What does that even mean, it's just nonsense.
How would you have identified this MET officer in order to dish out this treatment to him?
People saying that if one in ten men are wronguns but the other nine do nothing about it, what the fuck do they want me to do? Should I drive round tonight and start laying into any man that happens to be walking close to a woman?
Yet again, you have some people giving it the "If you arent doing anything you are part of the problem".
Obviously, once they are identified.
Don't worry about it. Typical woke nonsense on twitter. Men are by far the most oppressed group in society, especially white men.
HaahahahHahHahahHHHHHaaaaaajahaDon't worry about it. Typical woke nonsense on twitter. Men are by far the most oppressed group in society, especially white men.
which is a typical male response to be honest, dish out violence after the fact to make men feel better about themselves, but the female victim is still dead.
Amongst all the hysteria, which i understand given the nature of the crime, there are people trying to have a sensible debate to try and make things safer for women going forward to prevent this type of crime, you only have to look at some of the responses on here to see that's going to be an uphill struggle.
It's this "every man needs to be part of the solution".
Not many people are actually saying what the solution is though or what they want men to do.
Probably have marches around the country or something or a clap at 5PM on a Saturday.
You can't turn the TV on for toxity about everything, of course this is fucking abhorrent but the way things are presented nowadays is that everything is about blaming certain people, taking sides, trying to get a reaction.
I really wouldn't worry about it, you've shown you're considerate if you hang back or cross the road as you said, that's all.It's this "every man needs to be part of the solution".
Not many people are actually saying what the solution is though or what they want men to do.
Probably have marches around the country or something or a clap at 5PM on a Saturday.
You can't turn the TV on for toxity about everything, of course this is fucking abhorrent but the way things are presented nowadays is that everything is about blaming certain people, taking sides, trying to get a reaction.
there was a simple suggestion put forward regarding crossing the road, (not a solution but just a little thing to help), look at the reaction.
There was a 10 percent increase in the number of women killed by a partner in this country last year, how would you like that statistic presented?
So what are normal men meant to do?
Of course this crime is absolutely horrible, how many people were stabbed around the country yesterday?
How can I make things safer for women at night? I don't follow women for the sake of it, as I have said I have always tried to not seem dodgy but I think the more I do it the more I feel it and probably look it.
Getting a bit fed up of all of the "If you aren't the solution you are the problem" type stuff, I was "racist" last year and now I am conspiring to rape women if you listen to all of the shit over the news, radio, TV etc.
I really wouldn't worry about it, you've shown you're considerate if you hang back or cross the road as you said, that's all.
Yes it's a statistic but what am I meant to do with it? How many people sell drugs? How many people shoot or stab? I don't do those either.
I have said I crossed the road sometimes anyway or took a different route so I didn't seem dodgy but feel more dodgy trying not to be dodgy.
probably more people were stabbed so let's ignore this then. You've got a common theme running through your arguments.
Rise for the nurses, I didn't get one.
Woman murdered, bet more people got stabbed yesterday.
It's just ridiculous whatabouttery.
maybe there's nothing you can do about it, but not being so dismissive might help.
Naturally I cross the road when walking behind a lone female at night? Is it not a natural reaction for a man to do that out of courtesy?
I'm being dismissive of the narrative that "If you aren't doing anything you are part of the problem" type shite.
You presented a stat about a partner killing women, it's fucking awful. I have no doubt that is down to lockdown too and any form of domestic abuse is disgusting. The stat is given to me like it's my fault just because I'm a man.
He is the one suspected of the actual act though isn’t he so it’s natural focus would be on him.I do find it odd that all the focus is on the man though when there was a woman that’s been arrested for assisting (to my knowldge)
You’re right. Has it been released what the woman was arrested for? I assumed it was just assistingHe is the one suspected of the actual act though isn’t he so it’s natural focus would be on him.
The woman is out on bail, suspicion of assisting an offenderYou’re right. Has it been released what the woman was arrested for? I assumed it was just assisting
I don't feel like any of it's my fault so i'm not sure why you would.
But we are part of society and when incidents happen they highlight certain problems that we as a society have. It's no point in burying are heads in the sand and pretending everything's OK.
Bit condescending that, and stereotypical in terms of both men and women.
I'd love to see your evidence for that statement.
Nobody is saying its OK though.
Because if you watch the news, listen to it, go on the internet it's just being driven that it's a man's problem.
I'm just pointing out there is shit loads wrong with society, multiple people stabbed yesterday in Coventry.
No it is how women say they feel.
I guess you know better fella
Yes but then some women may take a bloke approaching to ask if they were OK as harassment....I think there’s a fair argument that if we “good ones” can normalise respectful behaviour, including asking if a girl is OK if she looks like she wants out, crossing the road, not leering and shouting, etc. Then women don’t have to worry quite so much on a daily basis and it’s easier for them to spot the true wronguns.
why are you conflating the two issues?
Men killing women is one problem.
People getting stabbed in Coventry is another. One doesn't negate the seriousness of the other.
There was a 10 percent increase in the number of women killed by a partner in this country last year, how would you like that statistic presented?
Yes but then some women may take a bloke approaching to ask if they were OK as harassment....
I was just pointing out a statistic to you, much like you did about the rate of men killing partners as if I was behind it.
I am fully aware there are wronguns, I am fully aware with lockdown there's no doubt that will have increased.
Im far from saying "Women should stay in" and all that shite. I am just saying people going on about how its a problem for men to deal with.
but the thread is about violence against women. The statistic I brought up has a bit more relevance than talking about city centre stabbings.
I'm not sure how women can do anything to make themselves feel safer if they don't involve men in the conversation and that means all men unless potential murders and abusers are going to own up and step forward.
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