Southport Stabbing (4 Viewers)

[Joy Division]

so the fact they've not announced anything yet suggests to me they're clearly middle Eastern, more than likely been given leave to stay recently.

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[Ccfcisparks]

Was there?

I recall different, no one gave a shit because they worked and paid tax

how old were you 20 years ago out of curiosity.

 

[SBT]

Not white! If they were white/British, it would've been announced immediately to "stop racial tensions arising" so the fact they've not announced anything yet suggests to me they're clearly middle Eastern, more than likely been given leave to stay recently.

But the same old people will come along and call me racist and say that we cant jump to conclusions.

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You do realise you could avoid getting this angry by reading even just one article about this story in the past hour?

 

[Saddlebrains]

how old were you 20 years ago out of curiosity.

16

 

[SBT]

Was there?

I recall different, no one gave a shit because they worked and paid tax

If you honestly don’t remember this kind of stuff then no wonder you think the world is worse today.

 

[DT-R]

They are black british.

I mean, Axel Rudibicana or however you spell it was black British. Lee Rigbys murderers were black British.

They throw the "British" part in there to make it sound like its not Islamic terror related.

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[Ccfcisparks]

I mean, Axel Rudibicana or however you spell it was black British. Lee Rigbys murderers were black British.

They throw the "British" part in there to make it sound like its not Islamic terror related.

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We dont know either way yet if its islamic or not

 

[PVA]

Not white! If they were white/British, it would've been announced immediately to "stop racial tensions arising" so the fact they've not announced anything yet suggests to me they're clearly middle Eastern, more than likely been given leave to stay recently.

But the same old people will come along and call me racist and say that we cant jump to conclusions.

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It was announced they were born in the UK to stop social media going into overdrive about Muslims and immigrants. Didn't stop plenty of people though.

 

[David O'Day]

I mean, Axel Rudibicana or however you spell it was black British. Lee Rigbys murderers were black British.

They throw the "British" part in there to make it sound like its not Islamic terror related.

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You saying black people aren't British? You also said they were "middle eastern" which they are not.

 

[rob9872]

If you honestly don’t remember this kind of stuff then no wonder you think the world is worse today.

To be fair to him, it's only one example, but my mates Mrs is Polish, she's been here about 20 years and always worked, but even she is fed up of how things have changed in that time and looking now to return to Poland. Originally she came here for a better standard of living. As soon as my mate has a bit more grasp of the language, they'll be off.

 

[DT-R]

It was announced they were born in the UK to stop social media going into overdrive about Muslims and immigrants. Didn't stop plenty of people though.

They announced Axel Rudibicana was born in Wales too, to stop social media coming to conclusions, but those conclusions were still true! The fact the media and government tried to hide what he was, was so disrespectful to those little girls and their families!

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[David O'Day]

They announced Axel Rudibicana was born in Wales too, to stop social media coming to conclusions, but those conclusions were still true! The fact the media and government tried to hide what he was, was so disrespectful to those little girls and their families!

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The social media conclusions about him were that he was a muslim immigrant when he was someone of no real religion born in the uk to a christian family

 

[DT-R]

You saying black people aren't British? You also said they were "middle eastern" which they are not.

I never said they were, I said it suggested they were.
I also never said black people arent British. Im saying, they throw the British part in to it to diffuse tensions with Islamic communities. Because if theyre British, theyre clearly not Islamic terrorists? When in fact, all these people were exactly that. Being born in Britain doesn't change that.

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[SBT]

The police really are on a hiding to nothing with this new transparency on suspect ethnicity if this is the kind of conspiratorial stuff they’re up against

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

The social media conclusions about him were that he was a muslim immigrant when he was someone of no real religion born in the uk to a christian family

The son of the Rwandan warlord given British status

 

[PVA]

The police really are on a hiding to nothing with this new transparency on suspect ethnicity if this is the kind of conspiratorial stuff they’re up against

It's nuts. They can't win can they.

 

[rob9872]

The social media conclusions about him were that he was a muslim immigrant when he was someone of no real religion born in the uk to a christian family

Agreed that was wrong, but equally the photo put out of him like butter wouldn't melt and the portrayal in yhe media of the Welsh Choir boy and how could this happen was just as absurd, when he was on watch lists.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

The son of the Rwandan warlord given British status

Was he really a warlord. Can you share the article on that. Thats shocking if true.

 

[Grendel]

It's nuts. They can't win can they.

Wasn’t it the Liverpool incident when it first happened and the government advised this should continue?

 

[David O'Day]

I never said they were, I said it suggested they were.
I also never said black people arent British. Im saying, they throw the British part in to it to diffuse tensions with Islamic communities. Because if theyre British, theyre clearly not Islamic terrorists? When in fact, all these people were exactly that. Being born in Britain doesn't change that.

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Nothing suggested they were middle eastern though.

The southport killer wasn't related to islam? Why are you saying it was?

 

[Evo1883]

The police really are on a hiding to nothing with this new transparency on suspect ethnicity if this is the kind of conspiratorial stuff they’re up against

Ah yes the police , who famously havent let people down because they fear backlash on race or religion

Maybe they should just be honest every time that would help.
Trust doesnt happen overnight

 

[David O'Day]

Was he really a warlord. Can you share the article on that. Thats shocking if true.

Alphonse Rudakubana wasn't a warlord. He was an officer in the Rwanda Patriotic Army, the force that fought to end the Rwandan Genocide and basically the people who the last government wanted to send immigrants to.

 

[SBT]

Ah yes the police , who famously havent let people down because they fear backlash on race or religion

Maybe they should just be honest every time , that would help.
Trust doesnt happen overnight

What am I missing here? They’ve changed their policy in the face of public outcry and released the ethnicity of the suspects at the earliest opportunity, but you’re still not happy?

 

[PVA]

Nothing suggested they were middle eastern though.

His X feed probably suggested it.

 

[Evo1883]

What am I missing here? They’ve changed their policy in the face of public outcry and released the ethnicity of the suspects at the earliest opportunity, but you’re still not happy?

And im suggesting public trust in the establishment is rock bottom and rightly so

 

[rob9872]

What I have noticed, is that every single one of these events that are being argued about, was committed by a man. The answer therefore, is surround yourself by women and you might even get stinky fingers.

 

[Sick Boy]

Was there?

I recall different, no one gave a shit because they worked and paid tax

Sorry but that’s utter bollocks.

 

[SBT]

And im suggesting public trust in the establishment is rock bottom and rightly so

Fair enough - I personally think the greater transparency from the police is a good thing. But there are clearly some people who will never be satisfied.

 

[Evo1883]

Fair enough - I personally think the greater transparency from the police is a good thing. But there are clearly some people who will never be satisfied.

Its a good thing

 

[Marty]

To be fair to him, it's only one example, but my mates Mrs is Polish, she's been here about 20 years and always worked, but even she is fed up of how things have changed in that time and looking now to return to Poland. Originally she came here for a better standard of living. As soon as my mate has a bit more grasp of the language, they'll be off.

What part? We're seriously looking at it too.

 

[rob9872]

What part? We're seriously looking at it too.

Near Krakow, back to where her family are.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

What part? We're seriously looking at it too.

Why aren't Poland, Czechia, Hungary, Slovakia etc not suffering with these awful atrocities i wonder

 

[Macca]

Worry folks it's not terrorism related apparently just some gentle stabbing

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

We dont know either way yet if its islamic or not

Very unlikely not many Muslims in the Caribbean I don’t think
Not out the question of course

 

[DT-R]

Nothing suggested they were middle eastern though.

The southport killer wasn't related to islam? Why are you saying it was?

He downloaded an Al-Qaeda training manual ffs! How much more Islam do you need to get?

Also, both of Lee Rigbys murderers were british born Christians, that murdered a British soldier on the streets to the name of Allah! So saying he was Christian doesnt even wash anymore!

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