Evo1883
Well-Known Member
Either way ...it's a huge difference
That's from each of their published accounts.
It proves that we're massively overachieving
no it doesn’t - please don’t fall for the Tim fisher spin
That's from each of their published accounts.
Which will not break down the players’ wages, the manager’s/backroom staff’s wages and the non-footballing wages. Difficult to ascertain exactly what’s what. My rough guess was that our playing wage bill would be around £7m.
Even if our wage bill is £10m like you claim, that’s still half the league average and (50% below most teams not in a relegation battle). You’re falling for your own taxi for Robins spin.
Half what it needs to be
Which will not break down the players’ wages, the manager’s/backroom staff’s wages and the non-footballing wages. Difficult to ascertain exactly what’s what. My rough guess was that our playing wage bill would be around £7m.
Which proves wage bills have not a huge factor in league position
At last you are seeing the light
Yeah that's probably about right, less than a quarter of some of the teams we're in a relegation battle with.
Is Barnsley’s wage bill about £60 million then?
It is getting more like Thorn all the time, hands are tied, Fergie couldn't do any better etc etc.
Still doesn't explain defending a 0-0 against a very very poor Birmingham and all the other times there has been a failure to react during games.
The ability to offer more money , be it wages or transfer / agent fees ...often directly influences how well a team "CAN" do .
You have anomalies , like bielsa at Leeds who did amazing last season
Man City and Chelsea have all proven this in modern times and have been consistently successful.
A big part of that , and it's not a small part ...is money
What are you on about now?
The gap in finances between top and bottom was nowhere near the size of the gap today..As it always was but we oddly survived for over 30 years in the top flight with vastly inferior squads especially in the 80’s - managers had to keep the club up and continually so is we sack them
Well you said we are competing against teams with budgets of £45m as Barnsley are in the promotion places theirs has to be higher surely?
Barnsley were promoted on around a total wage of £7 million so what’s their wage bill now?
The gap in finances between top and bottom was nowhere near the size of the gap today..
Fact
Well it was as the teams at the bottom would attract millions of revenue
Graham Withey was a lot further away from Garry Lineker than the strikers in the bottom 3 clubs to the top
The financial gap between top clubs and bottom clubs was nowhere near as big as it is today
That's a fact
That's true as long as the money is spent well and that is where so many teams with it have not done that at all levels,it all comes down to ,knowledge of players ability,temperament,attitude how when signed they click with fellow team players and luck re injuries,discipline.The ability to offer more money , be it wages or transfer / agent fees ...often directly influences how well a team "CAN" do .
You have anomalies , like bielsa at Leeds who did amazing last season
Man City and Chelsea have all proven this in modern times and have been consistently successful.
A big part of that , and it's not a small part ...is money
It’s a fact it’s also irrelevant as proven by several clubs getting promoted in the top two divisions and remaining there
Many factors including clubs resources play a role though ...Newcastle, West ham hardly small clubs but got promoted and stayed Albeit Newcastle have ups and downs
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Many seasons there have been 2 sides .
Money and resources a direct influence
it isn’t though when you quote clubs with £46m wage bills in the bottom 3 of this league and many with less than half of that above it
But we've already been through why that happens haven't we ?
Unsustainable push for promotion ...followed by gradual decline
It is getting more like Thorn all the time, hands are tied, Fergie couldn't do any better etc etc.
Still doesn't explain defending a 0-0 against a very very poor Birmingham and all the other times there has been a failure to react during games.
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