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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #351
Otis said:
I wasn't chipping away. You said the bloke was black and it was a black bloke attacking white blokes.
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Exactly, I've ignored him after that.
 

Greggs

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #352
Otis said:
Yes, great answer. You want to fight about it.

Says much more about you than it does about me.
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Yes, you're a coward
 

Greggs

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #353
Fuck you Darren Oday. Answer your pm, pussy
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #354
If greggs really wants a fight we should try and see what places we can get him to turn up to.

Still really, really fucking sad that he's threatening violence because people have pointed out his own posts to him.
 

Greggs

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #355
Otis said:
I wasn't chipping away. You said the bloke was black and it was a black bloke attacking white blokes.
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Sorry, it was a dark brown bloke attacking slightly off cream people (this is a joke) That wasn't my point, you're poisonous. My point was how race vs race is published in the press. That's all.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #356
In case Greggs tries to lie about what he has said
 

Greggs

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #357
I'm not threatening violence. Just a chat face to face
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #358
Greggs said:
I'm not threatening violence. Just a chat face to face
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Happy to chat. Always.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #359
I worry that these days we so much jumping to conclusions and it can be dangerous.

I think that all people were saying yesterday was to wait for the facts.

The Broadgate thing showed us that. The reports on the internet were widely way off the mark.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #360
David O'Day said:
In case Greggs tries to lie about what he has said
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If you are going to put someone on ignore, just ignore them. This ignore and wind up routine is toxic and stinking this place out.
 
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Greggs

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #361
Skybluefaz said:
If you are going to put someone on ignore, just ignore them. This ignore and wind up routine is toxic and stinking this place out.
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Cheers pal. He's making my piss boil
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #362
Skybluefaz said:
If you are going to put someone on ignore, just ignore them. This ignore and wind up routine is toxic and stinking this place out.
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I hadn't mentioned him until he started to threaten me with violence. So how do you figure that?
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #363
I think we can all agree that greggs needs to go and have a wank to cool off and relax, but I do find it quite ironic that O'day resorts to personal insults about weight, height etc whilst engaged in arguing about discrimination and hatred. Certainly not as bad as racism before someone points out how they're different, but demonstrates enough hypocrisy that he should take a look at himself and his debating as it renders some often valid points as being hollow.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #364
Otis said:
I worry that these days we so much jumping to conclusions and it can be dangerous.

I think that all people were saying yesterday was to wait for the facts.

The Broadgate thing showed us that. The reports on the internet were widely way off the mark.
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To be fair you’d discounted the fact it was a terrorist attack when it was pretty clear it was from the beginning
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #365
David offers fights all the time, now someone wants to take him up on it I'm guessing he's not up for it?

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #366
Skybluefaz said:
If you are going to put someone on ignore, just ignore them. This ignore and wind up routine is toxic and stinking this place out.
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Exactly, people need to grow the fuck up.

I think some people need to stick to Twitter and brag about blocking people.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #367
Grendel said:
To be fair you’d discounted the fact it was a terrorist attack when it was pretty clear it was from the beginning
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Not true.

I thought in my mind it was probably terrorist related, but police then made a statement that they didn't believe it to be terrorist related at that stage.

At that point I was every much let's wait and see.

Entirely sensible.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #368
Marty said:
Always the same scenario, known to MI5, history of crimes, etc. For scum like this, we should have tiny cells, living on bread and water, no exercise, no communication to the outside world, make the next 40 years hell, then execute him. We've taken him in (wrongly imo, but everyone knows my views on that) and he turns around and thanks us like this, we should have a one strike and your out policy for all immigrants.
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A fundamental failure on policy here by those responsible.
 
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Otis

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #369
Ian1779 said:
A fundamental failure on policy here by those responsible.
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I take it we just don't have the resources to track and keep an eye on everyone on any watchlist.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #370
Otis said:
I take it we just don't have the resources to track and keep an eye on everyone on any watchlist.
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No we don’t - and we’ve been stripping the whole system of resources for years.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #371
Otis said:
I take it we just don't have the resources to track and keep an eye on everyone on any watchlist.
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This is an interesting twitter thread on what "known to MI5" means and what is done at that stage.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #372
Otis said:
Not true.

I thought in my mind it was probably terrorist related, but police then made a statement that they didn't believe it to be terrorist related at that stage.

At that point I was every much let's wait and see.

Entirely sensible.
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Did they actually rule it out? I still haven't seen where they said this.

It was said within a couple of hours it was terror related, I posted a screenshot.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #373
Ian1779 said:
No we don’t - and we’ve been stripping the whole system of resources for years.
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Much easier to just bundle them into a van and get rid of them.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #374
Deleted member 5849 said:
BBC says:

Police say the multiple stabbing is “not currently being treated as a terrorism incident".

Det Ch Supt Ian Hunter said: "However, officers are keeping an open mind as to the motivation for the incident and are being supported by colleagues from Counter Terrorism Policing South East."
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Of course this makes me a lefty radical football hating bisexual.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #375
Nick said:
Did they actually rule it out? I still haven't seen where they said this.

It was said within a couple of hours it was terror related, I posted a screenshot.
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My understanding is, Nick, that on Saturday night it was said to be terror related. I didn't see that at all. I only picked up on the story Sunday morning and there the statement from the police was that they didn't believe it to be teror related.

Has anyone said they completely ruled it out? I certainly didn't.

Don't think anyone has said it definitely wasn't terror related have they. Maybe I missed it if so.

I just saw the police saying they didn't think it to be.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #376
Nick said:
Much easier to just bundle them into a van and get rid of them.
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We’ve probably already removed the funding for the van driver and sold the van...
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #377
Deleted member 5849 said:
Of course this makes me a lefty radical football hating bisexual.
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Wasn't that just one article from the BBC though? It was the BBC saying it wasn't, rather than the policeman.

I mean, counter terror police were raiding his flat that night which was also being reported.

Pretty obvious it was and as it turns out, it was....
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #378
Nick said:
Wasn't that just one article from the BBC though? It was the BBC saying it wasn't, rather than the policeman.

I mean, counter terror police were raiding his flat that night which was also being reported.

Pretty obvious it was and as it turns out, it was....
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It was reported as:

Police say the multiple stabbing is “not currently being treated as a terrorism incident".

Det Ch Supt Ian Hunter said: "However, officers are keeping an open mind as to the motivation for the incident and are being supported by colleagues from Counter Terrorism Policing South East."

Matt Hancock even said it wasn't being investigated as terrorist, moments before it was. It appears however, that to point that out makes one uber political, reek of tie-dye, and have a massive beard and smoke a pipe.
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #379
Nick said:
Wasn't that just one article from the BBC though? It was the BBC saying it wasn't, rather than the policeman.

I mean, counter terror police were raiding his flat that night which was also being reported.

Pretty obvious it was and as it turns out, it was....
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“This is not currently being treated as a terrorism incident, however officers are keeping an open mind as to the motivation for the incident and are being supported by colleagues from Counter Terrorism Policing South East.

From the Thames Valley Police website, to be fair you are right, it obviously looked like a terrorist incident. However I'm with Otis in that I will wait until it's confirmed.

*UPDATED* Murder investigation launched – Reading | Thames Valley Police
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #380
Ian1779 said:
A fundamental failure on policy here by those responsible.
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I agree - there are an estimated 40,000 suspected people like this guy - we really should look long and hard at our asylum system - anyone on this list should be made available to the public and any non uk citizens on it sent packing tomorrow
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #381
It was reported not long after 10 it was a terror incident? 10.40 I think it was.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #382
Deleted member 5849 said:
Matt Hancock even said it wasn't being investigated as terrorist, moments before it was. It appears however, that to point that out makes one uber political, reek of tie-dye, and have a massive beard and smoke a pipe.
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That was more aimed at the likes of DOD who want to make every single thread about their politics bullshit. Lefty this, righty that, gammon this and that. "Oh I have so and so blocked but I read what they say anyway".
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #383
Nick said:
That was more aimed at the likes of DOD who want to make every single thread about their politics bullshit. Lefty this, righty that, gammon this and that. "Oh I have so and so blocked but I read what they say anyway".
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WTF are you talking about?

Where have I made this thread about left or right?

Get help mate
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #384
Nick said:
It was reported not long after 10 it was a terror incident? 10.40 I think it was.
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Note to editors: There will be no further updates tonight. From the same Police article.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #385
Grendel said:
I agree - there are an estimated 40,000 suspected people like this guy - we really should look long and hard at our asylum system - anyone on this list should be made available to the public and any non uk citizens on it sent packing tomorrow
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Exactly, far too soft.

If somebody commits a violent crime in this country after being allowed in then they should be sent back. They make their choice when they commit the crime.
 
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