dabo are probably good enough for us to leave the RWB slot but I think we will need at least 2 CB's in the summer and at least 1 LWB

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SlowerThanPlatt · Apr 3, 2022

sylus said:
get rid of the deadwood, but do our best to keep 3 key, players, o'hare, hamer and Gyökeres,

How much would you value them three at?

Jagmannn · Apr 3, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
The Stoke job may be available

The Blackburn Rovers job

Sky Blue Harry H · Apr 3, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
How much would you value them three at?

Gyo I'd be unhappy at anything under £8m, Hamer 6-7m, but has potential to increase (both of these have potential to increase in value if we keep them for another season, or arguably decrease?! Cal O'Hare - difficult, because I can't think how you replace him, unless there is someone abroad who I've never heard of. Can't think of anyone similar in the EFL. Just love his personality and work ethic.

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987 · Apr 3, 2022

Sky Blue Harry H said:
If you can see the first bit happening, fair enough, but how can you envisage them not being adequately replaced. When we signed the pair of them initially, it was 'who?' and a 'meh' from the majority of the fanbase. I love Gus and Gyo, but no players are irreplaceable, and the team we follow now will probably have 10/11 different starters in 3/4 years time, as will the majority of clubs. Players come and go
On a side note, you didn't envisage our last minute equaliser either ; )

I think they will be replaced - but I don’t think we will be able to bring in anyone with the same quality they had. And yes , I didn’t envisage it to be fair , But I had stayed for all the others including huddersfield away so My luck had to run out at one point

sylus · Apr 3, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
How much would you value them three at?

personnally my value of. oHare, 6-8 M HAMER. 5-6M. Gyökeres, 10M.

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 3, 2022

I have said for a while that I can see Norwich coming in for any or all of the big three we have as they will need to rebuild.

I like Jorge Grant at Peterborough but they are good at getting top value for their players.

We also potentially have the cost of the returning loans.

We also need to get rid of a few of the under 23’s that are no use to the first team they may not cost a lot in championship terms but they are a drain.

SlowerThanPlatt · Apr 3, 2022

Terry Gibson's perm said:
I have said for a while that I can see Norwich coming in for any or all of the big three we have as they will need to rebuild.

I like Jorge Grant at Peterborough but they are good at getting top value for their players.

We also potentially have the cost of the returning loans.

We also need to get rid of a few of the under 23’s that are no use to the first team they may not cost a lot in championship terms but they are a drain.

I don’t think Grant has even been starting for Peterborough recently

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 3, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
I don’t think Grant has even been starting for Peterborough recently

Maybe I can’t say I watch them much but whenever I see him play he looks an adventurous type.

I forgot to say the player I always go on about and that is Sawyers at West Brom who is on loan at Stoke.

clint van damme · Apr 3, 2022

sylus said:
personnally my value of. oHare, 6-8 M HAMER. 5-6M. Gyökeres, 10M.

Gyokeres 10 but on another thread you're ridiculing people valuing Madisson at 50?
Are you an estate agent?

SlowerThanPlatt · Apr 3, 2022

SkyblueTexan said:
Watching the EFL Trophy final. Sutton have played fairly well and have some decent players. They actually taken the lead now. We might need to unearth some gems from the lower leagues considering our budget, especially if we want to hang on to our main assets.

96th min equaliser for Rotherham!

Grendel · Apr 3, 2022

Sky Blue Pete said:
Lovely Whataboutery yet again. No you’re right no one would be interested in any of our players. How would you improve the squad in the summer?

Loans with high interest or
Selling an asset and reinvesting some of that money!

Whataboutery yawn

if you really injected a truth drug (you’d probably need a needle the size of a rocket ship) and injected it into Seppalla and Fisher then they would have been unprepared and not expecting a championship promotion and weren’t prepared for it.

it’s far far easier to find a competitive wage spend and transfer fees at the levels below

We have sold a lot of players for large fees prior to last season.

Mccallum
Baylis
Thomas
Stevenson
Maddison
Chaplin

the fees attracted as they were to bigger clubs were much higher than we needed as replacements

Perfect example being Godden for Chaplin.

paid less than received no issue on wages an established player

Now we have to sell then try and buy for less pay less and expect to be competitive

It’s different - we’ve a poundshop set up which isn’t workable

sylus · Apr 3, 2022

clint van damme said:
Gyokeres 10 but on another thread you're ridiculing people valuing Madisson at 50?
Are you an estate agent?

Gyökeres more like 8-9.but up to 10,
massive difference between 10and 50

Grendel · Apr 3, 2022

Ccfcisparks said:
I seem to remember everyone being really excited when we signed Gus

people were excited when we signed Kevin Malaga

slowpoke · Apr 3, 2022

sylus said:
personnally my value of. oHare, 6-8 M HAMER. 5-6M. Gyökeres, 10M.

Who’s going to pay that sort of money for any of them ?

Grendel · Apr 3, 2022

slowpoke said:
Who’s going to pay that sort of money for any of them ?

they won’t have to Boddy will just cave in to an early bidder

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 3, 2022

Grendel said:
they won’t have to Boddy will just cave in to an early bidder

Unfortunately I can see this happening we rarely seem to get best value when we sell.

Sky Blue Pete · Apr 3, 2022

Grendel said:
Whataboutery yawn

if you really injected a truth drug (you’d probably need a needle the size of a rocket ship) and injected it into Seppalla and Fisher then they would have been unprepared and not expecting a championship promotion and weren’t prepared for it.

it’s far far easier to find a competitive wage spend and transfer fees at the levels below

We have sold a lot of players for large fees prior to last season.

Mccallum
Baylis
Thomas
Stevenson
Maddison
Chaplin

the fees attracted as they were to bigger clubs were much higher than we needed as replacements

Perfect example being Godden for Chaplin.

paid less than received no issue on wages an established player

Now we have to sell then try and buy for less pay less and expect to be competitive

It’s different - we’ve a poundshop set up which isn’t workable

Well how are we competing then? Only Maddison is a loss and possibly McCallum

Sky Blue Pete · Apr 3, 2022

Grendel said:
they won’t have to Boddy will just cave in to an early bidder

Thought you said it was nothing to do with him???

sylus · Apr 3, 2022

Grendel said:
they won’t have to Boddy will just cave in to an early bidder

exactly,
dangle a carrot in front of the club, and they fall for it every time.

Ccfcisparks · Apr 3, 2022

Grendel said:
people were excited when we signed Kevin Malaga

Struggling to make the link

clint van damme · Apr 3, 2022

sylus said:
Gyökeres more like 8-9.but up to 10,
massive difference between 10and 50

Yeah, because ones had a half decent season in the Championship and ones top end premiership player.

shmmeee · Apr 3, 2022

CCFCSteve said:
I think that’s where a likely big player sale will have to come in unfortunately

I just hope it’s a big enough sale to fund everything that’s required. I may be wrong but I can’t see the £10m figures being talked about as accurate and not sure £3-5m will be enough.

sylus · Apr 3, 2022

some of you's on here would flog your granny for a fiver, and then ask for change.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Apr 3, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
The Stoke job may be available

Rumoured to be keen on Mowbray as his contract is expiring this summer.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Apr 3, 2022

sylus said:
personnally my value of. oHare, 6-8 M HAMER. 5-6M. Gyökeres, 10M.

You're going to be bitterly disappointed this summer then.

sylus · Apr 3, 2022

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
You're going to be bitterly disappointed this summer then.

nah! your wrong, quite use to it now matey

KenilworthSkyBlue · Apr 3, 2022

sylus said:
nah! your wrong, quite use to it now matey

*you're
*used

mark82 · Apr 3, 2022

shmmeee said:
I just hope it’s a big enough sale to fund everything that’s required. I may be wrong but I can’t see the £10m figures being talked about as accurate and not sure £3-5m will be enough.

Not saying Gyökeres is as good, but Ollie Watkins went for 30 million. Neil Maupay was 20 million. Ollie McBurnie was 17 million. Benik Afobe 12 million (twice).

10 million should probably be what we're targeting. If it's too soon to get that then we should hold.

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