letsallsingtogether
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Totally agree Evo.
I find it odd that he was Dragged off at Wycombe before half time but now is a constant starter. All a bit odd
Surely if someone deserves criticism they shouldn't complain when they get it. Too many people on here are so sensitive and want to falsely heap praise on players instead of accepting whats actually happening
Garryb80 I have not seen Shipley anywhere complain about criticism.I think the abuse on here towards his family needs to stop.I said Mr Robins is the 1 that picks him.As you're on first name terms, please tell Mark to stop picking him. He's not up to this level and its becoming clear to see.
He went off injured against Wycombe.
That isn't the clear cut reason at all.
Go on?
This has already been covered several times, and you know it.
Robins said in his interview afterwards that we couldn't afford to carry people and grunted his way through the question of why he was carried off.
I get that people feel sentimental about the guy, but whilst there are some people that abuse him every 5 seconds, you also have a handful of posters looking to deflect or make bigger issue about him being called out.
He has been absolutely atrocious and should not be anywhere near the team. It is a real concern that the manager keeps picking him, and it questions his integrity.
He has been absolutely atrocious and should not be anywhere near the team. It is a real concern that the manager keeps picking him, and it questions his integrity.
The biggest problem if we took out everyone described on here as 'shit' we wouldn't find 11 to field a team.I agree that he has played poorly, but he did play well in the last league game before Reading, at Millwall, so based on that you can see why MR picked him. You would be right though to think he may not pick him for the next game though. As manager, he and Adi Viveash will make their decisions on what they feel is best for the team, regardless of what we think (can't believe they'll allow SBT to txt a team to them in advance - although would be fun in deciding who to blame if we lost a game due to Dabo's performance in Centre midfield!)
Robins keeps picking himI can't forgive stuff like last night where someone, mccallum maybe, dribbled past two, got into the corner to lay it back to Shipley 18 yards out. Who didn't even look but his first instinct was to go 25 yards back to James. Even the sky commentator and gabbidon sorta sighed.
If that's where his heads at, he's no good to us and it's not good for him
I'd like to see that again. From what I can recall it wasn't really the place for a left footer to get a shot off that would trouble the keeper and the pass back was more like 15 yards max and we retained possession (edge of the box so 25 yards back would have been almost the half way line). He was lambasted later for taking a shot which went wayward. With the first, it was a bit negative but you'd think it had resulted in a goal for the opposition the way it's been portrayed and certainly not as bad imo as we retained the ball, as O'hares passback to their keeper.I can't forgive stuff like last night where someone, mccallum maybe, dribbled past two, got into the corner to lay it back to Shipley 18 yards out. Who didn't even look but his first instinct was to go 25 yards back to James. Even the sky commentator and gabbidon sorta sighed.
If that's where his heads at, he's no good to us and it's not good for him
Not advocating a shot there as you're right, it was never on. But look up, look forward. We've signed a big man for the middle, dink it in. Draw a defender out. Take him on. Drill it across goal. You're supporting the striker!I'd like to see that again. From what I can recall it wasn't really the place for a left footer to get a shot off that would trouble the keeper and the pass back was more like 15 yards max and we retained possession (edge of the box so 25 yards back would have been almost the half way line). He was lambasted later for taking a shot which went wayward. With the first, it was a bit negative but you'd think it had resulted in a goal for the opposition the way it's been portrayed and certainly not as bad imo as we retained the ball, as O'hares passback to their keeper.
He clearly got injured & was limping around so Robins took him off. His comments were admitting he wasn't sure if he was able to continue or not so took him off as we couldn't afford more injuries, not sure how you can read the statement any other way tbh?
Mark Robins:
“He got clattered on his knee, I think, and he was sort of feeling his knee but you can’t carry anyone, and really I made that decision on the back of him holding his leg. And with everything else that’s going on around the place, with people feeling things and a lot of fatigue going on, and people getting injuries and the worry around suspensions, we have to be very careful.”
On the question of whether he's good enough, on current evidence the answer is clearly no & I have no problem with questioning his performances.
Inventing that he was faking an injury & hauled off by the manager who's angry with him is kind of debunked though by the fact that as soon as he came off he was in conversation with the club doctor & Robins has chosen to select him regularly since.
I agree that he has played poorly, but he did play well in the last league game before Reading, at Millwall, so based on that you can see why MR picked him. You would be right though to think he may not pick him for the next game though. As manager, he and Adi Viveash will make their decisions on what they feel is best for the team, regardless of what we think (can't believe they'll allow SBT to txt a team to them in advance - although would be fun in deciding who to blame if we lost a game due to Dabo's performance in Centre midfield!)
There is always room for sentiment when your clubs history has been as depressing and shit as ours..these people helped turn the club around, the club we all thought would go bust and into non league... There's always room for sentiment
Play him or not, we can still have some respect for the young lad
Robins keeps picking himAgain it’s bad man management
Correct robins also now plays players with injuriesCan we not just sum it up with the following...
He was fantastic the last 3 seasons, however He's struggling to make the jump, and doesnt seem to be a championship player.
His heads gone, hence not showing for the ball, bottling tackles etc, so robins needs to take some blame as to constantly picking him
I agree that he has played poorly, but he did play well in the last league game before Reading, at Millwall, so based on that you can see why MR picked him. You would be right though to think he may not pick him for the next game though. As manager, he and Adi Viveash will make their decisions on what they feel is best for the team, regardless of what we think (can't believe they'll allow SBT to txt a team to them in advance - although would be fun in deciding who to blame if we lost a game due to Dabo's performance in Centre midfield!)
I was surprised when Allen was left out for Shipley but perhaps Robins feels the team is more balanced with someone who is left footedThink what's baffling the games after Wycombe and before Millwall. Allen had his best few games and played well by general consensus.
So it's baffling how Robins continues to choose Shipley over Allen.
Can we not just sum it up with the following...
He was fantastic the last 3 seasons, however He's struggling to make the jump, and doesnt seem to be a championship player.
His heads gone, hence not showing for the ball, bottling tackles etc, so robins needs to take some blame as to constantly picking him
He was adequate last 3 years. And sometimes fantastic in momentsCan we not just sum it up with the following...
He was fantastic the last 3 seasons, however He's struggling to make the jump, and doesnt seem to be a championship player.
His heads gone, hence not showing for the ball, bottling tackles etc, so robins needs to take some blame as to constantly picking him
He was adequate last 3 years. And sometimes fantastic in moments
He's got to go now. Good servant to club and wish him well. But overrated.
Did you just say Shipley was fantastic the last three seasons? officially give up
Shipley should absolutely be taken out of the side right now but this notion that he gets a free pass being posted on a 4 page thread ripping the shit out of him is batshit. Same energy as all the people shouting 'I'm being silenced' from their national newspaper column.He was an average player in a very good league 1 side now he's exposed as a shite player in a shite championship side. Bloke offers absolutely nothing and gets a free pass from most fans cos he's "one of our own". Best thing about him being binned off will mean that shite Allez Allez song stops as well!
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I think its just the possibility of a goal he gets the nod over AllenThink what's baffling the games after Wycombe and before Millwall. Allen had his best few games and played well by general consensus.
So it's baffling how Robins continues to choose Shipley over Allen.
I agree with this, Shipley has a goal in him , Doncaster last year he was dog shite the whole match got substituted but he scored a vital goal.I think its just the possibility of a goal he gets the nod over Allen
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