skybluetony176
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The voting that animals aren’t sentient is part of the Brexit bill so it’s absolutely everything to do with Brexit.
The voting that animals aren’t sentient is part of the Brexit bill so it’s absolutely everything to do with Brexit.I'm against any decline in animal welfare, don't get me wrong. But would it have anything to do with Brexit? Our welfare standards are above most in the EU.
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But if we are considered to be a better country regarding animal welfare than most countries in the EU, our own rules relaxed or not, can't be any worse than the EU rules surely.It's an opportunity, having left, to set our own rules on such things. What we seem to want to do is relax them, rather than tighten them.
You talk so much nonsense its unreal. How are we considered above most EU countries for animal welfare then Tone?The voting that animals aren’t sentient is part of the Brexit bill so it’s absolutely everything to do with Brexit.
Well we seem to be in danger of heading there. And is, after years of raising standards in other countries by pushing for tighter rules, the opportunity to slip back, a good thing? Do we want to mirror US standards? Is that a good thing?But if we are considered to be a better country regarding animal welfare than most countries in the EU, our own rules relaxed or not, can't be any worse than the EU rules surely.
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Because we used to go further than the EU standards we were committed to as the bottom rung of the ladder. We haven’t transferred many of those standards into U.K. law setting the stage for a drop in standards. We actually lost our A rating last year as a direct consequence. You’ll have to look hard to find it though because the majority right wing pro Brexit press that like to pretend that they are a minority didn’t give it much coverage.You talk so much nonsense its unreal. How are we considered above most EU countries for animal welfare then Tone?
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Setting the stage for... but currently we are still ahead of most of the EU? Anything that may or may not happen is speculation.Because we used to go further than the EU standards we were committed to as the bottom rung of the ladder. We haven’t transferred many of those standards into U.K. law setting the stage for a drop in standards. We actually lost our A rating last year as a direct consequence. You’ll have to look hard to find it though because the majority right wing pro Brexit press that like to pretend that they are a minority didn’t give it much coverage.
Isn’t cod endangered? Or did I imagine that?
So there shouldn’t be an issue committing to the EU standards as a minimum standard then. Yet...Setting the stage for... but currently we are still ahead of most of the EU? Anything that may or may not happen is speculation.
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Don't think I'll ever been stepping off a plane in Greece or Spain as examples and thinking 'damn, I wish we treated our animals as well as these guys do'. But if you think we're heading that way, you crack on. I very much doubt it.So there shouldn’t be an issue committing to the EU standards as a minimum standard then. Yet...
Also worth noting that a lot of the issues facing British food exporters from Brexit is down to this unwillingness to commit to the EU standards as a minimum. So why is the government deliberately biting of our noses to spite our face? Can’t think of any other reason other than we’re lowering standards. Can you?
So why won’t the government commit to having a minimum standard in legislation that guarantees we meet the EU standards as a minimum?Don't think I'll ever been stepping off a plane in Greece or Spain as examples and thinking 'damn, I wish we treated our animals as well as these guys do'. But if you think we're heading that way, you crack on. I very much doubt it.
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Tony mate, honestly you are a very tiring human being, I am done. You win.So why won’t the government commit to having a minimum standard in legislation that guarantees we meet the EU standards as a minimum?
On economics alone the argument is strong to do so as we’ve learned the last 3 months.
Aye aye, knew that'd poke Mr Brexiteer. What's pretty much bollocks is defending a decline in animal welfare standards to protect your beloved Brexit.
But if we are considered to be a better country regarding animal welfare than most countries in the EU, our own rules relaxed or not, can't be any worse than the EU rules surely.
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Tony thinks we're going to start barbecuing people's pets in the street now we've left the EU I think.Yes we are better not great but a lot better
Tony thinks we're going to start barbecuing people's pets in the street now we've left the EU I think.
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Congrats! I'm also house hunting. Offer rejected today annoyingly.I just had an offer on a house accepted! It's taken 9 months but we'll be moving to Wales this summer.
A little bit closer to the Ricoh, so maybe there more often.
Yeah, unfortunately that commitment is reliant on small abattoirs staying open and it’s small abattoirs that are taking the brunt of the Brexit damage to food exports.There's already a commitment to end live long-distance driving to abattoirs. Time will tell... but as always I'm optimistic without being Panglossian.
I really don’t but if you feel that you need to fabricate that for the sake of one up man ship you knock yourself out.Tony thinks we're going to start barbecuing people's pets in the street now we've left the EU I think.
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No idea, but that would be a food standards issue rather than an animal welfare one surely?It’s the chlorinated chicken nonsense that’s the issue is it?
Tony thinks we're going to start barbecuing people's pets in the street now we've left the EU I think.
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No idea, but that would be a food standards issue rather than an animal welfare one surely?
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Not really. Chlorinated Chicken could spend it’s whole life swimming in raw sewage and still be allowed to be sold once chlorinated. Hence why the US has one of the highest salmonella poisoning rates in the world. Animal welfare is intrinsically linked to food standards.No idea, but that would be a food standards issue rather than an animal welfare one surely?
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Aww look. Grendull has some fwends so he’s showing off.The Tonester is an arsehole. I’ve bothered to remove the ignore button for a brief period - why I have no idea.
He decides on the room mood and then copies and pastes articles to try and sound knowledgeable and supportive of the room. The only reason this is remotely amusing is he’s read the mood wrong but good old Tone will just now in Obtuse style plough on to the bitter end.
I’ve never seen the point of the ignore button but the likes of Obtuse the Tonester and PVA have changed my mind
Frankly they are all as thick as fuck but see google copy and paste as a way to support their intellect and gain some credibility
Obtuse always read the mood room wrong but these two hitch to the view and then seek to gain credibility from constantly copying and pasting inane rubbish
The contribution of these two bozos over the last 48 hours has been beyond absurd. Even when people parody their behaviours to make them see their absurdity they don’t see it.
The only other one I ignore is O Day as he is a delusional fantasist who believes he is amusing but is about as funny as having your leg sawn off without anaesthestic
Fairly sure DOD has me on ignore, probably for excessive 'weird flexing' or a 'piss stained Y-front energy'
Ooo. You’re hard.I’ve never seen the point of the ignore button but the likes of Obtuse the Tonester and PVA have changed my mind
Frankly they are all as thick as fuck but see google copy and paste as a way to support their intellect and gain some credibility
Obtuse always read the mood room wrong but these two hitch to the view and then seek to gain credibility from constantly copying and pasting inane rubbish
The contribution of these two bozos over the last 48 hours has been beyond absurd. Even when people parody their behaviours to make them see their absurdity they don’t see it.
The only other one I ignore is O Day as he is a delusional fantasist who believes he is amusing but is about as funny as having your leg sawn off without anaesthestic
The shit you’ll talk in an attempt to be popular. You’re like that weird bloke who used to live near you who thought he was cool for showing off to the local kids.A word of advice. If you cannot find the ignore button but wish no more to be exposed by the intellectual giant known as The Tonester just stay on ccfc related threads
It’s an alternate way to avoid our resident genius
The lesser cockney spotted O Day may occasionally prowl for attempted credibility but chances are you will miss him
The shit you’ll talk in an attempt to be popular. You’re like that weird bloke who used to live near you who thought he was cool for showing off to the local kids.
You’re an actual grown man. You do realise that don’t you.Oh Tony you’ve got me bang to rights m
I spend my time on here googling to find causes that make me popular - I’m not genuine to see - I used to be a big Tory then voted UKIP and then joined the left
The Tonester has found me out everyone
I’m off to shag a flag
You’re an actual grown man. You do realise that don’t you.
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