The elite may be at the same level.
But the average has gone backwards.
Sub 30 for 5mile & sub 60min for 10 is the standard.
Can't do it , you ain't a runner.
I aint a runner thenThe elite may be at the same level.
But the average has gone backwards.
Sub 30 for 5mile & sub 60min for 10 is the standard.
Can't do it , you ain't a runner.
I aint a runner then
Isn't that just a case of it being more popular making the mean average slower? My club has a hell of a lot of middle aged slower runners who've joined over the last few years but the best are still as fast as anyone who came before them I wouldve thought
Agreed easier to break 30 than 60.Thats bullshit.
I've never broke 60mins for 10 miles (although i'm racing a 10 miler in November and hope to be thereabouts).
I agree they are good club benchmarks (although 30 for 5 miles is certainly easier than 60 for 10), but they aren't the be all and end all.... i've known guys running 57mins for 10 miles when i was running 62:30, and i would hammer them over other distances and terrains.
Agreed easier to break 30 than 60.
But a male runner does both. Jogging will do neither.
27:10 my best for 5 milesThats bullshit.
I've never broke 60mins for 10 miles (although i'm racing a 10 miler in November and hope to be thereabouts).
I agree they are good club benchmarks (although 30 for 5 miles is certainly easier than 60 for 10), but they aren't the be all and end all.... i've known guys running 57mins for 10 miles when i was running 62:30, and i would hammer them over other distances and terrains.
You need to be out running before 7am to avoid it. I made the mistake of leaving it until 8am the other week and it was already 30c by 9am.I'm finding it so tough to run in this heat at the moment. Did Draycote twice yesterday and just ran out of energy around the second lap
100% got Leeds marathon flashbacks as well which didn't help. London then Leeds two weeks later,both in mid 20s heat have broken me and I've completely lost my running mojo
I'm finding it so tough to run in this heat at the moment. Did Draycote twice yesterday and just ran out of energy around the second lap
100% got Leeds marathon flashbacks as well which didn't help. London then Leeds two weeks later,both in mid 20s heat have broken me and I've completely lost my running mojo
In for Manchester Marathon next year.
Never ran more that 15k but looking forward to it. Want a time to aim for though.
I can do 10k in about 52 mins atm. What’s a good time to aim for for next April?
Very helpful! All the best with your training.Nice, I'm doing Manchester too! And it will also be my first marathon.
This site gives you equivalents for what you could do at other distances, based on your time in a distance:
V.O2 Running Calculator
An easy-to-use training platform for athletes and coaches, including the science and formulas of legendary coach Dr. Jack Daniels.vdoto2.com
52 min 10k says 3.58 for a marathon.
I'm currently 47min for 10k. That calculator says 3.36 for a marathon. I think 3.40 is a good target for me, but I plan on training seriously for it and really want to get to 3.30
Did the Snowdon Uphill race on friday night.
All a bit of an anti-climax really.
Weather was so bad that the race finished halfway up, rather than going up to the summit. And rightly so.... the wind was atrocious, a crosswind that you had to fight against to stay in a straight line.
Finished 12th overall..... but unfortunately i was unable to retain my v40 title..... was overtaken in the last couple of hundred metres by another v40 soA
Very helpful! All the best with your training.
I think I’m gonna aim for 4 hours to start. But I think when I’m consistently training I can aim for 3.30.
Very interesting. I've just been and done a 5k tonight as I need to start a plan. Managed it in 24 mins just over.Personally i think those kind of guides are ok for up to half marathon.
5km up to half marathon have similar training principles.
But there's such a difference to then go up to marathon, to almost make it a different sport.
If you're doing 10km in 52mins then it would be very impressive to go under 4 hours for a marathon.
Although if you train seriously for a marathon then your 10km time will no doubt come down a bundle as well.
Personally i think those kind of guides are ok for up to half marathon.
5km up to half marathon have similar training principles.
But there's such a difference to then go up to marathon, to almost make it a different sport.
If you're doing 10km in 52mins then it would be very impressive to go under 4 hours for a marathon.
Although if you train seriously for a marathon then your 10km time will no doubt come down a bundle as well.
Very interesting. I've just been and done a 5k tonight as I need to start a plan. Managed it in 24 mins just over.
I know you are big into your running trav's what would you suggest as a training plan?
I know some say the bare minimum you should be running a week for a marathon is 4 times a week.
Yep thats the plan.Is it Manchester you're dong? So thats April next year?
Start now. Not 14 weeks before.
Start getting out and running easy pace, regularly........ slowly building up the time you spend on your feet.
Once you can get out, as you say, 4 times a week for a reasonable amount of time, then can start to think about making one of your runs a "long run" each week.
Get as much foundation of mileage that you can in the time between now and the race.
(there's obviously the consideration that you can't just go from running say 15 miles a week to 50 miles a week in one jump, unless you fancy being injured for weeks on end! Which is why its best to start building as early as possible).
How much are you running now? I think you’re a bit younger than me but I managed to injure myself for around a year by increasing the distance too quickly.Yep thats the plan.
Following a plan on the internet that says it can get you up to marathon distance in 18 weeks. Its essentially 3 shorter runs in the week of around 5k to start, and then a long run on a saturday which is double the length of the shorter run.
Will see how I go with it. After 12 weeks I should be running about 50km a week.
Before I had this booked and was looking to do it I was running a 5k and a 10k a week, whilst also playing a fair bit of football.How much are you running now? I think you’re a bit younger than me but I managed to injured myself for around a year by increasing the distance too quickly.
What would you recommend Travs. Maybe up the mileage a few KM each week?I personally wouldn't follow a 12/14/18 week training plan out of a magazine or internet article. Too much of a jump in mileage too soon.
To go from running the odd 5km and 10km each week, to regular 30 mile weeks within 3 months....... you might get away with it if you're particularly well conditioned...... but most people will suffer.
Going to back up his point because I did essentially the same as you're planning to do for Manchester in April. I played footie once a week and did the odd 5-10k run, and my training started first week of January. I got ill just before Christmas so couldn't run for a month then went into a 16-week training plan and ended up with my hamstrings going 3 weeks before the marathon. Although I had some underlying problems, the massage therapist put it mostly down to overuse/over training.What would you recommend Travs. Maybe up the mileage a few KM each week?
Thats very useful info. I think given I have 10 months im gonna really go slow then. Maybe start at 20km a week, and then build it up 2km a week at a time.Going to back up his point because I did essentially the same as you're planning to do for Manchester in April. I played footie once a week and did the odd 5-10k run, and my training started first week of January. I got ill just before Christmas so couldn't run for a month then went into a 16-week training plan and ended up with my hamstrings going 3 weeks before the marathon. Although I had some underlying problems, the massage therapist put it mostly down to overuse/over training.
I managed to get round on the day but slowly and it was just about pride in the end. Still doing rehab and not back running at all yet.
To be fair I'm in the gym doing weights 4 times a week already which is good.Definitely build up slowly. Add me to the list of people getting injured from bumping up the mileage too quickly.
You may think you can do it, and you might feel fine for a few weeks or months but then out of nowhere you'll get injured.
Also you will need to do some strength and conditioning work if you're bumping up your mileage. Just bodyweight stuff is fine, doesn't have to be in the gym with weights.
What would you recommend Travs. Maybe up the mileage a few KM each week?
Yep makes sense.Just as my first post this morning.
Build it up to running (minimum) 4x a week, just take as long as it takes...... then can start to put in longer runs. You've got plenty of time so no need to condense it into a 12/14 week plan....... but you do need to start as soon as possible.
When i go for the marathon (which will be in the next 2-3 years i expect), i'll be wanting at least 9 months to build into it, and i'm doing 70 miles a week now.
Yep makes sense.
Consistency is the most important thing I guess.
It will help somewhat, but running is something else entirely (to state the obvious!). I'd plan to increase your carb intake on running days. I eat around 225 grams of pasta/rice on running days and I find that really helps with recovery.To be fair I'm in the gym doing weights 4 times a week already which is good.
Be interesting to see how my body copes with it.
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