The need to respect everybody's point of view (1 Viewer)

Nick · Aug 15, 2014

ccfc92 said:
The only reason I mentioned democracy etc, is not everyone agrees on everything, so some one who voted Labour has every right to say "see, I was right" when Tories mess it up. Agreed? Same with every other scenario.

That's all I'm saying, if the majority or minority are proved wrong, the minority or majority have to hold their hands up and say that they were wrong.

Of course people will always differ, but that isnt what you said which is why I didn't agree. I agree with what you just said, which is why I now agree.

Nick · Aug 15, 2014

Sky Blue Kid said:
@ Nick....You are always defending SISU. When ever anyone (Especially me) have a gripe about SISU, Fisher, Septic, etc,etc. I don't think there is anyone on this forum who "Excuses" SISU more than You, Grenduffy, Torchy, canyouhearthedrums. and half a dozen more. It's pathetic the way you "Come to their aid" at every chance you get.

It depends on the gripe and how it is put across doesn't it? I have never said I approve of anything they have done and "back it". However when somebody says SISU are to blame for me going to the shop and buying my kids a chelsea shirt and a chelsea season ticket then I will say that that is rubbish.

ccfc92 · Aug 15, 2014

Nick said:
Of course people will always differ, but that isnt what you said

For someone clearly intelligent, you often miss very simple things. What did I say then?

ccfc92 · Aug 15, 2014

ccfc92 said:
For someone clearly intelligent, you often miss very simple things. What did I say then?

Didn't see your edit.

Nick · Aug 15, 2014

ccfc92 said:
For someone clearly intelligent, you often miss very simple things. What did I say then?

You said:

Surely as a democratic society, those in the minority follow the majority, and then if the majority are proved wrong, the minority can be smug about it?

To me that reads that as this country is democratic then you think that people in the minority should "follow" the majority and if it goes to shit at least they can say "i told you so". I am not sure how that translates to what it finally ended up as.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 15, 2014

So now we've sorted that we're all voting Labour?

Nick · Aug 15, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
So now we've sorted that we're all voting Labour?

Had a letter through off some smug MP begging for a vote, was ideal as I needed some paper to light a fire in the garden!

ccfc92 · Aug 16, 2014

Nick said:
You said:

To me that reads that as this country is democratic then you think that people in the minority should "follow" the majority and if it goes to shit at least they can say "i told you so". I am not sure how that translates to what it finally ended up as.

You obviously only read that part. Add on the bit at the end of that quote and it's clearly not that.

To be fair to you, maybe follow wasn't the best word. Have to go along with might be better. It's taken 3 or 4 pages but at least you got what I was saying in the end

Things are so much easier to explain in real conversation if you get what I mean

fernandopartridge · Aug 16, 2014

Sky Blue Kid said:
I told a little fib in that last post.........................It's my RIGHT hand not left.

There's a shock

#CarlBakerDay #ClivePlattWeek #JohnGayleMonth

Nick · Aug 16, 2014

ccfc92 said:
You obviously only read that part. Add on the bit at the end of that quote and it's clearly not that.

To be fair to you, maybe follow wasn't the best word. Have to go along with might be better. It's taken 3 or 4 pages but at least you got what I was saying in the end

Things are so much easier to explain in real conversation if you get what I mean

So just say "Why don't people who think the boycott won't work not go in as a test for one game, if it doesn't make a difference they can be smug". Simple and saves messing about doesnt it

ccfc92 · Aug 16, 2014

Nick said:
So just say "Why don't people who think the boycott won't work not go in as a test for one game, if it doesn't make a difference they can be smug". Simple and saves messing about doesnt it

I over explained it as I thought that would be too blunt

Sky Blue Kid · Aug 16, 2014

@ fernandopartridge............If you'd read my post right after that one, you'd have seen that I said..."I meant to say I made a mistake" It should have read RIGHT not left. Let's not let facts get in the way of your "Put Down" though eh pal?

mark82 · Aug 16, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
So now we've sorted that we're all voting Labour?

If Scotland bugger off it's unlikely Labour will win an election in the near future.

turlykerd · Aug 16, 2014

Sky Blue Kid said:
@ turlykerd.....I've holidayed quite a lot in Florida over the last 20 years, and up till now(Touch Wood) never been caught in one yet ....Seeing as you live in Florida, I'll give you a little clue where I'll be...Polo Trace Golf & CC. You must know where that is.

no idea mate... but north carolina is that bit of florida thats just out the way :sarcasm:

Hobo · Aug 16, 2014

Nick said:
Had a letter through off some smug MP begging for a vote, was ideal as I needed some paper to light a fire in the garden!

Would of had more respect if you had light the fire in the Houses of Parliament.

shmmeee · Aug 16, 2014

mark82 said:
If Scotland bugger off it's unlikely Labour will win an election in the near future.

Nonsense.

Scotland would've changed the result of either one or two elections since the war. That's a complete myth.

There's some analysis that suggest more hung parliaments, but to be hoenst no one really knows how the multi party future will pan out. Chances are with Lib Dems and UKIP we won't see another large majority government anyway.

On topic: as usual I think Nick's missing the point on the minority/majority thing.

We're looking for collective action. This is closer to a war than a general election. People talk about the majority simply because if we're ALL going to do something, it's easier to change the smaller number of people's actions than the larger numbers.

It's nothing to do with "the majority is always right" or whatever other strawman keeps being used.

Nick · Aug 16, 2014

Hobo said:
Would of had more respect if you had light the fire in the Houses of Parliament.

Couldn't have taken the old fence or tree down

Nick · Aug 16, 2014

shmmeee said:
Nonsense.

Scotland would've changed the result of either one or two elections since the war. That's a complete myth.

On topic: as usual I think Nick's missing the point on the minority/majority thing.

We're looking for collective action. This is closer to a war than a general election. People talk about the majority simply because if we're ALL going to do something, it's easier to change the smaller number of people's actions than the larger numbers.

It's nothing to do with "the majority is always right" or whatever other strawman keeps being used.

I'm not missing the point, I'm going by what people say. Of course it makes sense to try and change the smaller number, don't just demand it.

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