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clint van damme

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  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #386
Nick said:
What's the percentage? If it's large then I assume over half?
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Now your being silly
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #387
SBT said:
Yeah for a law enforcement agency with sweeping authoritarian powers it’s pretty fucking big.

If it was 2% of BBC, Pfizer or World Economic Forum employees being accused of sexual assault you probably wouldn’t sleep for days in outrage.
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Oh the way you are going on I thought it was 50% plus? With your pathetic "MET Police: Not so bad are they" type nonsense.

Of course it is wrong, any person in the job found to be guilty of any crime should receive a much heavier sentence and happily would just use a bullet for the recent one. It is nowhere near enough a high enough percentage to group them all together.

Reminds me of Tommy Robinson going on about grooming gangs and those bloody Muslims all touching kids.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #388
Nick said:
Is it a large percentage or not?
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Yes it is, and we're only seeing the figures for sex crimes.
Imagine what the overall figure is.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #389
Nick said:
Is it actually a large percentage though?
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Yes. Compare it to another profession, any profession, let alone a profession where your job is to uphold the law. Let’s remember that the figures (that also seemed to have gone up overnight from what was being said just yesterday) in regards to the Met are specifically to sexual and domestic abuse. They don’t include other acts of violence, corruption or involvement in other types of crime. The statistics are gobsmacking only made worse when you consider what their profession is.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #390
clint van damme said:
Now your being silly
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“The Metropolitan Police: Maybe they’re not so bad”
#NotAllCops
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I just assumed it was a high percentage to justify this nonsense.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #391
Nick said:
Oh the way you are going on I thought it was 50% plus? With your pathetic "MET Police: Not so bad are they" type nonsense.

Of course it is wrong, any person in the job found to be guilty of any crime should receive a much heavier sentence and happily would just use a bullet for the recent one. It is nowhere near enough a high enough percentage to group them all together.

Reminds me of Tommy Robinson going on about grooming gangs and those bloody Muslims all touching kids.
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You’ve gone from “hang the rapists” to “1000 claims of sexual assault isn’t THAT bad” in less than 24 hours, it’s honestly a little awe-inspiring to see one man’s brain become so completely broken by the internet.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #392
skybluetony176 said:
Yes. Compare it to another profession, any profession, let alone a profession where your job is to uphold the law. Let’s remember that the figures (that also seemed to have gone up overnight from what was being said) in regards to the Met are specifically to sexual and domestic abuse. They don’t include other acts of violence, corruption or involvement in other types of crime. The statistics are gobsmacking only made worse when you consider what their profession is.
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Where can you find the stats to find crimes based on occupation?

I have said throughout, the punishment should be much, much steeper for somebody in a position of power taking advantage of it for crime.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #393
Nick said:
I just assumed it was a high percentage to justify this nonsense.
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It is high. If you ring the MET to report something you've got a less than 1 in 50 chance of a wrong un turning up at your door.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #394
SBT said:
You’ve gone from “hang the rapists” to “1000 claims of sexual assault isn’t THAT bad” in less than 24 hours, it’s honestly a little awe-inspiring to see one man’s brain become so completely broken by the internet.
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It’s being reported as 1600 claims against 1000 officers now. From a pool of 34000 officers.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #395
SBT said:
You’ve gone from “hang the rapists” to “1000 claims of sexual assault isn’t THAT bad” in less than 24 hours, it’s honestly a little awe-inspiring to see one man’s brain become so completely broken by the internet.
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I haven't said the crimes aren't that bad. I have said that it isn't a high percentage. At least quote me properly if you want to go on about brain power.

Like I said, change a couple of words using your logic and you are full on Tommy Robinson.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #396
Nick said:
I haven't said the crimes aren't that bad. I have said that it isn't a high percentage. At least quote me properly if you want to go on about brain power.

Like I said, change a couple of words using your logic and you are full on Tommy Robinson.
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It's nothing to do with Tommy Robinson, the METs own figures paint an horrendous picture, and I think that's just the tip of the iceberg but that's just my opinion.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #397
Nick said:
I haven't said the crimes aren't that bad. I have said that it isn't a high percentage. At least quote me properly if you want to go on about brain power.

Like I said, change a couple of words using your logic and you are full on Tommy Robinson.
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Quiet everyone! The guy who likes to post about gypsies and Romanian beggar women is here with an important lesson about discrimination.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #398
other professions may see someone called "bastard dave" as a red flag and not someone you'd give a gun to
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #399
David O'Day said:
other professions may see someone called "bastard dave" as a red flag and not someone you'd give a gun to
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They really should have watched Max & Paddy.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #400
Nick said:
Like I said, change a couple of words using your logic and you are full on Tommy Robinson.
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Can you give me an example of how changing a couple of my words makes me look “full on Tommy Robinson”? Bonus points if you can avoid it resembling one of your old posts about minorities in the process.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #401
David O'Day said:
other professions may see someone called "bastard dave" as a red flag and not someone you'd give a gun to
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The MET are taking this that seriously that a) it was another force who caught him after a victim went to them because she thought the MET were useless.
B) as of this morning he was still in the MET.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #402
SBT said:
Can you give me an example of how changing a couple of my words makes me look “full on Tommy Robinson”? Bonus points if you can avoid it resembling one of your old posts about minorities in the process.
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It's not hard, just change it to grooming gangs.

And yeah, romanian women begging, nigerian people scamming via emails and gypsies thriving and leaving shit behind.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #403
clint van damme said:
The MET are taking this that seriously that a) it was another force who caught him after a victim went to them because she thought the MET were useless.
B) as of this morning he was still in the MET.
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How the hell is he still in the MET? Is there some shit process where they have to go through to fuck him off?

Isn't being a rapist enough for somebody to instantly get rid?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #404
Nick said:
Where can you find the stats to find crimes based on occupation?

I have said throughout, the punishment should be much, much steeper for somebody in a position of power taking advantage of it for crime.
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You can look at rates for the population as a whole. It’s far less than the Met in isolation. For instance there was a reported 850000 domestic abuse claims and 773000 sexual abuse claims in 2020 in England and Wales from a population of over 59M people. The Met is bucking the general trend by about 30%. That’s also before you factor in that domestic abuse especially but also sexual abuse skyrocketed in 2020 during the lockdowns. So in normal times the rate will be higher again. It’s also pretty clear that the Met specifically has circled the wagon around at least 2 officers and protected them from normal scrutiny so had they worked in any other profession would have been locked up long ago and many women wouldn’t be victims and at least one would still be alive.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #405
Nick said:
How the hell is he still in the MET? Is there some shit process where they have to go through to fuck him off?

Isn't being a rapist enough for somebody to instantly get rid?
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Proceedings starting today, this came to light in December.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #406
Nick said:
It's not hard, just change it to grooming gangs.
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“2% of grooming gang members being accused of sexual assault is a worrying number”
— Tommy Robinson
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #407
clint van damme said:
Proceedings starting today, this came to light in December.
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Not even suspended? wow.
 

Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #408
I'm hoping this dirty little c**t of a coward gets annihilate in prison and we learn of his death very soon.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #409
Nick said:
Not even suspended? wow.
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Think they stopped paying him
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #410
Bugsy said:
I'm hoping this dirty little c**t of a coward gets annihilate in prison and we learn of his death very soon.
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Slippery slope dehumanising individuals
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #411
Sky Blue Pete said:
Slippery slope dehumanising individuals
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He does not appear to have demonstrated too many traits I would associate as human.

Shall we let him have free TV and B and B for the rest of his life - or perhaps let him out at some point as a reformed character
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #412
Grendel said:
He does not appear to have demonstrated too many traits I would associate as human.

Shall we let him have free TV and B and B for the rest of his life - or perhaps let him out at some point as a reformed character
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Not saying anything other than it’s a slippery slope to dehumanise. Given his crimes he will get a long sentence but is likely to be up for parole before he dies. Thems just the facts
 

Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #413
Sky Blue Pete said:
Slippery slope dehumanising individuals
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that's exactly what he has done to his victims Pete, that's what needs to be done to these kind of criminals, they dehumanising therefore they need to be dehumanised
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #414
Bugsy said:
that's exactly what he has done to his victims Pete, that's what needs to be done to these kind of criminals, they dehumanising therefore they need to be dehumanised
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He has
We don’t have to it’s a choice and it’s a bad one looking through history
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #415
Grendel said:
He does not appear to have demonstrated too many traits I would associate as human.

Shall we let him have free TV and B and B for the rest of his life - or perhaps let him out at some point as a reformed character
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Whatever standard of care he’ll be getting in prison (I personally doubt any B&B offering a similar service would get very high ratings) he certainly won’t be getting it for “free”.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #416

West Yorkshire Police officer charged with sexual assault

PC Lee Parker is also accused of outraging public decency, West Yorkshire Police says.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #417
David O'Day said:

West Yorkshire Police officer charged with sexual assault

PC Lee Parker is also accused of outraging public decency, West Yorkshire Police says.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Oops
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #418
I don't think it necessarily needs to be an anti-police thread, because it goes without saying that many of them do a really amazing job. That being said, the numbers we are seeing here are really worrying, it's really high isn't it? As for this bloke, should never be allowed to walk to streets again. It is bad enough as it is, but to be in a position of trust like that and behave in this way over and over again - it's absolutely sickening.

Not sure if he will get protection in prison or if he'll get thrown to the wolves, but he certainly doesn't deserve the former.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #419
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I don't think it necessarily needs to be an anti-police thread, because it goes without saying that many of them do a really amazing job. That being said, the numbers we are seeing here are really worrying, it's really high isn't it? As for this bloke, should never be allowed to walk to streets again. It is bad enough as it is, but to be in a position of trust like that and behave in this way over and over again - it's absolutely sickening.

Not sure if he will get protection in prison or if he'll get thrown to the wolves, but he certainly doesn't deserve the former.
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He’ll probably be with other sex offenders so unlikely to mix with non sex offenders. Tends to be deliberate in prison to do that as it’s easier than putting them with other prisoners who like to have a go at sex offenders. So unless there’s an incarcerated sex offender who has a particular hatred for police officers it’s unlikely. Most sex offenders tend to keep themselves to themselves and their heads down in prison and generally are very little trouble.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2023
  • #420
skybluetony176 said:
He’ll probably be with other sex offenders so unlikely to mix with non sex offenders. Tends to be deliberate in prison to do that as it’s easier than putting them with other prisoners who like to have a go at sex offenders. So unless there’s an incarcerated sex offender who has a particular hatred for police officers it’s unlikely. Most sex offenders tend to keep themselves to themselves and their heads down in prison and generally are very little trouble.
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Correct
 
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