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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,226
clint van damme said:
I don't agree on that Harry to be honest.
Against Derby it was clear the game was turning against us and he failed to make changes and we conceded, it was only then that he changed it and fortunately we got an equaliser.

Same today, you could see the game starting to turn, and as I posted earlier, when Windass had that shot that Wilson saved that should have triggered the changes.
But overall, I'm happy with where we are, still got a long battle on our hands to stay up but we've been doing OK but today was a very bad day at the office.
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Fair enough Clint, but surely playing 2 up front (which a lot had called for) doesn't suggest he was playing for a draw or being negative. Giles aside, I'm not sure how he could have set up with a more attacking line up.
 

Barnsley

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,227
oscillatewildly said:
Apologies for our occasional roasters.
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I love it pal, I’m a despicable bästard myself.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,228
cc84cov said:
We wasn’t punching mate they was awful we’re just so negative in the way we set up
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It didn't appear too negative from the formation we started with. Admittedly I didn't watch or tune into a commentary - just occasionally followed updates on the BBC match page. Were we wasteful (yet again) with chances or did Westwood have a blinder?
Anyway, I won't be making another one of these predictions in a hurry anytime soon.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,229
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Fair enough Clint, but surely playing 2 up front (which a lot had called for) doesn't suggest he was playing for a draw or being negative. Giles aside, I'm not sure how he could have set up with a more attacking line up.
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I'm not saying he was playing for a draw but it was clear the game was turning and something needed changing.
Giles was the obvious one but I also think e could have pushed O'Hare nearer the strikers, 9though I realise that can create it's own problem defensively in that 3 man midfield).

I admit there are mitigating circumstances as Robins alluded to in his post match interview.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,230
oscillatewildly said:
It didn't appear too negative from the formation we started with. Admittedly I didn't watch or tune into a commentary - just occasionally followed updates on the BBC match page. Were we wasteful (yet again) with chances or did Westwood have a blinder?
Anyway, I won't be making another one of these predictions in a hurry anytime soon.
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He kept the wing backs too far back
 

Otis

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,231
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Can’t lie, watched the game in the changing rooms after a rugger game. We looked shit, and got shithoused. It’s one of those.

A lot of injuries/suspensions, I’m not massively surprised by the result. Disappointed of course.
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Same here. I was expecting a defeat before the game kicked off. I just think missing both Hamer and Kelly as well, was too much of a gap to fill.

I am disappointed, but not at all angry.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,232
Shame, too many ikey players out, we weren't embarrassed and the bonus is that the other results ran for us
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,233
I still can't quite believe we conspired to lose to a club whose players are just going through the motions due to not being paid properly.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,234
Liquid Gold said:
I still can't quite believe we conspired to lose to a club whose players are just going through the motions due to not being paid properly.
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Nah they’re a class team according to some on here.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,235
I wish Robins just went for it a bit more. Having 2 up front was pretty much the best option based on the central midfield issue but a 4-4-2 would have been more attacking with Giles especially. Both Sam and Dabo have been pretty ineffective going forward in the last few games. In all fairness today’s goal was a mess from the crap clearance by Wilson, a silly foul in a wide position by Leo for the free kick and shit marking for their goal. But it’s cost us ultimately.

Anyway, it is what it is and we’ve played a shit load of games in a short period. We’ve picked up valuable points and still in a decent position to kick on after Xmas. Hopefully for Stoke we have Godden back in the starting line-up and we know Hamer will be back after a breather.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,236
I don't think it can be ignored that when an opposition scores against us, the general comments on the match threads are always:

'There you go.'
'Been coming.'

etc etc

It is always obvious what is happening and the management is rarely proactive in tackling it.
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,237
riyadhskyblue said:
Sadly 3 points in the maximum you get per game in soccerball
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They only made it up to 3 points to make it easier after I left.
I did lots of Canadian soccerball when I got here
 
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cc84cov

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,238
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I don't think it can be ignored that when an opposition scores against us, the general comments on the match threads are always:

'There you go.'
'Been coming.'

etc etc

It is always obvious what is happening and the management is rarely proactive in tackling it.
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It has been coming we’ve rode our luck for me he’s too negative today Pulis who’s clearly experienced at the level and higher made the change won the game it’s not a coincidence,how Giles has been sat on the bench this long is beyond me,wolves clearly know what he’s got hence the 5 year contract
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,239
cc84cov said:
We’ve scored 1 goal & got 3 points from

Derby
Huddersfield
Luton
Sheffield Wednesday
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3 of them were away
 
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johnwillomagic

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,240
No they weren't we were at home to both Luton & Huddersfield!
 

NortonSkyBlue

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,241
cc84cov said:
It has been coming we’ve rode our luck for me he’s too negative today Pulis who’s clearly experienced at the level and higher made the change won the game it’s not a coincidence,how Giles has been sat on the bench this long is beyond me,wolves clearly know what he’s got hence the 5 year contract
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When he signed his Wolves contract you filed that one away to use. Well done
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,242
johnwillomagic said:
No they weren't we were at home to both Luton & Huddersfield!
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2 out of 3 ain’t bad
 
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cc84cov

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,243
riyadhskyblue said:
When he signed his Wolves contract you filed that one away to use. Well done
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I’ve said since Pretty much 2-3 games in for me he’s better than McCallum even at LWB we’ve missed his outlet massively
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,244
They won from a set piece, a set piece needlessly conceded when the ball should have been all the way up the pitch from the keeper... Pulis didn't change the game to win it, he got the win from a set piece by our very own mistake... Then he proceeded to bring on an extra defender when 1-0 up.

I repeat... The ball should have been cleared up the pitch and not some smart bended lofted pass around the back of a forward...

As with alot of defeats this season, we gave it them
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,245
Johhny Blue said:
3 of them were away
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'Away' these days may as well be Memorial Park or Coundon Hall Park or even Prior Deram Walk at a tight squeeze.
Admittedly the last one still does retain an element of intimidation.
 
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Cov kid 55

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,246
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Bottom when we played them.
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Yep, but they looked a decent side to me, and their results since then have proved it.
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,247
Esoterica said:
This is not a new issue either. Our results away vs Bottom 6 in Robin's full seasons since his return:

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Most teams that finish top 6 in every league every year will lose a game or 2 away to the bottom 6.

Bottom 6 away in any league is hardly considered an easy fixture. Lol
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 19, 2020
  • #1,248
I just listened to the post match interview.

Robins was blaming the pitch the whole time. WTF.
 
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procdoc

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #1,249
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I just listened to the post match interview.

Robins was blaming the pitch the whole time. WTF.
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We were shit. But it’s not the end or the world chill out. You’re like a toddler
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #1,250
procdoc said:
We were shit. But it’s not the end or the world chill out. You’re like a toddler
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It's ok, I've already called childline.
 

Frostie

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #1,251
cc84cov said:
It has been coming we’ve rode our luck for me he’s too negative today Pulis who’s clearly experienced at the level and higher made the change won the game it’s not a coincidence
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We were on too when Pulis made the sub & then they scored from a set piece from our mistake just 2 minutes later. Not sure the sub (Rhodes) had even touched the ball so yes, it very much is a coincidence.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #1,252
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I just listened to the post match interview.

Robins was blaming the pitch the whole time. WTF.
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Poor excuse. The pitch didn’t stop SW getting 3 points. He got it tactically wrong but he will never blame himself. If we don’t start attacking a bit more we won’t score many more goals this season.
 

Otis

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #1,253
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Poor excuse. The pitch didn’t stop SW getting 3 points. He got it tactically wrong but he will never blame himself. If we don’t start attacking a bit more we won’t score many more goals this season.
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Kelly was missing, Hamer was missing, Godden has been missing. Put those three back in the team and we will score more goals.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #1,254
Otis said:
Kelly was missing, Hamer was missing, Godden has been missing. Put those three back in the team and we will score more goals.
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I’m actually a bit more hopefully against Stoke with Hamer coming in. We lack complete creativity without him. It may also see Godden start which would be good. I do hope we find a way to bring Giles in because he is a real attacking threat.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #1,255
AFCCOVENTRY said:
I’m actually a bit more hopefully against Stoke with Hamer coming in. We lack complete creativity without him. It may also see Godden start which would be good. I do hope we find a way to bring Giles in because he is a real attacking threat.
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it's obvious Hamer will start but for me the other 2 have to as well, even if Godden can only give us an hour
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #1,256
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I just listened to the post match interview.

Robins was blaming the pitch the whole time. WTF.
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Not that Dabo is up to speed yet, but on a lot of occasions he and McCallum were out by the touchline and instead of being able to take the ball in their stride, they had to stop and check in case the ball bobbled, which it often did. The pitch was crap - although I wouldn't blame the defeat on it, it did hinder our style of football more than them. Our defence was fine, we needed the front 2 to perform better (two had knocks during the game - and struggled - and Baka didn't turn up). Makes sense for MR to blame the pitch a bit, as turning on the players is daft after an unbeaten run. I'm sure he will look at tactics - although Stoke and Preston look like slugfests already (and being Mr Negative, I'd snap your hand for more than 1 point from the two games)
 
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Hobo

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #1,257
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Funnily enough he’s a striker, not that he wasn’t shit at that today
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With a responsibility to defend at set pieces. In modern football their isn't a player on the pitch who doesn't have defensive responsibilities.
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #1,258
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Not that Dabo is up to speed yet, but on a lot of occasions he and McCallum were out by the touchline and instead of being able to take the ball in their stride, they had to stop and check in case the ball bobbled, which it often did. The pitch was crap - although I wouldn't blame the defeat on it, it did hinder our style of football more than them. Our defence was fine, we needed the front 2 to perform better (two had knocks during the game - and struggled - and Baka didn't turn up). Makes sense for MR to blame the pitch a bit, as turning on the players is daft after an unbeaten run. I'm sure he will look at tactics - although Stoke and Preston look like slugfests already (and being Mr Negative, I'd snap your hand for more than 1 point from the two games)
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Not upto speed ? Dabo looks like he needs a rest
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #1,259
cc84cov said:
Not upto speed ? Dabo looks like he needs a rest
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That's what I meant to be honest. I'm sure he'll give him a break when we play Norwich in the cup, and hopefully a whole week off will help. I've just realised Stoke have a Cup Q final at home to Spurs on Wednesday (23rd) before they play us on 26th (so that is a bit of a bonus, in terms of them hopefully being a bit leggy)
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 20, 2020
  • #1,260
Sky Blue Harry H said:
That's what I meant to be honest. I'm sure he'll give him a break when we play Norwich in the cup, and hopefully a whole week off will help. I've just realised Stoke have a Cup Q final at home to Spurs on Wednesday (23rd) before they play us on 26th (so that is a bit of a bonus, in terms of them hopefully being a bit leggy)
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I would drop him and McCallum for Stoke
 
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