Running (10 Viewers)

[Travs]

The elite may be at the same level.
But the average has gone backwards.
Sub 30 for 5mile & sub 60min for 10 is the standard.
Can't do it , you ain't a runner.

Thats bullshit.

I've never broke 60mins for 10 miles (although i'm racing a 10 miler in November and hope to be thereabouts).

I agree they are good club benchmarks (although 30 for 5 miles is certainly easier than 60 for 10), but they aren't the be all and end all.... i've known guys running 57mins for 10 miles when i was running 62:30, and i would hammer them over other distances and terrains.

 

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[DawlishSkyBlue]

The elite may be at the same level.
But the average has gone backwards.
Sub 30 for 5mile & sub 60min for 10 is the standard.
Can't do it , you ain't a runner.

I aint a runner then

 

[Travs]

I aint a runner then

He makes a couple of valid points about depth/standard in club competition....

But he's all over the place with that comment.

30mins for 5 miles and 60mins for 10 miles aren't remotely comparable anyway. I suspect he well knows this.

He should take a trip over to Podium at Leicester.......

Something like 40 runners broke 14mins for 5km
Around 150 broke 15mins.
I ran low 17's and there were about 400 runners quicker than me across the quicker races.

That is a reasonable amount of depth for anyone at a single event.

Armagh 5km had 150 runners break 15mins in a single race.

The fact that a lot of them may prioritise other things over turning out for their club, yeah thats an issue.....

 

[Farmer Jim]

Isn't that just a case of it being more popular making the mean average slower? My club has a hell of a lot of middle aged slower runners who've joined over the last few years but the best are still as fast as anyone who came before them I wouldve thought

I`d say that the majority of trail races I do, are populated by the 40/50 age group, both men and women, for the simple reasons that trail running in particular has taken off amongst the white / middle aged / middle class, who have time on their hands due to their kids being grown up and the fact they can afford to have weekends away in the likes of Cumbria / North Wales / Yorkshire etc and compete in races, that previously were the preserve of serious competitors from running clubs.

These running clubs still have serious and elite runners, but they also have a lot of nuts and bolts runners, who just enjoy the day out and the social side of things.

I`ve got mates who cycle and cycling is the same apparently.

I don`t road run, but I should imagine that road races are the same too.

So I`d say your pretty much spot on about the mean average becoming slower, as more " older fun and social " runners are now bulking up races.

 

[CovValleyBoy]

Thats bullshit.

I've never broke 60mins for 10 miles (although i'm racing a 10 miler in November and hope to be thereabouts).

I agree they are good club benchmarks (although 30 for 5 miles is certainly easier than 60 for 10), but they aren't the be all and end all.... i've known guys running 57mins for 10 miles when i was running 62:30, and i would hammer them over other distances and terrains.

Agreed easier to break 30 than 60.
But a male runner does both. Jogging will do neither.

 

[Sky_Blue_Daz]

Nothing compared to some of you , but I did another 5k today