Summer transfer rumours (23 Viewers)

[baldy]

Its wet from spunk from shagging your bird

Oh dear - day drinking?

 

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[stupot07]

Exactly, 0 chance we don’t at least get our money back

Not true though is it? He could get injured, he could run down his contract, he could lose form, that could have been his peak season.

 

[warwickskyblue]

Not really. Brau was confirmed in May last year

Out of contract player….. these can be done from January prior to the new season.

 

[SBAndy]

Not true though is it? He could get injured, he could run down his contract, he could lose form, that could have been his peak season.

I’m a bit hesitant over signing Rushworth for £15-20m. Unless he goes on to become one of the top 10 in the world then you probably don’t turn a meaningful profit. And it’s a lot of cash to sink into a goalkeeper.

 

[baldy]

I’m a bit hesitant over signing Rushworth for £15-20m. Unless he goes on to become one of the top 10 in the world then you probably don’t turn a meaningful profit. And it’s a lot of cash to sink into a goalkeeper.

Don't know if Lille are much of a comparison,but AC Milan forked out 16M on Maignan when they bought him from there

 

[stupot07]

The top 5 English goal keeper fees

1) Trafford (22) - £31m - 38 PL apps
2) Pickford (23) - £30m - 31 PL apps
3) Ramsdale (23) - £30m - 75 PL apps
4) Henderson (25) - £20m - 36 PL apps
5) Ramsdale (19) - £18m - 37 PL apps

All had PL experience.

Then drops down to £12m - Forster -

Given he will be 25 in the summer there is no precedent that he will increase his value if we paid £20m as peak values seem to be largely u23.

 

[Cov98]

I’m a bit hesitant over signing Rushworth for £15-20m. Unless he goes on to become one of the top 10 in the world then you probably don’t turn a meaningful profit. And it’s a lot of cash to sink into a goalkeeper.

For me signing Rushworth isn’t about turning a meaningful profit, it’s about keeping us in the prem and having a reliable number 1 keeper.

Is 15-20 million a lot? Of course but if we have any chance of staying in the league those are the figures we’re looking at.

 

[SleepyGinger]

Not true though is it? He could get injured, he could run down his contract, he could lose form, that could have been his peak season.

So could any player? Should we just not sign any players?

 

[stupot07]

So could any player? Should we just not sign any players?

No, just pointing out it's not 0 chance we don't make our money back. Historic record Fees for English keepers suggests that we probably wouldn't make a profit on £20m, which would be the joint 4th highest ever fee paid for an English keeper, and one that hasn't made a single PL appearance.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

No, just pointing out it's not 0 chance we don't make our money back. Historic record Fees for English keepers suggests that we probably wouldn't make a profit on £20m.

How?

Theres cases there of them going for £30m

 

[fernandopartridge]

The top 5 English goal keeper fees

1) Trafford (22) - £31m - 38 PL apps
2) Pickford (23) - £30m - 31 PL apps
3) Ramsdale (23) - £30m - 75 PL apps
4) Henderson (25) - £20m - 36 PL apps
5) Ramsdale (19) - £18m - 37 PL apps

All had PL experience.

Then drops down to £12 - Forster -

Given he will be 25 in the summer there is no precedent that he will increase his value if we paid £20m as peak values seem to be largely u23.

£17,999,988.00 is one hell of a drop off

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

How?

Theres cases there of them going for £30m

Not really many do. I did a post on this in November. Around half, if not more, of starting GKs in the PL cost less than £20m.

We all want to sign Rushworth, but £20m is a huge fee for a GK that's never even played in the PL.

 

[stupot07]

How?

Theres cases there of them going for £30m

Because of age. Trafford 22, Ramsdale 19 & 23, Pickford 23, Henderson 25.

Ramsdale and Henderson saw their fees reduce, Trafford and Pickford havent moved.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Not really many do. I did a post on this in November. Around half, if not more, of starting GKs in the PL cost less than £20m.

We all want to sign Rushworth, but £20m is a huge fee for a GK that's never even played in the PL.

How many starting ENGLISH keepers do?

 

[Sick Boy]

JDS compared to Gareth Bale, we have reached the pinnacle of SBT

It’s not quite as bad as when Chris Hussey was compared to him.

 

[stupot07]

How many starting ENGLISH keepers do?

There's only 4 English keepers that have cosy £20m+

Trafford
Pickford
Ramsdale - subsequently moved to Southampton at a loss (£24-30m to £15-20m)
Henderson - subsequently moved to Palace at a loss (£20m to £15m)

The top 5 English goal keeper fees

1) Trafford (22) - £31m - 38 PL apps
2) Pickford (23) - £30m - 31 PL apps
3) Ramsdale (23) - £30m - 75 PL apps
4) Henderson (25) - £20m - 36 PL apps
5) Ramsdale (19) - £18m - 37 PL apps

All had PL experience.

Then drops down to £12m - Forster -

Given he will be 25 in the summer there is no precedent that he will increase his value if we paid £20m as peak values seem to be largely u23.

 

[LarryGrayson]

Its wet from spunk from shagging your bird

thats no bird mate

 

[Ccfcisparks]

There's only 4 English keepers that have cosy £20m+

Trafford
Pickford
Ramsdale - subsequently moved to Southampton at a loss (£24-30m to £15-20m)
Henderson - subsequently moved to Palace at a loss (£20m to £15m)

Got you, so its likely we would turn a profit on him. Thank you!

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

Carl isn’t stupid. He’s guaranteed no 1 here will get a full season and if we’re relegated he’s put himself in the window for another PL move easy. He’s only got 1 year at Brighton and if he wants us the move will happen to us as they will cash in rather than let him go on a free. They will get £30m probably for their current Bart and £15m tops from us.

 

[Speedie's Head]

Have a word with yourself. Burnley spent over £111 million. Admittedly they didn't spend it wisely which is why they are now screwed but there's no chance we only spend less than half that.

Only 12 clubs had a net spend of over £50m last summer. Wages need to be paid on top, previous losses covered £20m in the last financial year, probably the same this season, ground updates etc etc. I just can't see it being a lot more. I think we all want financial security for the club in the future...

 

[SBAndy]

For me signing Rushworth isn’t about turning a meaningful profit, it’s about keeping us in the prem and having a reliable number 1 keeper.

Is 15-20 million a lot? Of course but if we have any chance of staying in the league those are the figures we’re looking at.

Of course ‘meaningful profit’ isn’t the key factor, but my wider point is you can probably get a keeper who’s just as good for 50% of the fee we’re talking about.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Only 12 clubs had a net spend of over £50m last summer. Wages need to be paid on top, previous losses covered £20m in the last financial year, probably the same this season, ground updates etc etc. I just can't see it being a lot more...

You do know thats because a lot of them already had Prem ready teams?

 

[ovduk78]

It’s not quite as bad as when Chris Hussey was compared to him.

Wasn't it Ryan Haynes?

 

[Speedie's Head]

You do know thats because a lot of them already had Prem ready teams?

You though we'd drop £10m+ last summer on Charlie Hughes. Just saying...

 

[Ccfcisparks]

You though we'd drop £10m+ last summer on Charlie Hughes. Just saying...

In the last 3 seasons every promoted team has spent above £50m except for Luton.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

You though we'd drop £10m+ last summer on Charlie Hughes. Just saying...

And if you want to go on about shite transfer opinions...

Transfer Rumour - 25/26 Summer Transfer Window

Doyle's rating on FotMob for 24/25 was 7.09, Kitching's was 6.91. Doyle played 40 games to Kitching's 27 in the Championship and contributed more goals (1 more) and assists (7). Could not find stats for both players last season.

www.skybluestalk.co.uk

 

[SBAndy]

Only 12 clubs had a net spend of over £50m last summer. Wages need to be paid on top, previous losses covered £20m in the last financial year, probably the same this season, ground updates etc etc. I just can't see it being a lot more. I think we all want financial security for the club in the future...

3 of them were the promoted teams., who between them had an average net spend of £90m.

 

[stupot07]

Got you, so its likely we would turn a profit on him. Thank you!

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. No fee above £20m has been paid on anyone over 25. Given Rushworth is 25 in July, his value isn't going to go up if we spend £20m on him.

In fact Aaron Ramsdale, 26 and Henderson 26, at the time of their last transfers both saw a loss on that transfer.

Ramsdale £30m at 23 to £15-20m at 26 years
Henderson £20m at 25 (rumoured agreed fee with forest) to £15m at 26 years

 

[Ccfcisparks]

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. No fee above £20m has been paid on anyone over 25. Given Rushworth is 25 in July, his value isn't going to go up if we spend £20m on him.

In fact Aaron Ramsdale, 26 and Henderson 26, at the time of their last transfers both saw a loss on that transfer.

I bet you it would! Theres loads of examples of keepers going for over £20m when they are above 25. Petrovic moved to Bournemouth for £25m!

 

[stupot07]

I bet you it would! Theres loads of examples of keepers going for over £20m when they are above 25. Petrovic moved to Bournemouth for £25m!

Not English ones.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Not English ones.

English ones have more value!

 

[SBAndy]

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. No fee above £20m has been paid on anyone over 25. Given Rushworth is 25 in July, his value isn't going to go up if we spend £20m on him.

In fact Aaron Ramsdale, 26 and Henderson 26, at the time of their last transfers both saw a loss on that transfer.

Ramsdale £30m at 23 to £15-20m at 26 years
Henderson £20m at 25 (agreed fee with forest) to £15m at 26 years

Can’t say his value isn’t going to go up; it’s unlikely to.

Top 5 PL keeper fees are:
- Kepa £71.6m
- Alisson £65m
- Onana £47.2m
- Ederson £34.7m
- Trafford £31m

Unless he’s going to be playing Champions League football within 2 years it’s very difficult to see a profit made.

 

[LarryGrayson]

Onana £47.2m

lol

 

[stupot07]

English ones have more value!

They obviously dont. And you're not going to get profits unless they are playing champions league. His value may go up, but it's not guaranteed and £20m is excessively high for a keeper with no PL experience, going to to a newly promoted team.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

They obviously dont. And you're not going to get profits unless they are playing champions league. His value may go up, but it's not guaranteed and £20m is excessively high for a keeper with no PL experience, going to to a newly promoted team.

Lets not bother then!