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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (11 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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skybluetony176

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  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,976
In other news apparently it was known in December that Seabourne didn’t meet the criteria to be considered for the the contract it was awarded yet Chris Grayling gave it to them anyway.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,977
skybluetony176 said:
Good news. Toblerone is back on the menu UK signs trade deal with Switzerland at least temporarily anyway.
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Which says it all...just gagging for negatives arent you?

Belittle & disparage anything other than remain won't you?

A model of positivity & patriotism...or I supoose that is how you and a few other deluded, delerious & demented members on here see yourselves.

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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,978
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,979
SkyblueBazza said:
Which says it all...just gagging for negatives arent you?

Belittle & disparage anything other than remain won't you?

A model of positivity & patriotism...or I supoose that is how you and a few other deluded, delerious & demented members on here see yourselves.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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Brexit has nothing to do with patriotism whatsoever
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,980
Sick Boy said:
Brexit has nothing to do with patriotism whatsoever
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No, because Brexit just means Brexit mate.

If you want to argue, tell it to my Bulldog (it's not a real one it's a tattoo on my calf)
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,981
SkyblueBazza said:
Which says it all...just gagging for negatives arent you?

Belittle & disparage anything other than remain won't you?

A model of positivity & patriotism...or I supoose that is how you and a few other deluded, delerious & demented members on here see yourselves.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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I’m very patriotic thank you. I only buy Cadbury’s for that very reason.

How’s Liam “it will be the easiest trade deal in history” Fox getting on with rolling the 40 trade deals on before we leave? Failing miserably isn’t he?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,982
Sick Boy said:
Brexit has nothing to do with patriotism whatsoever
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Everyone I know who voted leave drives a German car so clearly not.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,983
skybluetony176 said:
Everyone I know who voted leave drives a German car so clearly not.
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That's just because they are gangster.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,984
Nick said:
That's just because they are gangster.
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They’re all company car drivers so get a new car every three years. Every time made in Germany and then trot shit out like Bazza about being unpatriotic if you voted remain.
 

chiefdave

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  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,985
SkyblueBazza said:
Which says it all...just gagging for negatives arent you?
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Is a deal being done not good news?

Admittedly the fact we're now attempting to get deals on the same terms we had as a member of the EU is not perhaps the biggest selling point for Brexit but a deal is a deal.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,986
skybluetony176 said:
They’re all company car drivers so get a new car every three years. Every time made in Germany and then trot shit out like Bazza about being unpatriotic if you voted remain.
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Not proper g's then. Pretend.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,987
Nick said:
Not proper g's then. Pretend.
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One used to think he was an OG
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,988
skybluetony176 said:
I’m very patriotic thank you. I only buy Cadbury’s for that very reason.

How’s Liam “it will be the easiest trade deal in history” Fox getting on with rolling the 40 trade deals on before we leave? Failing miserably isn’t he?
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Exactly as you see yourself then? And you seriously buy US-owned branded chocolate as a form of patriotism do you? Maybe you should spend more time thinking your purchases through?

I would have thought that you, being so apparently terrified of the potential negative consequences associated with Brexit, would have found some mild relief in even the remotest suggestion of a positive...but no - you mock & pour derision upon it instead!

Liam Fox - I don't know how he is actually getting. Maybe he is storing them up for a big-bang on 30th March? He doesn't keep me informed.

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,989
skybluetony176 said:
They’re all company car drivers so get a new car every three years. Every time made in Germany and then trot shit out like Bazza about being unpatriotic if you voted remain.
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Did I say people who voted remain were unpatriotic? Would I really say that about myself? Idiot

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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,990
SkyblueBazza said:
Exactly as you see yourself then? And you seriously buy US-owned branded chocolate as a form of patriotism do you? Maybe you should spend more time thinking your purchases through?

I would have thought that you, being so apparently terrified of the potential negative consequences associated with Brexit, would have found some mild relief in even the remotest suggestion of a positive...but no - you mock & pour derision upon it instead!

Liam Fox - I don't know how he is actually getting. Maybe he is storing them up for a big-bang on 30th March? He doesn't keep me informed.

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No. I see buying products made in the U.K. supporting British jobs as patriotic. Sorry if the concept is above your head. Getting very close to stopping buying Dyson products because leave campaigner Dyson is migrating his business and jobs out the U.K. more and more with each passing year. Maybe you should be questioning his patriotic credentials instead of mine.

The Swiss deal isn’t any better than what we enjoy and is only temporary.

He doesn’t keep me informed either. He or rather his department of already admitted that they won’t have them all done in time. Maybe we should extend Article 50 so he can get them done.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 11, 2019
  • #30,991
I prefer galaxy to cadburys. Am I a remainer?
My Dyson broke so I bought a Henry.
 
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Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #30,992
Nick said:
I prefer galaxy to cadburys. Am I a remainer?
My Dyson broke so I bought a Henry.
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When crunch comes to crunch though and we do actually leave, you're still going to have to suck it up.

 
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Astute

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #30,993
Nick said:
I prefer galaxy to cadburys. Am I a remainer?
My Dyson broke so I bought a Henry.
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Not a surprise as your head always seems to be in the clouds.
 

dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #30,994
Nick said:
I prefer galaxy to cadburys.
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I do too Nick. The history of Mars (who make Galaxy) is extremely convoluted. (There's a YouTube video about it somewhere).

*Mars is actually a family name and not just a planet.

Even more useless piece of information: the "Milky Way" bar sold in the US bears no similarity to the one sold in europe and the 'Cadbury's Dairy Milk' sold in the USA is just a rebranded 'Hershey Bar'.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #30,995
The biggest question is how many Dyson products can one person buy to show patriotism?

Does Tony own 17 vacuum cleaners?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #30,996
dutchman said:
I do too Nick. The history of Mars (who make Galaxy) is extremely convoluted. (There's a YouTube video about it somewhere).

*Mars is actually a family name and not just a planet.

Even more useless piece of information: the "Milky Way" bar sold in the US bears no similarity to the one sold in europe and the 'Cadbury's Dairy Milk' sold in the USA is just a rebranded 'Hershey Bar'.
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So to confirm, nazi?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #30,997
Astute said:
Not a surprise as your head always seems to be in the clouds.
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At least you accept now that I'm above you
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #30,998
Deleted member 5849 said:
The biggest question is how many Dyson products can one person buy to show patriotism?

Does Tony own 17 vacuum cleaners?
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One for every room

Like me buying 100 pairs of nikes to burn to show politics
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #30,999
Deleted member 5849 said:
The biggest question is how many Dyson products can one person buy to show patriotism?

Does Tony own 17 vacuum cleaners?
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One for each wing of the house

Being serious though I’ve brought Dysons almost since they originally came out in an attempt of loyalty to a British brand and support British jobs. I think I’m on number 3, maybe 4. When this one bites the dust (no pun intended) I was going to buy the cordless but I think I’ll get a G tech instead.

As a consumer I always try to buy to support British jobs and British brands if at all possible. If I had a choice of my next passport being red and made in the U.K. supporting British jobs or blue and made in the EU supporting non British jobs I would do the patriotic thing and have the red one. Some people’s ideas of patriotism are very twisted.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #31,000
Yep and to use local tradesman
 
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martcov

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #31,001
SkyblueBazza said:
Which says it all...just gagging for negatives arent you?

Belittle & disparage anything other than remain won't you?

A model of positivity & patriotism...or I supoose that is how you and a few other deluded, delerious & demented members on here see yourselves.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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Ok. Give a list of the roll over trade deals that come into effect on Brexit day. 40 were promised by the patriots who caused this mess.

Pointing out that we and our countrymen were lied to is patriotism.
 
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martcov

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #31,002
SkyblueBazza said:
Did I say people who voted remain were unpatriotic? Would I really say that about myself? Idiot

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No, but you did say:

„A model of positivity & patriotism...or I supoose that is how you and a few other deluded, delerious &demented members on heresee yourselves.“

Were you referring to „remain“ posters or to „leave“ posters?

And Fox has got deals with Chile and the Faroes and a temporary one with Switzerland. I make that 3 and not 40.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #31,003
martcov said:
No, but you did say:

„A model of positivity & patriotism...or I supoose that is how you and a few other deluded, delerious &demented members on heresee yourselves.“

Were you referring to „remain“ posters or to „leave“ posters?

And Fox has got deals with Chile and the Faroes and a temporary one with Switzerland. I make that 3 and not 40.
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I think he has something tied up (in principle at least) with Australia and New Zealand, although I thought we had to leave to get better deals with these two countries. Seems we’ve quietly lowered the bar to mean the same.

Besides it’s not his fault for promoting leave causing us to be in a position where he can’t do what he said he could do. He’s already blaming everyone else saying that they’re dragging their feet. Seems everyone else is going to be the boogie man when we leave. Although I fully expect those who promoted and voted leave to be still blaming the EU in a decade when the utopian Brexit promised hasn’t been delivered.
 

Astute

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #31,004
martcov said:
Ok. Give a list of the roll over trade deals that come into effect on Brexit day. 40 were promised by the patriots who caused this mess.

Pointing out that we and our countrymen were lied to is patriotism.
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You have a way with words. A way of changing history.

The only people happy with the way the EU is run is those running the EU. Anti EU or whatever you want to call it sentiment is growing throughout the EU countries. It was growing in the UK. Cameron offered the referendum to get back votes lost to UKIP.

So the choice is yours. Was it Cameron that caused it or is it those who run the E..... think I know your reply already.

If it was run to benefit the countries and people of the EU there wouldn't be anti EU sentiment growing throughout the EU. But you will have forgotten about even the links you brought up yesterday that shows how corrupt the EU system is. You will say we have a big say in the EU. You will say they keep to all rules and regulations. And you will try to blame those not at fault for this shitfest starting.
 
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martcov

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #31,005
Astute said:
You have a way with words. A way of changing history.

The only people happy with the way the EU is run is those running the EU. Anti EU or whatever you want to call it sentiment is growing throughout the EU countries. It was growing in the UK. Cameron offered the referendum to get back votes lost to UKIP.

So the choice is yours. Was it Cameron that caused it or is it those who run the E..... think I know your reply already.

If it was run to benefit the countries and people of the EU there wouldn't be anti EU sentiment growing throughout the EU. But you will have forgotten about even the links you brought up yesterday that shows how corrupt the EU system is. You will say we have a big say in the EU. You will say they keep to all rules and regulations. And you will try to blame those not at fault for this shitfest starting.
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The EU are not at fault for Cameron‘s actions.
 
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martcov

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #31,006
skybluetony176 said:
I think he has something tied up (in principle at least) with Australia and New Zealand, although I thought we had to leave to get better deals with these two countries. Seems we’ve quietly lowered the bar to mean the same.

Besides it’s not his fault for promoting leave causing us to be in a position where he can’t do what he said he could do. He’s already blaming everyone else saying that they’re dragging their feet. Seems everyone else is going to be the boogie man when we leave. Although I fully expect those who promoted and voted leave to be still blaming the EU in a decade when the utopian Brexit promised hasn’t been delivered.
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Australia has already said they won’t do a UK deal until they have got their EU deal. EU being more important.
 
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martcov

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #31,007
Astute said:
You have a way with words. A way of changing history.

The only people happy with the way the EU is run is those running the EU. Anti EU or whatever you want to call it sentiment is growing throughout the EU countries. It was growing in the UK. Cameron offered the referendum to get back votes lost to UKIP.

So the choice is yours. Was it Cameron that caused it or is it those who run the E..... think I know your reply already.

If it was run to benefit the countries and people of the EU there wouldn't be anti EU sentiment growing throughout the EU. But you will have forgotten about even the links you brought up yesterday that shows how corrupt the EU system is. You will say we have a big say in the EU. You will say they keep to all rules and regulations. And you will try to blame those not at fault for this shitfest starting.
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The EU, like the UK government, is run for the benefit of the people. There will always be critics and there will always be things that are wrong or should be reformed. That is the nature of things. Thank god there are people with better ideas who make their voices heard. Leaving solves nothing.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #31,008
Astute said:
You have a way with words. A way of changing history.

The only people happy with the way the EU is run is those running the EU. Anti EU or whatever you want to call it sentiment is growing throughout the EU countries. It was growing in the UK. Cameron offered the referendum to get back votes lost to UKIP.

So the choice is yours. Was it Cameron that caused it or is it those who run the E..... think I know your reply already.

If it was run to benefit the countries and people of the EU there wouldn't be anti EU sentiment growing throughout the EU. But you will have forgotten about even the links you brought up yesterday that shows how corrupt the EU system is. You will say we have a big say in the EU. You will say they keep to all rules and regulations. And you will try to blame those not at fault for this shitfest starting.
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...and a link I think you posted claiming & explaining how we were lied to & information hidden from the public from long ago suggests that even patriotism has been muddied.

Was it patriotic to hide the real intent/vision for Europe? One where sovereign power would be whittled away over generations? Or did it allow us a period of relative prosperity that we would perhaps have missed out on by opting out at the time?

All pretty much as uncertain then as it is now really.

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skybluetony176

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #31,009
SkyblueBazza said:
...and a link I think you posted claiming & explaining how we were lied to & information hidden from the public from long ago suggests that even patriotism has been muddied.

Was it patriotic to hide the real intent/vision for Europe? One where sovereign power would be whittled away over generations? Or did it allow us a period of relative prosperity that we would perhaps have missed out on by opting out at the time?

All pretty much as uncertain then as it is now really.

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The Single European Act 1986, Maastricht Treaty 1992, Treaty of Amsterdam 1999, Treaty of Nice 2003 and the Lisbon Treaty 2009 were all signed in plain site by sovereign British majority governments voted in with a manifesto of getting closer ties to the EU. Nothing was hidden. It just seemed to have passed you by.
 
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martcov

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  • Feb 12, 2019
  • #31,010
skybluetony176 said:
The Single European Act 1986, Maastricht Treaty 1992, Treaty of Amsterdam 1999, Treaty of Nice 2003 and the Lisbon Treaty 2009 were all signed in plain site by sovereign British majority governments voted in with a manifesto of getting closer ties to the EU. Nothing was hidden. It just seemed to have passed you by.
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As does Liam Fox‘s failure to provide 40 trade deals to come into effect on leaving the EU.
 
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