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Rangers interested in Hamer (1 Viewer)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #141
shmmeee said:
Didn’t all three of them go for around that much?
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I meant now!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #142
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I meant now!
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McCallum was only a year ago!

I think if you gave our recruitment team £3m they’d come back with a player of similar potential to Hamer
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #143
shmmeee said:
McCallum was only a year ago!

I think if you gave our recruitment team £3m they’d come back with a player of similar potential to Hamer
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I meant £3 million for the 3 of them now...bah forget it!
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #144
Greggs said:
Thanks for the cliches. I dread to think what football was like when it didn't move.
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Yakubu springs to mind.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #145
shmmeee said:
Didn’t all three of them go for around that much?
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they went for around £13 million in total
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #146
Skyblueweeman said:
Doubt we'd get Walsh for £3m.
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He's at the end of his contract, hasn't played this season and virtually untested at Championship level. We would be mad to pay anything like that.

I liked him a lot in League 1 but he's nowhere near Hamer level.
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #147
shmmeee said:
Well he cost £1.3m, I’d assume we won’t find another as easily so have more than doubled that. £3m will find you a championship level player easily.
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You seem to be missing the point. We can't or ever replace him like for like.

It will be of lesser quality player or should I say a player of much less value.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #148
Londonccfcfan said:
You seem to be missing the point. We can't or ever replace him like for like.

It will be of lesser quality player or should I say a player of much less value.
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Why? We’ve come up from L2 using this exact model. Why is it suddenly beyond the realms of possibility?
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #149
shmmeee said:
Why? We’ve come up from L2 using this exact model. Why is it suddenly beyond the realms of possibility?
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Again your missing the point. Never mind.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #150
Londonccfcfan said:
Again your missing the point. Never mind.
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I really am. The idea we can improve the overall squad by selling players beyond our level seems blindingly obvious.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #151
Londonccfcfan said:
You seem to be missing the point. We can't or ever replace him like for like.

It will be of lesser quality player or should I say a player of much less value.
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We replaced Bayliss with Walsh and then Walsh with Hamer
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #152
shmmeee said:
McCallum was only a year ago!

I think if you gave our recruitment team £3m they’d come back with a player of similar potential to Hamer
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Hamer is arguably one of the buys of the championship if not the buy of the season. You reckon we can we can keep on recruiting players of that ilk season on season. Answer is No.

Buying players with potential is one thing. Realising that potential is another.

He's irreplaceable!
 

mark82

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #153
Skyblueweeman said:
Doubt we'd get Walsh for £3m.
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If he doesn't sign a contract we could get him for a whole lot less than that in the summer.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #154
Londonccfcfan said:
Hamer is arguably one of the buys of the championship if not the buy of the season. You reckon we can we can keep on recruiting players of that ilk season on season. Answer is No.

Buying players with potential is one thing. Realising that potential is another.

He's irreplaceable!
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With you now!

Whether they’d be exactly as good as Hamer who knows, but I’d wager they’d be of his upper Championship level. Which is my point. £6m for Hamer and i think we’d see two players who would be the best in our team.

Hamer is a decent buy, but he’s the result of a process that’s found Sheaf and Walker for <£1m and the likes of Østigård. I’d wager we could find more, that’s all I’m saying. I don’t think we’d be back to the “sell McSheffrey and buy Kyle and McKenzie” days.
 
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superskyblue

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #155
Londonccfcfan said:
Hamer is arguably one of the buys of the championship if not the buy of the season. You reckon we can we can keep on recruiting players of that ilk season on season. Answer is No.

Buying players with potential is one thing. Realising that potential is another.

He's irreplaceable!
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I agree that we've struck gold with Hamer and it's unrealistic to expect us to do it year in year out.

In the past if we signed a Hamer you'd have to attribute it to luck more than judgement. But now, because our recruitment team have a clear plan and are strategic with who they sign we've got a much better % chance than most other clubs at our level of unearthing these talents.

But yes they won't all work, you only have to look in our squad to see that.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #156
superskyblue said:
I agree that we've struck gold with Hamer and it's unrealistic to expect us to do it year in year out.

In the past if we signed a Hamer you'd have to attribute it to luck more than judgement. But now, because our recruitment team have a clear plan and are strategic with who they sign we've got a much better % chance than most other clubs at our level of unearthing these talents.

But yes they won't all work, you only have to look in our squad to see that.
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I reckon if we had a ‘normal’ budget our success rate would be even higher
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #157
mark82 said:
If he doesn't sign a contract we could get him for a whole lot less than that in the summer.
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Their manager rates him highly doesn't he and he's not been playing because he's injured...is that right? I've not really followed his situation that much. You'd imagine that he'll be in contract talks because if his contract is up in the summer, he'll have been free to speak to people from the 1st January and I cannot see anything online.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #158
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I reckon if we had a ‘normal’ budget our success rate would be even higher
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I reckon if my budget was bigger, my house would be bigger
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #159
Whilst Rangers are a big club, would they match his likely ambition?
Possibly but I would think he'd be aiming for a top league in a bigger pond.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #160
Skyblueweeman said:
I reckon if my budget was bigger, my house would be bigger
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You know what I mean, we’d use it better than other clubs on similar money and wouldn’t need to go into freebies as much
 
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superskyblue

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #161
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You know what I mean, we’d use it better than other clubs on similar money and wouldn’t need to go into freebies as much
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We'd be competing with Brentford.
 

mrtrench

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #162
shmmeee said:
£6m for Hamer and i think we’d see two players who would be the best in our team.
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For £6m I reckon we could get Walsh; Bright; Keogh and tempt McSheff back.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #163
wingy said:
Whilst Rangers are a big club, would they match his likely ambition?
Possibly but I would think he'd be aiming for a top league in a bigger pond.
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They will be on the champions league stage next year that’s a big lure to ambitious players and can lead to top European clubs.
 

Gibbo

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #164
Magwitch said:
They will be on the champions league stage next year that’s a big lure to ambitious players and can lead to top European clubs.
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None of this matters. If Rangers can pay top dollar, we sell him to Rangers. If Halifax paid top dollar I'd sell him. What we don't want is somebody trying to get in early and get him cheap, because SISU need or want the cash. We are unlikely get top dollar in January.

He is almost certainly on his way in the summer, we all know that there will be some big squad gaps, so we want the bucks to buy 2/3 quality new players from the cash.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #165
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You know what I mean, we’d use it better than other clubs on similar money and wouldn’t need to go into freebies as much
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Pulling your leg mate.
 

JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #166
mrtrench said:
For £6m I reckon we could get Walsh; Bright; Keogh and tempt McSheff back.
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#carlbakerday
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #167
Skyblueweeman said:
I reckon if my budget was bigger, my house would be bigger
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Maybe you would become”sky blue monsterman”?
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #168
Johhny Blue said:
Maybe you would become”sky blue monsterman”?
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I was thinking simply 'Skybluebiggerman'
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #169
Skyblueweeman said:
Their manager rates him highly doesn't he
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tbf until he becomes not injured, we don't know if his manager really does rate him, or is just spouting cliches.
 
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mark82

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #170
Skyblueweeman said:
Their manager rates him highly doesn't he and he's not been playing because he's injured...is that right? I've not really followed his situation that much. You'd imagine that he'll be in contract talks because if his contract is up in the summer, he'll have been free to speak to people from the 1st January and I cannot see anything online.
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Yeah, sounds like he's holding off on signing a contract to make sure the manager isn't just paying lip service. When he's back from injury, if he's in the first team he'll probably stay. If he still doesn't play think he'll leave. Seems it's all about playing time for him.
 
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mark82

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  • Jan 18, 2021
  • #171
shmmeee said:
With you now!

Whether they’d be exactly as good as Hamer who knows, but I’d wager they’d be of his upper Championship level. Which is my point. £6m for Hamer and i think we’d see two players who would be the best in our team.

Hamer is a decent buy, but he’s the result of a process that’s found Sheaf and Walker for <£1m and the likes of Østigård. I’d wager we could find more, that’s all I’m saying. I don’t think we’d be back to the “sell McSheffrey and buy Kyle and McKenzie” days.
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There are players out there that we can sign for similar money as Hamer. As an example, Emi Buendia cost Norwich in the region of £1.35m. That is a bargain.
 
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