Captain Dart
Well-Known Member
Sky ran a poll, it was a 2 horse race, the question being who is better able to deliver Brexit, May or Corbyn.
Corbyn came third after the don't knows.
And that really is the thing. When you look at the likely candidates voting labour and JC is a lot more palatable.
fox hunting?
Corbyn. What a pathetic ditherer he has shown himself to be in the last couple of weeks. The government close to collapse and an opportunity to win over the DUP. Yet still he doesn’t call for a VOC in the government. The last 10 days were his best chance to force a GE. A slim one admittedly but his best chance. Now there could well be a new PM whose first objective will be to win back the DUP support.
May is awful but this clown is even worse.
Hardly indemic and illegal
Bingo!! Try and deflect onto Corbyn.
Whatever you think of him this is nothing to do with him or Labour or the Lib dems or Tony Blair or Nick Clegg this is all down to the tories and the people who voted for them.
Some of us warned where the infighting by a bunch of incompetents would lead us over a year ago.
Man up and take some responsibility for your actions!! I can assure you if Corbyn becomes PM and fucks it up I'll hold my hands up and say I got it wrong.
Bingo!! Try and deflect onto Corbyn.
Whatever you think of him this is nothing to do with him or Labour or the Lib dems or Tony Blair or Nick Clegg this is all down to the tories and the people who voted for them.
Some of us warned where the infighting by a bunch of incompetents would lead us over a year ago.
Man up and take some responsibility for your actions!! I can assure you if Corbyn becomes PM and fucks it up I'll hold my hands up and say I got it wrong.
Do you see it as good or bad news?
But it’s not endemic in the culture of our society - there is a big big difference
Bingo!! Try and deflect onto Corbyn.
Whatever you think of him this is nothing to do with him or Labour or the Lib dems or Tony Blair or Nick Clegg this is all down to the tories and the people who voted for them.
Some of us warned where the infighting by a bunch of incompetents would lead us over a year ago.
Man up and take some responsibility for your actions!! I can assure you if Corbyn becomes PM and fucks it up I'll hold my hands up and say I got it wrong.
Corbyn. What a pathetic ditherer he has shown himself to be in the last couple of weeks. The government close to collapse and an opportunity to win over the DUP. Yet still he doesn’t call for a VOC in the government. The last 10 days were his best chance to force a GE. A slim one admittedly but his best chance. Now there could well be a new PM whose first objective will be to win back the DUP support.
May is awful but this clown is even worse.
If May goes it'll be bad news for the EU.
Even the current PM is all for it PM: I'm in favour of fox hunting
I thought we were all in it together?This is the fear!
I do think if they depose May, we might see a split however.
Cameron's plan of unifying his party isn't exactly working...
Still not endemic - you try too hard to defend Europe against some obvious issues many of the southern state cultures have
It might get on some shelves but no one has to buy it do they ?I can’t see it being on the shelves across Europe anytime soon, especially Italy. Enjoy.
It might get on some shelves but no one has to buy it do they ?
I thought we were all in it together?
Yeah, I think she will win too.May will win the no confidence tonight but I can still see her resigning because of it.
It is still part of British culture and even the current PM supports it, you're just in denial.
To try and make a political point out against the EU with animal cruelty is bizarre, and plenty of abuse goes on here, and that's not even considering hunting:
Shearers secretly filmed punching, throwing and stamping on sheep could face criminal charges
Undercover video footage shows cattle being beaten at Devon slaughterhouse
I'm not defending those who abuse animals, I find it abhorrent and it genuinely upsets me.
It’s not bizarre because you constantly try and imply the European people are too moral too eat imported chicken which is just an outright lie as is the claim the EU reject it on health grounds.
Even Spaniards themselves acknowledge children are educated to be cruel to animals
'We're a violent nation' – director tackles Spain's festival culture of animal cruelty
Given the Eu now has hell holes like Romania its getting worse
Sorry you just sound silly
So, those lining up to take over as PM..................Really don't think any of them do it for me ?! Could Hammond resign as chancellor and run for PM ?! Not ideal but can approach things with one eye on the money, so to speak ?!
So, those lining up to take over as PM..................Really don't think any of them do it for me ?! Could Hammond resign as chancellor and run for PM ?! Not ideal but can approach things with one eye on the money, so to speak ?!
It wouldn't surprise me for May to cling on
So, those lining up to take over as PM..................Really don't think any of them do it for me ?! Could Hammond resign as chancellor and run for PM ?! Not ideal but can approach things with one eye on the money, so to speak ?!
I have and local leaders. It’s so easy to snipe from the sidelines and do fuck all to make things better ourselves. Anyone willing to put themselves out there deserve a level of thanks. It’s the millionaires club for the millionaires that I find so unpalatable. May talks about Britain for all where no place or person is left behind. Where the fuck has she been looking as her government have decimated communities and ensured poverty levels increase at an unprecedented level and still tories 5 points up in the poles.Unfortunately, I have little confidence in any politician these days.
What happens if she clings on but her deal gets booted out? No deal inevitable which I think it is anyway.
Or they postpone leaving while they either:IMO as it stands, whether May survives or is replaced, a no deal Brexit seems pretty likely.
Amber Rudd should have been sacked for what she did to our Caribbean community how can she become leader less than a few months afterI’d like to see a Brexit candidate get the nod. Why? For too long they’ve had the privilege of making claim after claim to the public without any accountability. They won a referendum making claims they weren’t even committed too (see Farage’s comments after the result on the £350m NHS). Without being in government, they can sit in the back benches criticising any deal without accountability. It’s about time they took responsibility for the mess they created by lying to the public.
Failing a Brexiteer, Amber Rudd would be a good option as she’s a proponent of a second referendum. If the British public is really committed to Brexit, it will vote Leave a second time. The data suggests otherwise at this moment and Remain would win a second referendum — that’s why Brexiteers don’t want a rerun.
Theresa May messed up big time trying to wipe Labour off the electoral map when they already had a comfortable majority. That’s where her problems really began. MPs with safe seats now feel threatened and so, weakening the PMs position in parliament two-fold; the ability to get a Brexit deal through and her leadership abilities questioned. She was a good initial candidate, but because she wasn’t a Brexiteer, her credibility in delivering Brexit was going to be questioned down the line. Her deal doesn’t seem that bad, something that is akin to a Norwegian-style relationship (a relationship that is flawed, and full-EU membership better anyway), which Brexiteers like Farage admired in the past.
The Government is in an untenable position and will either have to seek a renewed mandate, and/or ask the British public to reconsider their vote on Brexit. Predictably, this Brexit process has been a shambles of epic proportions.
One missing, she wins the vote and gets genuine movement the Eu. Is it really just Northern Ireland that’s the issue?Or they postpone leaving while they either:
Confirm a leader who swans off with a no deal Brexit (unlikely. Could imagine the leader getting in, but surely the divisions in the Conservative Party would see that government fall immediately?)
Confirm a leader who renegotiates (Entirely possible)
Confirm May and the present deal (First part likely, second part not)
Confirm May, vote down the deal, go to the country. I'd reckon this is the most likely scenario as it stands but, frankly... who knows!
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