Southport Stabbing (11 Viewers)

[pusbccfc]

Well this is what I'm saying. How do you fix it? Scanners before getting on a train?

What I'm saying though is this idea that we were a lovely civilised society before this argument around immigration really flared up though is nonsense.

You can't really.

Even if you took a zero tolerance approach, people would still commit these crimes.

 

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[pusbccfc]

It wasn't perfect but it was far nicer.

Was it?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I'd suggest you're too young to have a clue.

Ah yes I'm sure. Fortunately I have conversations with people who aren't far too young and they seem to suggest the same.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

When was this?

It was much nicer when Raoul Moat was running round the country and everyone was worried he was gonna pop up in there town.

 

[Marty]

Ah yes I'm sure. Fortunately I have conversations with people who aren't far too young and they seem to suggest the same.

Probably a load of bores like yourself. Stick to your shit wind up routine.

 

[Sick Boy]

Ah yes I'm sure. Fortunately I have conversations with people who aren't far too young and they seem to suggest the same.

20 years ago there was loads of vitriol against the Polish coming over to work and how it was destroying British culture etc.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Probably a load of bores like yourself. Stick to your shit wind up routine.

And thats where your argument ends. total drip.

 

[Marty]

And thats where your argument ends. total drip.

Bit rich coming from you.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

20 years ago there was loads of vitriol against the Polish coming over to work and how it was destroying British culture etc.

and those in Windrush before that.

Its just cyclical and repeats itself generation after generation.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Bit rich coming from you.

another zinger

get your reaction score up

 

[pusbccfc]

Two black British men arrested. Not being treated as terror.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

It was much nicer when Raoul Moat was running round the country and everyone was worried he was gonna pop up in there town.

Nice to have a catchup with Gazza

 

[PVA]

Some good news:

Of the nine people believed to have life-threatening injuries, four have been discharged, police say in an update - two remain in a life-threatening condition


Hopefully those two are able to make it through.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Some good news:

Of the nine people believed to have life-threatening injuries, four have been discharged, police say in an update - two remain in a life-threatening condition


Hopefully those two are able to make it through.

so was it just the 9 affected, or have any died

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Hungerford, Michael Ryan.

For Sky Blue Pete. Quote function didn't work again.

So not Huntingdon at all thanks awful of course
Not sure it matters where or who but it clearly does to Nigel and his supporters

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

20 years ago there was loads of vitriol against the Polish coming over to work and how it was destroying British culture etc.

Yep

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

20 years ago there was loads of vitriol against the Polish coming over to work and how it was destroying British culture etc.

That’s right

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Two black British men arrested. Not being treated as terror.

Wankers

 

[Grendel]

So not Huntingdon at all thanks awful of course
Not sure it matters where or who but it clearly does to Nigel and his supporters

Does it? It happened on a train it wasn’t even going to Huntingdon

 

[David O'Day]

I'd suggest you're too young to have a clue.

There's some good books on criminality in the UK and how violent society has always been. So how far are you going back as you can trace this all the way back to the 19th and maybe 18th centuries.

 

[Grendel]

People have been stabbing people for decades.

Let's not forget, hooligans used to go round using weapons.

Not to downplay this incident or any. We hear about them more and they are horrific.

Knife crime has risen 80% in the last 10 years

 

[PVA]

Two black British men arrested. Not being treated as terror.

Both born in the UK. So nothing to do with a recent influx of immigrants as many were suggesting earlier.

 

[Joy Division]

Awful news and really hope everyone pulls through.

Thoughts and prayers to the Reformers suffering right now with the news the perpetrators are actually British.

 

[David O'Day]

Knife crime has risen 80% in the last 10 years

The figures and reasons for that are interesting

Is knife crime at a record high?

In order to address knife crime effectively, we need to understand the full extent of the problem. View our latest stats, & Toolkit evidence.

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[Gynnsthetonic]

Both born in the UK. So nothing to do with a recent influx of immigrants as many were suggesting earlier.

Yes, sounds all to similar to the Lee Rigby murderers

 

[SBT]

The eyewitness reports sounded absolutely horrendous, it’s fortunate that so many of the victims are out of hospital, and that there isn’t a broader security threat involved.

Do any of this country’s political parties have a convincing plan for tackling knife crime?

 

[David O'Day]

Yes, sounds all to similar to the Lee Rigby murderers

The police have said there's nothing to indicate it was a terrorist incident haven't they?

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

The police have said there's nothing to indicate it was a terrorist incident haven't they?

Of course they'll say that, 2 people on a train with machetes randomly trying to kill people. What's your definition of Terror David?

 

[PVA]

Yes, sounds all to similar to the Lee Rigby murderers

But I thought the problem was immigration?

So what's the answer, deport everyone with foreign parents, even those born in the UK?

 

[Grendel]

But I thought the problem was immigration?

So what's the answer, deport everyone with foreign parents, even those born in the UK?

It’s interesting you were saying people were more interested in the politics of the argument than the victims and now are doing exactly the same

 

[David O'Day]

Of course they'll say that, 2 people on a train with machetes randomly trying to kill people. What's your definition of Terror David?

So you know better than the police? Ok, I know you gutted it's a couple British people but take your vile poison and go away.

I'll wait until the police tell us why it happened.

 

[PVA]

Of course they'll say that, 2 people on a train with machetes randomly trying to kill people. What's your definition of Terror David?

Well it has to meet this criteria:

The use or threat must also be for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause.

You just described it as 'random' - by definition that means it is not terrorism.

 

[PVA]

It’s interesting you were saying people were more interested in the politics of the argument than the victims and now are doing exactly the same

No my point was that people were more concerned with the background of the attackers and didn't once mention the victims. It was quite clear which was more important to them.

Nice try though.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

So you know better than the police? Ok, I know you gutted it's a couple British people but take your vile poison and go away.

I'll wait until the police tell us why it happened.

You can't answer can you Mr IRA

 

[David O'Day]

Well it has to meet this criteria:

The use or threat must also be for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause.

You just described it as 'random' - that means it is not terrorism.

Facts and the truth don't mean anything anymore.