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Sisu to buy Northampton ??? (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jun 24, 2015
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #36
italiahorse said:
You can't see the difference ?
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Yes I can... it's you that seems to struggle with the hypocrisy.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #37
italiahorse said:
You can't see the difference ?
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That one is worse than the other?
 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #38
skyblueindorset said:
Sisu to buy Northampton ???


What are Sisu going to do with a town that size?
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Hopefully they move the town near the South Coast, even if its only for a year - we love it down there!
 

italiahorse

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  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #39
Ian1779 said:
Yes I can... it's you that seems to struggle with the hypocrisy.
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CCFC said:
That one is worse than the other?
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Were you one of the few that had to look up 'Franchise' before you started to argue against it ?
Said it before. Wasps bought something that no one else apparently wanted.
Blame Sisu not Wasps .... or me !!!
 
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Steve.B50

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #40
Grendel said:
No I'm not Steve I just tell it as it is and it's a truth that really irks people like you. Italia is an utter WUM. Sisu lover to Sisu hater. Wasps fan. However, he never challenged the trust and its hierarchy so he's an ok guy after all.
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You had every opportunity to challenge the Trust Board, but you are a coward who just sits behind a keyboard and spouts anything that comes into your little yellow mind.
The Trust are far from perfect but at least those who are involved have put themselves above the parapet and are trying to do something, unlike you who seems to live on here with the sim of being an annoying little gimp.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #41
Yellow mind? Bit racist.
 
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Steve.B50

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  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #42
ajsccfc said:
Yellow mind? Bit racist.
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Yellow= Coward
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #43
Don't make me have to add smileys.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #44
Steve.B50 said:
You had every opportunity to challenge the Trust Board, but you are a coward who just sits behind a keyboard and spouts anything that comes into your little yellow mind.
The Trust are far from perfect but at least those who are involved have put themselves above the parapet and are trying to do something, unlike you who seems to live on here with the sim of being an annoying little gimp.
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That's the problem isn't it? Why on earth would anyone want to be involved in the Trust when any observation against them is met with the usual string of abusive comments?

It's hardly a professional way to handle things is it? Not nice to address a fellow trust member than way is it?

Bottom line is the trust to most fans became a laughing stock when it decided to support the wasps move to Coventry. There was a definite endorsement. The fact you fail to see the invidious position this puts you in regarding taking a stance on franchised support is incredible. Ultimately the trust needs people with strategic and professional acumen to make it succeed. Even Jan who seems to possess those skills ended up looking foolish defending the indefensible.

So how do you attract people like that when every time someone questions you (and its not just me) is subjected to the same tiresome abuse? A statement should have been made denouncing the wasps move. Instead you did nothing. You didn't council the membership (and before you say there are meetings in that pub) - the only way is through polling and referendum. It's never progressed beyond the days Natalie Cox was there. It's still a closed shop for a few tub thumping extremists who represent no-one. In fact it's gone backwards. At least she was media savvy and could be an effective communicator.

Who is the trust? You, Moz and last and his brother. That's it isn't it? Head above the parapet? Above what parapet? I've never known such a one eyed closed shop that stifles discussion. You should all go to North Korea Steve - even they'd think you were regressive.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #45
Ian1779 said:
Yes I can... it's you that seems to struggle with the hypocrisy.
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Got it ....

Destroying a teams history and fanbase in an attempt get an asset for nothing ?
Cementing a teams history and increasing it's fanbase whilst purchasing an asset at market value ?

Nice to be the other way round, but it isn't, get over it.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #46
italiahorse said:
Got it ....

Destroying a teams history and fanbase in an attempt get an asset for nothing ?
Cementing a teams history and increasing it's fanbase whilst purchasing an asset at market value ?

Nice to be the other way round, but it isn't, get over it.
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Market value? Weren't you squealing that Sisu that rotten hedge fund were trying to rip off a children's charity by not giving them £6 million back?

Cementing a teams history? How? By moving it and getting a larger fan base? I see. So if Dublin was a larger fan base you'd support Sisu going there? Who cares if anyone is left behind eh?
 
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Jack Griffin

Guest
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #47
Grendel criticising others for lack of professionalism, what staggering hypocrisy from a potty mouthed keyboard warrior!

Grendel said:
Wow I'm crushed by the intellectual genius known as Samo.
The crux of course is that there are a clique of fools on here who cannot take any form of questioning or criticism.
If we are on the subject of intellect what do you think about the latest craze of just calling someone Tim fisher? Frankly its boring and rather embarrasing.
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Grendel said:
Sadly the site is going downhill. It's full of council obsessed fools or bland posters with very little to say. Decide which catagory you fit into Broken Hearted Sky Blue.
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Grendel said:
This is an e mail for corporate prospects. Well out of your demographic little man.
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Grendel said:
I vote for a Phoenix Club. Then you can piss off and leave real supporters to talk about CCFC.
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Grendel said:
I think everyone on the other forum has you sussed shmmeeee you are just a fool to be pitied.
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Grendel said:
Which is precisely the point, crappycov and simple have both done separate threads on free tickets and when interrogated for more information become, shall we say, slightly irked.
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Grendel said:
Has PWKH forgiven you yet for your "misunderstanding"? Seeing you grovel and bend over backwards was the funniest thing on here for years. Are you not capable of forming an opinion of your own?
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Grendel said:
Is this thread exclusive to the 2 Tony's talking mindless bollocks or can anyone join in?
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Grendel said:
Remind me - Coventry is the capital city of where? I know you aren't the brightest spark but Christ.....
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Grendel said:
Unfounded sanctimonious twaddle.
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Grendel said:
It means that ultimately most investors have no actual ability to decipher where each element of the investment is.
For once instead of acting like one of the characters portrayed in that ghastly Harry Enfield / Kathy Burke combo actually show some maturity in you debating style. Really. its so pathetic there is little point in responding.
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Grendel said:
And people have the audacity to call me a troll when sanctimonois tossers like this keep spouting their pro ACL bullshit ALL the time.
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Grendel said:
Surely the council pay you to live in that shithole?
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Grendel said:
We don't all need camper van's to go on holiday little man - you don't have a clue.
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Grendel said:
They made less than £200,000 on fox and Dann you clown.
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Grendel said:
You'd certainly need an idiots guide.
You need to hold one fact in that tiny little brain if yours - it cost the council £10 million in terms of investment - a figure they have never disputed.
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Grendel said:
He's a juvenile clown and you have both on here and GMK proved you are an idiot. Fortunate most of our supporters are far, far more balanced and sensible than the pair of you.
At least I know how to get rid of Rich now. I just mention the challenge, he throws more childish insults and logs off.
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Grendel said:
What a prick
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Grendel said:
He has no cause this isn't a political struggle you buffoon.
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Grendel said:
That's handy jack. Why don't you fuck off.
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Grendel said:
The likes of him and Mr T are wankers. They should be banned from the forum.
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Grendel said:
And you'd love that wouldn't you? I bet you were laughing by the time the 5th goal went in.
You are pathetic.
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Grendel said:
Oh goody - Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber are on together.
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Grendel said:
I think you take being stupid to a whole new level.
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Grendel said:
Bore off you sanctimonious twat.
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Grendel said:
Have you not had the benefit of an education? What are you struggling with? Do the facts not fit with your warped and distorted view of the truth?
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Grendel said:
It is the Sunday sport equivalent of sports broadcasting. It appeals to a very low demographic which I assume is why you like it and I don't.
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Grendel said:
Your not very bright are you?
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Grendel said:
Hunt is the antithesis of RFC - an idiot that sits on the other side of the fence.
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Grendel said:
You aren't that dimwit Alan that always phones up CWR are you? Tonight he excelled himself in his stupidity.
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Grendel said:
Well if the cap fits wear it arsehole.
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Grendel said:
I've had a note from the pig shit union saying they are suing you for defamation. To even compare GPE's IQ to pigshit has caused them outrage. They said its even worse than the last comparison with Italiahorse.
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Grendel said:
You really are a dull poster aren't you?
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Grendel said:
I think the real purpose of this thread has clearly gone above your head
Never mind
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Grendel said:
It is serious and sadly you are too dumb to understand the nature of the strategy.
Lets use crayons and make ot simple for you.
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Grendel said:
Lucas said they would sell the freehold. Why don't you leave this thread for the grown ups?
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Grendel said:
I think you were called a cock by someone, someone else took the piss and you departed back to your equally clueless brain dead friends on here.
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Grendel said:
Well one already exposed you as a liar so I guess for you fact and fiction just blur into one.
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Grendel said:
What an idiot you are.
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Grendel said:
Who are "we" - I'm glad I did - at least I can distance myself from uneducated morons like you. Supporters like you embarrass the club - I hope other fans' don't view this site when people like you are posting.
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Grendel said:
He means the chuckle brothers. I'm sure astute and dongle will be on calling them a pack of wolves.
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Grendel said:
Natalie cox was often in the local media.
Its obvious this is media attention seeking.
She always comes across as condescending and smug. The issue never seems that important - just Natalie's view on it.
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Grendel said:
What an idiot you are.
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Grendel said:
If the level of your contribution is inane sound bites like this why bother posting on here?
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Grendel said:
It is serious and sadly you are too dumb to understand the nature of the strategy.

Lets use crayons and make ot simple for you.

The two biggest objections highlighted on here were;

The stadium holds 12,000
It's not in Coventry

So the details they release are very sketchy but do offer two bits of information;

The stadium holds 12,000
It's not in Coventry

Now, I'm trying hard here - have given a the clues in my OP.

What possible reason would be behind this strategy?
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Grendel said:
The sisu fly trap opens its mouth and Italia waddles right in.
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Grendel said:
You don't do irony do you?
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Grendel said:
No I'm bored with people who quote facts (like 12,000 stadiums) which are made up crap
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Grendel said:
http://stadiumdb.com/news/2013/07/coventry_new_stadium_to_copy_rotherham_tension_growing

As said its 18,000 unless you are prepared to call Fisher a liar - please confirm if you agree now its 18,000 or declare Fisher a liar
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Grendel said:
The facts are very relevant - you can't answer them.

The stadium will if ever built be more than 12,000. This thread has nothing to do with our stadium though does it. You have forever been banging on about the many things the Ricoh can be without the club. It's only fair and in the interests of the taxpayer that the potential is developed.

I'm not selfish i am community spirited.
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Grendel said:
I think the real purpose of this thread has clearly gone above your head

Never mind
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Grendel said:
This is all becoming rather childish. I have even deleted my petulant post regarding the Gentleman - despite his ludricous and insulting diatribe -- there peace is restored.
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Grendel said:
The image of Mucas and red bull is too much. She croaking to the Red Bull board "lets make Coventry great"

Christ.
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Grendel said:
The jury is out as to even if you have a mind.
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Grendel said:
I explained you idiot I assume Tony is the SISU fan anyway as he is trying to tell them the best solution for their needs is the European Comission.

I think Tony is just a bit exited at the moment, he has the European elections looming and his beloved Nigel Farage is giving him sleepless nights,
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Grendel said:
What the fuck are you on about? I will engage in sensible debate with Chiefdave who is mature and rational in his counter argument.

Then we get an insignificant twerp like you with no intellect, no debate and no valuable contrubution

Its past your bedtime - go away.
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Grendel said:
Bit harsh on yourself -- you've only done 8 posts -- then again all 8 have been shit
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Grendel said:
Well as you lie and stir shit all the time as well I am sure you will like it.

You are two peas in a pod.
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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #48
Grendel said:
That's the problem isn't it? Why on earth would anyone want to be involved in the Trust when any observation against them is met with the usual string of abusive comments?

It's hardly a professional way to handle things is it? Not nice to address a fellow trust member than way is it?

Bottom line is the trust to most fans became a laughing stock when it decided to support the wasps move to Coventry. There was a definite endorsement. The fact you fail to see the invidious position this puts you in regarding taking a stance on franchised support is incredible. Ultimately the trust needs people with strategic and professional acumen to make it succeed. Even Jan who seems to possess those skills ended up looking foolish defending the indefensible.

So how do you attract people like that when every time someone questions you (and its not just me) is subjected to the same tiresome abuse? A statement should have been made denouncing the wasps move. Instead you did nothing. You didn't council the membership (and before you say there are meetings in that pub) - the only way is through polling and referendum. It's never progressed beyond the days Natalie Cox was there. It's still a closed shop for a few tub thumping extremists who represent no-one. In fact it's gone backwards. At least she was media savvy and could be an effective communicator.

Who is the trust? You, Moz and last and his brother. That's it isn't it? Head above the parapet? Above what parapet? I've never known such a one eyed closed shop that stifles discussion. You should all go to North Korea Steve - even they'd think you were regressive.
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With people like you around sniping, who would want to pull the fans together?
Most see the hopelessness of dealing with Sisu, most see the success of the march yet a few keyboard warriors stop anybody coming forward to challenge for trust leadership.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #49
Have you had those Grendel quotes saved ready to go?
 
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armybike

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  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #50
Jack Griffin said:
Grendel criticising others for lack of professionalism, what staggering hypocrisy from a potty mouthed keyboard warrior!
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You can vastly improve your experience here with just a couple of clicks fella!! - http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/profile.php?do=ignorelist


 

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Grendel

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  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #51
You seem to have missed a few of my greatest hits out Jack. However, your hero worship of me is flattering. Now yesterday sky blue Tony said I was sad enough to dig out one post from that troglodyte from Bury. Tony - what do you make of Jack? He seems to be doing a PHD in Grendel on SBT. I think he'll struggle to get a third.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #52
Don't drag me into your lovers tiff. I'm really not interested to a threesome thanks.
 

ccfcway

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  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #53
that list of grendal quotes reminded me of the JR case for SISU.
 

italiahorse

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  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #54
Grendel said:
Market value? Weren't you squealing that Sisu that rotten hedge fund were trying to rip off a children's charity by not giving them £6 million back?

Cementing a teams history? How? By moving it and getting a larger fan base? I see. So if Dublin was a larger fan base you'd support Sisu going there? Who cares if anyone is left behind eh?
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The market value at the time was what Sisu had created by moving us to Northampton.
Wouldn't Higgs at least expect what they paid CCFC for their share back, particularly as that was the agreement when they helped out CCFC cash flow by buying it ?
Didn't Sisu actually value it at zero?

Why would I want my team to move out of Coventry ?

Try and be more constructive !!
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #55
Stalker alert!
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #56
It says something when you put yourself on your ignore list Grendel
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #57
ccfcway said:
that list of grendal quotes reminded me of the JR case for SISU.
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To be fair he missed out the one when I gave you the Steve Jacobs award - so much time on the pitch and no one remembers a single contribution they ever made.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #58
italiahorse said:
Were you one of the few that had to look up 'Franchise' before you started to argue against it ?
Said it before. Wasps bought something that no one else apparently wanted.
Blame Sisu not Wasps .... or me !!!
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Not blaming you, I just find your attitude towards it appalling and shameful.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #59
Grendel said:
To be fair he missed out the one when I gave you the Steve Jacobs award - so much time on the pitch and no one remembers a single contribution they ever made.
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I haven't received it.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #60
CCFC said:
Not blaming you, I just find your attitude towards it appalling and shameful.
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I can't do anything about the situation so I just get on with it.
If it makes people feel better to rant and rave then that's life.
Most people have but about a dozen of us on here are just passing time by winding each other up.
Enjoy
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #61
I don't wind anyone up, I spend my time trying to encourage people to support the club. As you can imagine it goes down like a lead balloon on here.
 

mrtrench

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  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #62
Did he really call me a wanker and say I should be banned from the site? Cripes!
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #63
mrtrench said:
Did he really call me a wanker and say I should be banned from the site? Cripes!
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There is another user on the forum who goes by Mr T - Sukka think he was referring to him and not you.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #64
italiahorse said:
The market value at the time was what Sisu had created by moving us to Northampton.
Wouldn't Higgs at least expect what they paid CCFC for their share back, particularly as that was the agreement when they helped out CCFC cash flow by buying it ?
Didn't Sisu actually value it at zero?

Why would I want my team to move out of Coventry ?

Try and be more constructive !!
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But if CCFC did move out of Coventry because it was more commercially viable and would increase the fan base I assume you'd be ok with that?

I'm with others here. You gave more stick than most to those that went to sixfields and now you support a different franchised club moved away from its fans. Hypocritical.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #65
CCFC said:
I don't wind anyone up, I spend my time trying to encourage people to support the club. As you can imagine it goes down like a lead balloon on here.
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I support the club with a season ticket each year. Also attending most away matches.
Top class Rugby has always been on the telly until now.
 

mrtrench

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  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #66
CCFC said:
There is another user on the forum who goes by Mr T - Sukka think he was referring to him and not you.
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Too bad. Then again it was an easy guess.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #67
italiahorse said:
I support the club with a season ticket each year. Also attending most away matches.
Top class Rugby has always been on the telly until now.
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Gonna have to start sacrificing those away games now they've moved the top class rugby to Saturday.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #68
mrtrench said:
Too bad. Then again it was an easy guess.
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Sorry to disappoint it was the man from the A Team
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #69
mark82 said:
But if CCFC did move out of Coventry because it was more commercially viable and would increase the fan base I assume you'd be ok with that?

I'm with others here. You gave more stick than most to those that went to sixfields and now you support a different franchised club moved away from its fans. Hypocritical.
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He probably tried to buy the car park field at sixfields and lost out. Such a grudge bearer.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2015
  • #70
mark82 said:
But if CCFC did move out of Coventry because it was more commercially viable and would increase the fan base I assume you'd be ok with that?

I'm with others here. You gave more stick than most to those that went to sixfields and now you support a different franchised club moved away from its fans. Hypocritical.
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I never gave any stick to those that went to Sixfields.
My comments mainly related to making people aware that Sisu needed people to attend long enough for ACL to fail.

CCFC hasn't got the pull to move out of Coventry and continue.
Wasps believe they have and so far it has gone well for them.
 
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