Rangers (5 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think you'd have to merge English and Scottish football entirely to do that. I have some ideas on how to do that fairly but I'm not going to bother writing a load of paragraphs that are probably cobblers on here.
Needless to say it benefits the Scottish clubs way more to be in our league system than it does our clubs them being in it.

Agree with the last bit, though that’s not a reason against doing it necessarily. Sending Plymouth up to Inverness for a fixture would be pretty entertaining anyway.

 

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[clint van damme]

Difference is with us v Bournemouth we’re effectively in the same playing field.
Scottish football is shrinking into the ether. The standing of the football is dragging rangers and Celtic down with it.

as the world moves forward their will eventually be people more familiar with the Bournemouth’s than Rangers, therefore increasing the worldwide fanbase.
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Bournemouth are the epitome of a tinpot outfit who got lucky. They'll get it wrong at some point and beback in the lower end of the Championship.
Not sure even many of their deluded support would think they're going to develop a worldwide fanbase

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Bournemouth are the epitome of a tinpot outfit who got lucky. They'll get it wrong at some point and beback in the lower end of the Championship.
Not sure even many of their deluded support would think they're going to develop a worldwide fanbase

It’s more they develop it by association with the premier league - I agree their tinpot but currently their worldwide appeal will be bigger than the Scottish league

 

[SkyBlueCV2]

Agree with the last bit, though that’s not a reason against doing it necessarily. Sending Plymouth up to Inverness for a fixture would be pretty entertaining anyway.

Unfortunately, distance aside, I think there would be too much trouble (particularly on the political front) between fans. We've already seen how it kicked off between Sunderland and Celtic a few years ago. Rangers have had some incidents in England too, smashing places up, etc. Loyalist supporters would probably join forces or something.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Unfortunately, distance aside, I think there would be too much trouble (particularly on the political front) between fans. We've already seen how it kicked off between Sunderland and Celtic a few years ago. Rangers have had some incidents in England too, smashing places up, etc. Loyalist supporters would probably join forces or something.

Money talks though, they’d bring a fair bit.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Money talks though, they’d bring a fair bit.

What would they bring in that the premier league already doesn’t bring in?

 

[TomRad85]

Money talks though, they’d bring a fair bit.

Not relevant to the title of the thread at all but I'm in favour of more leagues merging to keep the quality higher and get more eyes on them. Really wanted that Dutch/Belgian league merger to go through.

 

[SkyBlueCV2]

Bournemouth are the epitome of a tinpot outfit who got lucky. They'll get it wrong at some point and beback in the lower end of the Championship.
Not sure even many of their deluded support would think they're going to develop a worldwide fanbase

Don't tell that to Celtic fans in terms of being delusional. Their supporters often wrongly boast about how they could compete in the PL when they're on a little run of form, and yet didn't they recently lose to a club I've never even heard of in the CL? More confused than Rangers...

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What would they bring in that the premier league already doesn’t bring in?

Let’s be honest, Celtic in the top flight would be a far bigger ‘brand’ than Bournemouth, Brentford, Fulham or any of the other clubs I forget are top flight clubs. Same for Rangers.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not relevant to the title of the thread at all but I'm in favour of more leagues merging to keep the quality higher and get more eyes on them. Really wanted that Dutch/Belgian league merger to go through.

If it were up to me Britain would just be one country tbf, but that’s definitely for ranting like a loony in off topic, not here.

 

[TomRad85]

Let’s be honest, Celtic in the top flight would be a far bigger ‘brand’ than Bournemouth, Brentford, Fulham or any of the other clubs I forget are top flight clubs. Same for Rangers.

It's true but it's also a proper coping crutch for them. "If we were in the Prem with Prem money blah blah." Yeh well, you ain't... its proper if my auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle stuff.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It's true but it's also a proper coping crutch for them. "If we were in the Prem with Prem money blah blah." Yeh well, you ain't... it’s proper if my auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle stuff.

I agree, but it’s a commercial reason to have them in the league system.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Don't tell that to Celtic fans in terms of being delusional. Their supporters often wrongly boast about how they could compete in the PL when they're on a little run of form, and yet didn't they recently lose to a club I've never even heard of in the CL? More confused than Rangers...

No way. Rangers fans are more confused. They still think they are the same club they were before 2012.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

No way. Rangers fans are more confused. They still think they are the same club they were before 2012.

They don’t have this weird habit of pretending to be Irish as Celtic fans do, but that’s another debate too.

 

[TomRad85]

They don’t have this weird habit of pretending to be Irish as Celtic fans do, but that’s another debate too.

Didn't you used to live up there or did I imagine this?

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Let’s be honest, Celtic in the top flight would be a far bigger ‘brand’ than Bournemouth, Brentford, Fulham or any of the other clubs I forget are top flight clubs. Same for Rangers.

But given the collective purchasing of the premier league rights - it doesn’t matter if it’s Celtic or Brentford.

Don't tell that to Celtic fans in terms of being delusional. Their supporters often wrongly boast about how they could compete in the PL when they're on a little run of form, and yet didn't they recently lose to a club I've never even heard of in the CL? More confused than Rangers...

They’d suffer the same issue as Newcastle - no matter how much money they have… no fucker wants to live up north

 

[Shannerz]

I wouldn’t actually object to them entering our league system, we have enough Welsh clubs in the pyramid anyway.

All the Welsh clubs in the pyramid have played in it since their inception, though. The Welsh league is comparatively new, and for years all Welsh clubs played in the English league system.

I would not want the two big Glasgow clubs in English football; they come with too much baggage.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Didn't you used to live up there or did I imagine this?

Lived in Scotland for nearly a decade and my wife is Scottish also. Formerly an Aberdeen fan so we often watched them when they played in Dundee.

Some of the worst football I have ever seen, at least professional. Then some friends of mine who supported Dunfermline invited me to some of their games and it was a whole other level of shite. Great stadium food though, they do that better than we do.

 

[covcity4life]

Cantwell only left rangers because he fell out with Clement.
So you've made a presumption that isn't true.

It doesn't bother me but if we heard, (and in the past we have heard), supporters of say, Bournemouth, who are a tinpot outfit who just managed to get on the Gravy train, talking about us in the same way, we'd rightly slate them

Well said

Anyone trying to put down Rangers and Celtic is idiotic imo

They should be respected for their history and also worth bearing in mind if they ever got invited to English leagues they would challenge at the top

All this nonsense of their team is league 1 standard etc is just that nonsense. They would use the money to buy better players anyway

Would be on same level as spurs villa who were mentioned earlier within a few years

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Well said

Anyone trying to put down Rangers and Celtic is idiotic imo

They should be respected for their history and also worth bearing in mind if they ever got invited to English leagues they would challenge at the top

All this nonsense of their team is league 1 standard etc is just that nonsense. They would use the money to buy better players anyway

Would be on same level as spurs villa who were mentioned earlier within a few years

I’d counter that as above 1 they’d suffer from the same issues Newcastle have done.

history should be respected - but ultimately the last time both sides were relevant on the world stage barring 1 or 2 runs was 20 years ago.

there’s a generation of players who won’t recognise the standard of Scottish football and ultimately won’t care about their history. Celtics big moment was 60 years ago.

I’m not saying they wouldn’t be a good premier league side. But they’d struggle to break into the elite 6 clubs. Once European football becomes difficult to obtain it’ll come down to them over paying has been players, as the good ones will swerve them for the same money in better locations that Glasgow

At the moment they’re both stepping stones for the premier league. In fact - take Lampards situation. 20 years ago he jumps at the chance to go to rangers… now he prefers the bright lights of Coventry

 

[Evo1883]

Rangers and celtic are big clubs , but their history is littered with uncompetitive trophy wins , nobody gets excited about winning the scottish premier league in the same way nobody gets excited about malmo winning the swedish title , nobody gives a fuck in reality its a shit league

Before the 90s neither club pulled up trees with attendances either

Comparitably , the premier league big clubs dwarf them both in size

 

[Evo1883]

There have only ever been 19 seasons where rangers or celtic didnt win the league .. their over inflated opinions of themselves stem from this

 

[Liquid Gold]

Isn’t there an issue with UEFA and the leagues merging? I swear they got a bit jittery when we did team GB football in 2012 and that’s why it was just a one off.

Maybe a similar situation for Benelux.