Southport Stabbing (11 Viewers)

pusbccfc

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The figures and reasons for that are interesting


Yep, was going to post something similar.

Lots of crime statistics have gone up because we are reporting crime differently. I can report a crime online now and it would be added to statistics.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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Well it has to meet this criteria:

The use or threat must also be for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause.

You just described it as 'random' - by definition that means it is not terrorism.
Perhaps he got on the wrong train and started stabbing everyone. Do you not think this was pre planned?
 

David O'Day

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Yep, was going to post something similar.

Lots of crime statistics have gone up because we are reporting crime differently. I can report a crime online now and it would be added to statistics.
There is social reasons but the "knife crime" stats are actually "knife enabled crime" stats
 

PVA

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Perhaps he got on the wrong train and started stabbing everyone. Do you not think this was pre planned?

Whether it was pre planned or random has no bearing on whether it's terrorism or not.

The definition is right there! If you don't agree with it that's fine, but it's not a case of the police trying to cover it up or because they have some sort of agenda or something.
 

Grendel

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Yep, was going to post something similar.

Lots of crime statistics have gone up because we are reporting crime differently. I can report a crime online now and it would be added to statistics.

Actually many other crime statistics have gone down…crime is falling
 

David O'Day

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Whether it was pre planned or random has no bearing on whether it's terrorism or not.

The definition is right there! If you don't agree with it that's fine, but it's not a case of the police trying to cover it up or because they have some sort of agenda or something.
just ignore him, he's a old man raging at the world he doesn't understand and wishing for one that never existed.
 

Grendel

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Yep i actually read that Knife homicides we’re down from what they were in 2008

Welk there aren’t any homocides from today so that’s a really smart thing to say
 

Grendel

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Are you two agreeing with each other? 😯

it’s not even factually accurate according to Statisca not that especially relevant
 

David O'Day

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You don't know how old I am, we could be the same age. You don't think people have a right to be outraged as to what's going on. Call me racist if you must
Judging by things you have posted etc about games you have been to etc you are older than me.

No one said you can't be outraged but shite like saying the police are covering up terrorism is batshit and worrying.

Have a nice life.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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Judging by things you have posted etc about games you have been to etc you are older than me.

No one said you can't be outraged but shite like saying the police are covering up terrorism is batshit and worrying.

Have a nice life.
Let's wait until it all comes out eh. Nobody knows the full details yet.
 

DT-R

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Any news on what colour they are?
Not white! If they were white/British, it would've been announced immediately to "stop racial tensions arising" so the fact they've not announced anything yet suggests to me they're clearly middle Eastern, more than likely been given leave to stay recently.

But the same old people will come along and call me racist and say that we cant jump to conclusions.

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Ccfcisparks

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Not white! If they were white/British, it would've been announced immediately to "stop racial tensions arising" so the fact they've not announced anything yet suggests to me they're clearly middle Eastern, more than likely been given leave to stay recently.

But the same old people will come along and call me racist and say that we cant jump to conclusions.

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They are black british.
 

Grendel

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David O'Day

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Not white! If they were white/British, it would've been announced immediately to "stop racial tensions arising" so the fact they've not announced anything yet suggests to me they're clearly middle Eastern, more than likely been given leave to stay recently.

But the same old people will come along and call me racist and say that we cant jump to conclusions.

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They've said they were black and british mate
 

DT-R

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But they have haven’t they? Its illegal to carry a knife in public.
Stop and search would definitely help reduce the kids doing it but wont stop someone hellbent on killing innocent people.
Armed police everywhere is one answer but do we really need to go down that route?
Yes its illegal to carry knives, but you cant ban them. ie, you cant just walk in to Asda Living and buy an AK47, but can buy a knife block with 5 deadly weapons inside as long as you can prove youre over 18.
You cant go in to your mums kitchen draw and pull out a browning 9mm, but can easily pick up a chefs knife.
You cant ban the sale of knives, meaning theyre always gonna be readily available to use. You cant stop and search EVERY person just because theyre brown, or young, or [enter other stereotypes here], and therefore not going to stop these kind of things happening more and more.

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