Shamima Begum Not Allowed Back. (2 Viewers)

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Oh my gosh

I apologise to Britain, says Shamima Begum's dad

That Britain no longer exists mr Ali - I’m so sorry

Good news she can go and live with her father then, he wants her sending here because he can’t be bothered with her and reading that it has been the case for a while

 

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[dancers lance]

That’s tragic 19 and lost 3 children before they were two

It turns out her version of God must work in mysterious ways also.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Seems to be a media campaign to support notion of bringing her back. BBC featured tweet about it by Diane Abbott but if you look at the replies they mostly say keep her out or what about M/C arena victims or tragedy could have been avoided if Begum had stayrd home etc.

Course empathy is a grown up character trait that needs some grace and growth that many haven’t learnt

 

[dancers lance]

Course empathy is a grown up character trait that needs some grace and growth that many haven’t learnt

Isn't empathy the ability to understand another persons feelings? Call me childish but I would find it hard to empathise with her expressed feelings regarding the children murdered in Manchester, perhaps I'll learn to some day.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Isn't empathy the ability to understand another persons feelings? Call me childish but I would find it hard to empathise with her expressed feelings regarding the children murdered in Manchester, perhaps I'll learn to some day.

Why would you want to empathise with her inhuman words about bombs killing innocent men women and children and a man blowing himself up around people leaving a music concert? I think you deliberately missed the point so well done

And empathy is about more than understanding someone’s feelings it is understanding a whole situation

 

[dancers lance]

Why would you want to empathise with her inhuman words about bombs killing innocent men women and children and a man blowing himself up around people leaving a music concert? I think you deliberately missed the point so well done

And empathy is about more than understanding someone’s feelings it is understanding a whole situation

Tell me what point I deliberately missed and I will be more than happy to address it, where you not implying she deserved empathy?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Tell me what point I deliberately missed and I will be more than happy to address it, where you not implying she deserved empathy?

Her dad was saying sorry to our country for making a mistake and asking for the country to forgive her and let her home and punish her if she made a mistake. You think at 15 she made decisions that she deserves to have suffered what she has suffered because she linked the deaths of innocent Syrian children to bombing to innocent British children in Manchester. I think she was wrong in her comparison but am suggesting those people who are happy for her to lose 3 children as a punishment for leaving the country at 15 and supporting IS aren’t showing empathy for her situation. Have you no empathy for her situation? See things from her perspective. Like I say you don’t have to and many people aren’t willing to cause they feel it condones what she’s done when it doesn’t it just shows more about them than her

 

[dancers lance]

Her dad was saying sorry to our country for making a mistake and asking for the country to forgive her and let her home and punish her if she made a mistake. You think at 15 she made decisions that she deserves to have suffered what she has suffered because she linked the deaths of innocent Syrian children to bombing to innocent British children in Manchester. I think she was wrong in her comparison but am suggesting those people who are happy for her to lose 3 children as a punishment for leaving the country at 15 and supporting IS aren’t showing empathy for her situation. Have you no empathy for her situation?

Not a jot, the Lord works in mysterious ways, you should know that Pete

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Not a jot, the Lord works in mysterious ways, you should know that Pete

Ok I don’t think he works in those kind of ways

 

[dancers lance]

Ok I don’t think he works in those kind of ways

I guess he was just having an off day when he decided to murder the entire population of Earth by drowning, my bad.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I guess he was just having an off day when he decided to murder the entire population of Earth by drowning, my bad.

I think that’s a myth my friend. I find that incredibly sad that you can’t walk in another’s shoes but we are all made differently

 

[dancers lance]

I think that’s a myth my friend. I find that incredibly sad that you can’t walk in another’s shoes but we are all made differently

A myth, aren't you a religious man?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

A myth, aren't you a religious man?

Course a myth is a story with a deep eternal truth. Lots of the bible and other holy books contain writing in the style of myth. Why would god wipe out human kind

 

[dancers lance]

Course a myth is a story with a deep eternal truth. Lots of the bible and other holy books contain writing in the style of myth. Why would god wipe out human kind

They contain writing in the style of bullshit artists, I don't believe in god for the same reasons you no longer believe in Father Christmas.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

They contain writing in the style of bullshit artists, I don't believe in god for the same reasons you no longer believe in Father Christmas.

That’s great but this discussion is about whether you can see life through another’s eyes and you aren’t willing to because ...... well I dunno

 

[The Lurker]

Sky blue Pete and grappa showing there true colours here. no wonder the country is fucked with cunts like these about. go and support shite like this. Pathetic

 

[The Lurker]

Her dad was saying sorry to our country for making a mistake and asking for the country to forgive her and let her home and punish her if she made a mistake. You think at 15 she made decisions that she deserves to have suffered what she has suffered because she linked the deaths of innocent Syrian children to bombing to innocent British children in Manchester. I think she was wrong in her comparison but am suggesting those people who are happy for her to lose 3 children as a punishment for leaving the country at 15 and supporting IS aren’t showing empathy for her situation. Have you no empathy for her situation? See things from her perspective. Like I say you don’t have to and many people aren’t willing to cause they feel it condones what she’s done when it doesn’t it just shows more about them than her

her dad is a isis sympathiser you twat! you really are a strange bloke. taking a side of a isis slag over your own country. it’s embarssing.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

her dad is a isis sympathiser you twat! you really are a strange bloke. taking a side of a isis slag over your own country. it’s embarssing.

He’s not that’s a different person and no I’m not you are using this black and white right and wrong nonsense that doesn’t work with nuance and complex cause it’s too hard and you fear where it will lead. That’s ok we’re all scared of things but be honest about it. She was 15 and groomed by a manipulative group to take an action that was madness. That you can only see an enemy is the tragedy here

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Sky blue Pete and grappa showing there true colours here. no wonder the country is fucked with cunts like these about. go and support shite like this. Pathetic

How does conpsssjon and the rule of law fuck up our country?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

her dad is a isis sympathiser you twat! you really are a strange bloke. taking a side of a isis slag over your own country. it’s embarssing.

Sharmeena Begum - Wikipedia

 

[Cov City Daytrader 87]

Pete you may want to go on Qmap.pub and type 2887 in the search term. What the Lurker and other concerned is this lady and the other I mentioned will most likely come back to this country and carry out attacks. Therefore we shouldn't be taken any chances.

 

[Captain Dart]

Her dad was saying sorry to our country for making a mistake and asking for the country to forgive her and let her home and punish her if she made a mistake. You think at 15 she made decisions that she deserves to have suffered what she has suffered because she linked the deaths of innocent Syrian children to bombing to innocent British children in Manchester. I think she was wrong in her comparison but am suggesting those people who are happy for her to lose 3 children as a punishment for leaving the country at 15 and supporting IS aren’t showing empathy for her situation. Have you no empathy for her situation? See things from her perspective. Like I say you don’t have to and many people aren’t willing to cause they feel it condones what she’s done when it doesn’t it just shows more about them than her

Her father lives in Bangladesh for most of the year. She can go live with him, and no don't expect any forgiveness from me I think tit for tat works better.

By BBC News reporter Ethirajan Anbarasan - who interviewed Ahmed Ali

Mr Ali was looking frail, anxious and worried. He was surprised to hear that we had come all the way from London to talk to him.

He preferred to speak in his native Bengali language than English and he sounded very worried about his daughter's future. He couldn't explain how she got radicalised. But at the same time he also questioned how British immigration allowed her to travel on someone else's passport.

Living far away from the media gaze, Mr Ali seems to be living a quiet life with his second wife in Dawrai, a picturesque village in the district of Sunamganj.

His house was surrounded by coconut and mango trees and lush green paddy fields. A single track road, most of it potholed dirt track, leads to the village. Chickens and other birds were chirping all the time.

 

[Grendel]

her dad is a isis sympathiser you twat! you really are a strange bloke. taking a side of a isis slag over your own country. it’s embarssing.

He isn’t. The removal of citizenship is a very very dangerous road to take and is the stuff of Orwellian nightmares.

I don’t want to go there. I agree there should be no assistance iffered to this individual in a dangerous war zone but not removal of liberty

 

[The Lurker]

my fault hands up. it was her friend who went with her dad who is the isis supporter

Amira Abase's dad filmed burning flag at protest admits attending | Daily Mail Online

if her dad is so worried why dont he invite her to where he lives?

 

[The Lurker]

And her Solictor is the one who represented the Lee Rigby killers. lovely man

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Her father lives in Bangladesh for most of the year. She can go live with him, and no don't expect any forgiveness from me I think tit for tat works better.

Absolutely entitled to that opinion

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

my fault hands up. it was her friend who went with her dad who is the isis supporter

Amira Abase's dad filmed burning flag at protest admits attending | Daily Mail Online

if her dad is so worried why dont he invite her to where he lives?

Good man lurker. Looks like her dad hasn’t really been around but fair play

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

He isn’t. The removal of citizenship is a very very dangerous road to take and is the stuff of Orwellian nightmares.

I don’t want to go there. I agree there should be no assistance iffered to this individual in a dangerous war zone but not removal of liberty

Yep I agree

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Pete you may want to go on Qmap.pub and type 2887 in the search term. What the Lurker and other concerned is this lady and the other I mentioned will most likely come back to this country and carry out attacks. Therefore we shouldn't be taken any chances.

We don’t avoid it by forgetting our principles I don’t think

 

[NorthernWisdom]

More civilised discussion from Lurker on this thread.

True colours eh...

 

[Nick]

A bullet would sort it.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

IS bride Shamima Begum appeals against loss of British citizenship by making rape claim

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

A bullet would sort it.

Literally, its like she'll say anything to try to get back, her lawyer is a scumbag too

 

[ajsccfc]

Woah, the modding on here is extreme

 

[Nick]

Well you know, shit needs doing!