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The Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink Thread! (1 Viewer)

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Chipfat

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #141
torchomatic said:
Amazing that everyone on here knows how much we'll pay a new manager.
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It's not amazing Torch, as some have already alluded to in past post TM was only on 1600 a week with the max earner on 2.

It's also not amazing to of predicted this exact situation we have now. It's not so much about wages it's about why anyone would think taking this job is worth it Regards all aspects of the club.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #142
Chipfat said:
It's not amazing Torch, as some have already alluded to in past post TM was only on 1600 a week with the max earner on 2.

It's also not amazing to of predicted this exact situstion also. It's not so much about wages it's about why anyone would think taking this job is worth it Regards all aspects of the club.
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Ah "alluded", when that's OK then. Must be true.
 

Brylowes

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #143
matesx said:
why the hell would he come here?!

"so... will i have a budget in January to strengthen this shite team?"

"no... and you will sell Stevenson to help fund your £500 per week wages"
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What's he like with a Trowel and Plumb Line,
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #144
rupert_bear said:
Who is the right man ? We've just had an expert manager in Tony Mowbray who couldn't arrest one of the most alarming slumps I've witnessed, his right hand man for years failing miserably, we had the up and coming whipper snapper in Steve Pressley, after a bright start petered out desperately, the all too brief reign of loyal Mark Robins, going back Iain Dowie, popular choice, successful at other clubs dismal here and then there was Andy Thorne. So I'd give anyone brave enough to take on the biggest poison chalice in professional football. One thing I will say about Hasselbank is he is Dutch and knowing how the Dutch can be I doubt he would take much shite from Fisher and co.
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Do you mean the expert manager who has a history of slumps?

We need an experienced old school league 1 manager, if it's big man little man up front and kick the shit out of them for a 1-0 then so be it.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #145
rupert_bear said:
Who is the right man ? We've just had an expert manager in Tony Mowbray who couldn't arrest one of the most alarming slumps I've witnessed, his right hand man for years failing miserably, we had the up and coming whipper snapper in Steve Pressley, after a bright start petered out desperately, the all too brief reign of loyal Mark Robins, going back Iain Dowie, popular choice, successful at other clubs dismal here and then there was Andy Thorne. So I'd give anyone brave enough to take on the biggest poison chalice in professional football a proper chance and support. One thing I will say about Hasselbank is he is Dutch and knowing how the Dutch can be I doubt he would take much shite from Fisher and co.
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standupforcity

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #146
CovisGod said:
Which is looking increasingly likely, he's talking to the club and betting has been suspended...

IF he comes in, are we going to give him a chance ? A lot of folks on Facebook seem to want him to fail before he's even started just so SISU fuck off quicker.

We can't want a new manager of our club to fail, surely ?
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What betting where?
 

IrishSkyBlue

Facebook User
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #147
Wheelfass said:
He's turned it down.
http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/coventry-city-suffer-major-blow-in-search-for-new-manager/
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if we cant even attract a barely good manager what hope do they have really shows what state club is in, maybe he was told what funds were available ect and walked away would you blame him!
 

matesx

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #148
£3k a weeek
tiny budget for Jan
sell anybody for a fee

"erm no thanks"
 

steve82

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #149
rupert_bear said:
Who is the right man ? We've just had an expert manager in Tony Mowbray who couldn't arrest one of the most alarming slumps I've witnessed, his right hand man for years failing miserably, we had the up and coming whipper snapper in Steve Pressley, after a bright start petered out desperately, the all too brief reign of loyal Mark Robins, going back Iain Dowie, popular choice, successful at other clubs dismal here and then there was Andy Thorne. So I'd give anyone brave enough to take on the biggest poison chalice in professional football. One thing I will say about Hasselbank is he is Dutch and knowing how the Dutch can be I doubt he would take much shite from Fisher and co.
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It's simple... Russel Slade.
Saved every club he's been to. And if/when it all goes wrong, at least we survived that season.
Tho the man knows a free transfer when he see's one!
I honestly believe Russel slade would have us competitive in this league in no time. Survival this season, competitive next. He no's the level inside out and would not be like TM and waste time waiting for a unrealistic target to turn on his word.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #150
Nick said:
Do you mean the expert manager who has a history of slumps?

We need an experienced old school league 1 manager, if it's big man little man up front and kick the shit out of them for a 1-0 then so be it.
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But what is an experienced manager ? Is Hasselbank, young but with moderate success under his belt and yes a fail st QPR. I'm not advocating JFH for the job by the way but as said what is experience? The bottom line is whoever we get needs the proper backing and support from our owners.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #151
steve82 said:
It's simple... Russel Slade.
Saved every club he's been to. And if/when it all goes wrong, at least we survived that season.
Tho the man knows a free transfer when he see's one!
I honestly believe Russel slade would have us competitive in this league in no time. Survival this season, competitive next. He no's the level inside out and would not be like TM and waste time waiting for a unrealistic target to turn on his word.[/QUOTE. I don't disagree but I remember a similar clamour for the "experienced" Mickey Adams, fans choice I believe Mike McGinnity said.
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harvey098

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #152
Nick said:
We need an experienced old school league 1 manager, if it's big man little man up front and kick the shit out of them for a 1-0 then so be it.
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Is that you Aidy?
 
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Pezza

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #153
He said no.
Just been announced on SSN....
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #154
rupert_bear said:
But what is an experienced manager ? Is Hasselbank, young but with moderate success under his belt and yes a fail st QPR. I'm not advocating JFH for the job by the way but as said what is experience? The bottom line is whoever we get needs the proper backing and support from our owners.
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Experience is somebody from the lower leagues who can work without being about to buy players, they have links with lower league teams and contacts there.

We aren't in the Premier League, so all we get is Micky Quinn who talks about the premier league day in day out saying "they dont even buy players" when it's the same for how many clubs in League 1? People get so focused on big names, status and budgets but don't notice when the manager signs 2 left wingers (one for a fee, the other will demand a decent wage) and plays a striker there instead. It is about making the most of the budget, knowing your system and making it suit the players available.

We need to play to our advantages, watching AFC Wimbledon they had 2 lumps up front and played to their strengths. They didn't put the lumps up front and expect them to be like Messi with the ball at their feet.
 
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matesx

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #155
bugger
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #156
Pezza said:
He said no.
Just been announced on SSN....
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Ahh fuck him....his loss.

Next.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #157
Ricketts is still around the club isn't he. Wouldn't bet against us ending up with him.
 

steve82

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #158
Nick said:
Experience is somebody from the lower leagues who can work without being about to buy players, they have links with lower league teams and contacts there.

We aren't in the Premier League, so all we get is Micky Quinn who talks about the premier league day in day out saying "they dont even buy players" when it's the same for how many clubs in League 1? People get so focused on big names, status and budgets but don't notice when the manager signs 2 left wingers (one for a fee, the other will demand a decent wage) and plays a striker there instead. It is about making the most of the budget, knowing your system and making it suit the players available.

We need to play to our advantages, watching AFC Wimbledon they had 2 lumps up front and played to their strengths. They didn't put the lumps up front and expect them to be like Messi with the ball at their feet.
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Big man little man combo does the trick for me. No one else think that sordell will thrive off a brute of a target man. A Alex Revel, Tom Pope type.
I'll take ugly route one football for the rest of the season if it means a chance of survival. No point in "playing" football and not getting anything from a game. Goals win games
And it works at this level
 
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standupforcity

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #159
With the club in it's present state who would want to manage it and who would want to come here as a player in January?? NO ONE!!!
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #160
steve82 said:
Big man little man combo does the trick for me. No one else think that sordell will thrive off a brute of a target man. A Alex Revel, Tom Pope type.
I'll take ugly route one football for the rest of the season if it means a chance of survival. No point in "playing" football and not getting anything from a game. Goals win games
And it works at this level
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That's the thing, it's about getting the best system for the players you have.

Why bother signing Reid and Jones and then not player wingers, why sign 6 or 7 strikers and play 1 up front?

The discussion about the actual football side will get missed
 
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ecky

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #161
The club is a basket case
Flloyd knows the writings on the wall
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #162
Pezza said:
He said no.
Just been announced on SSN....
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The ambitious fool.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #163
chiefdave said:
Ricketts is still around the club isn't he. Wouldn't bet against us ending up with him.
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I think he's left the club completely.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #164
Skybluefaz said:
I think he's left the club completely.
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I "think" he was at a school the other day. Sure it was him.
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #165
Since SISU's tenure, which managers C.V haven't they fucked up?
 
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Chipfat

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #166
torchomatic said:
Ah "alluded", when that's OK then. Must be true.
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Ok Torch what do you think TM was on? and what do you think they are willing to pay a new idiot!!. I know what is was, i'm not guessing..

Lastly we are not an attractive club anymore, managers out there talk to each other as do agents and will be looking at risk worth reward personally and professionally and Sisu are not worth the risk on either count. You can keep blaming past owners about our current state. I posted months ago Venus will end in disaster not only on the green stuff, but our owners will panic and try to sell fans that they are forward thinking and looking to turn the ship round, when we all know its doesn't matter who is steers the ship the captain is always in control of the direction it takes.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #167
FWIW, not convinced he was the right choice anyway.
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #168
Chipfat said:
Ok Torch what do you think TM was on? and what do you think they are willing to pay a new idiot!!. I know what is was, i'm not guessing..

Lastly we are not an attractive club anymore, managers out there talk and will be looking at risk worth reward personally and professionally and Sisu are not worth the risk on either count. You can keep blaming past owners about our current state. I posted months ago Venus will end in disaster not only on the green stuff, but our owners will panic and try to sell fans that they are forward thinking and looking to turn the ship round, when we all know its doesn't matter who is steers the ship the captain is always in control of the direction it takes.
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I don't know what he was on and I doubt you do either, but if you say you do then fair enough.
 

torchomatic

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #169
Deleted member 5849 said:
FWIW, not convinced he was the right choice anyway.
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Tend to agree. I think he's a little too flash. I'd rather have Cotterill or someone similar. Still, it would have been nice to have someone rather than Venus in the dugout.
 

skybluejelly

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #170
Pezza said:
He said no.
Just been announced on SSN....
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i don't think he said no ...probably more like "you have got to be bloody joking"
 

matesx

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #171
"im fed up... not hard up"
 

Paxman II

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #172
I'm not sure about JFH. On one hand the sort of personality that will put the fear of god into some of our poorly performing players. He's the sort of guy who won't accept fools lightly. On the other hand not sure he has the temperament or experience to cope with a club in our position.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #173
I reckon he would have been a breath of fresh air but thankfully for him at least he realised the dangers before he put his foot on the mine !
SISU OUT It's the only thing that matters !!
 

Paxman II

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #174
Where is Denis Wise these days?
 
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ceetee

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  • Dec 13, 2016
  • #175
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Skybluefaz said:
I think he's left the club completely.
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I''m sure on Saturday someone said he was still an influence in the dressing room.
 
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