Tactically - Lampard is pretty good (2 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Lots of people have said that. I’ve been pretty whelmed with him. The view from that Brentford fan seems spot on from what I’ve seen so far. He’s made two or three good tackles, a nice dive to break up play last night, been an absolute bomb scare on the ball. But he’s starting and it’s working so I won’t complain too hard.

Really? I can't say I agree. Two of his first three games have been against two of the strongest midfields in the division and to me he hasn't looked out of place.

 

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[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Can we afford rest him at home to Stoke? I kind of feel like we can. There are good options.

I'd be more inclined to risk him if it was an away game. But given we tend to keep our shape much better at home I'd be fine if it was decided he needed a break.

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

Didn't their defender get there before Wright? If so I doubt it counts, he'd have to actually have the effort for it to count I think.

If so that's one of the fallbacks in over relying on xG as an indicator I guess, as football being the game it is means it can never be an exact science. Wright was in front of their defender as the ball was played to him, and shouldn't really have given him the chance to get there first, even if the defender does deserve some credit.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If so that's one of the fallbacks in over relying on xG as an indicator I guess, as football being the game it is means it can never be an exact science. Wright was in front of their defender as the ball was played to him, and shouldn't really have given him the chance to get there first, even if the defender does deserve some credit.

Of course, xG is just a tool and no tool is going to perfectly mathematically describe how a game went. I generally find it far more useful as a diagnostic than possession though, which is still usually the first stat you see after the scoreline.

 

[TomRad85]

If so that's one of the fallbacks in over relying on xG as an indicator I guess, as football being the game it is means it can never be an exact science. Wright was in front of their defender as the ball was played to him, and shouldn't really have given him the chance to get there first, even if the defender does deserve some credit.

Well yes I think most accept for a one off game its not necessarily a useful stat as it doesn't take certain things into consideration, but over a period of time its very useful as its gives a good idea of if your team are creating or not.

 

[robbiekeane]

Lots of people have said that. I’ve been pretty whelmed with him. The view from that Brentford fan seems spot on from what I’ve seen so far. He’s made two or three good tackles, a nice dive to break up play last night, been an absolute bomb scare on the ball. But he’s starting and it’s working so I won’t complain too hard.

 

[robbiekeane]

Well yes I think most accept for a one off game its not necessarily a useful stat as it doesn't take certain things into consideration, but over a period of time its very useful as its gives a good idea of it your team are creating or not.

give up mate, the people who don’t understand averages will start rage frothing

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

give up mate, the people who don’t understand averages will start rage frothing

Jesus wept! I thought my post was a reasoned one, and not particularly critical of xG, but rather a comment on it regarding last night's match, but each to their own

Incidentally I agree with Brighton Sky Blue's comment that it is a more reliable indicator than possession stats, but ultimately the only stat that counts is goals scored. Everything else is just varying degrees of noise!

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Time to dig out the "England's number 1" song

The Sky Blue Army already sing it. They were singing it at Sheffield last night.

 

[robbiekeane]

Jesus wept! I thought my post was a reasoned one, and not particularly critical of xG, but rather a comment on it regarding last night's match, but each to their own

Incidentally I agree with Brighton Sky Blue's comment that it is a more reliable indicator than possession stats, but ultimately the only stat that counts is goals scored. Everything else is just varying degrees of noise!

not you necessarily man

 

[Evo1883]

I panicked i admit it , lampard has come throigh that patch and actually weve still taken 37 points from the last 20 and 22 from the last 10 .

Il say it again , tactically hes got something and im now at the point where we must keep him at all costs even if we fall away now which i dont think will happen

I think i finally love frank lampard

PUSB

 

[Para1140]

Given the red i think he got the tactics and subs spot on. Bidwell was solid today and when ftt came on we got control back to see out the game. Simms did well

 

[SBT]

Think he deserves most of the credit for the turnaround tbh. For all the fuss about new signings in January, the team that’s on a hot streak right now is mostly the same set of players we had at the end of August.

 

[Evo1883]

Think he deserves most of the credit for the turnaround tbh. For all the fuss about new signings in January, the team that’s on a hot streak right now is mostly the same set of players we had at the end of August.

This is the 3rd hot streak in 65 games .. he seems to find a way

 

[lord_garrincha]

Given the red i think he got the tactics and subs spot on. Bidwell was solid today and when ftt came on we got control back to see out the game. Simms did well

Simple instructions of defending deep & in numbers will have helped Bidwell... but he still had to do it.

 

[SKYBLUES90]

Was a serial winner as a player, its no surprise he’s got us to where we are now.

As Doug said we had a top 6 deck and we needed a change. There really has been a massive mentality shift we seem to go into games with the expectation we’re going to get 3 points.

We’re very lucky to have Lampard as a manager.

 

[Evo1883]

Was a serial winner as a player, its no surprise he’s got us to where we are now.

As Doug said we had a top 6 deck and we needed a change. There really has been a massive mentality shift we seem to go into games with the expectation we’re going to get 3 points.

We’re very lucky to have Lampard as a manager.

I agree , very lucky .. could have ended up with matt bloomfield

 

[Seamus1]

I agree , very lucky .. could have ended up with matt bloomfield

I will admit that I initially wanted Ruud van Nistelrooy, over Frank Lampard!! What a sodding idiot I am!!

 

[covcity4life]

Glad to see I was proven right all along. Had some posters be rude and argue with me so much back then. Hope they feel bad now

 

[Evo1883]

I will admit that I initially wanted Ruud van Nistelrooy, over Frank Lampard!! What a sodding idiot I am!!

I did too

 

[Jamesimus]

I genuinely wanted Kim Hellberg, so what do I know?!

 

[SKYBLUES90]

I agree , very lucky .. could have ended up with matt bloomfield

To be fair he’s not doing to bad, especially if he manages to keep them up.

 

[Sick Boy]

I genuinely wanted Kim Hellberg, so what do I know?!

 

[Evo1883]

To be fair he’s not doing to bad, especially if he manages to keep them up.

I agree but i dont think we are top today with bloomfield

 

[SKYBLUES90]

I agree but i dont think we are top today with bloomfield

No, he’d of been sacked about 6 months ago