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Rangers interested in Hamer (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Ccfcisparks
  • Start date Jan 14, 2021
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Magwitch

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #106
I would hate Hamer to move on so early in his Sky Blue career he has the potential to be a top player, but then will he achieve that here. Football continually moves especially nowadays. If one out brings three in plus a wedge of money you can see why it might happen, still only rumour but then is there smoke without fire.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #107
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Twitter is a mad place. It’s as if our own fans are trying to sell him with all sorts of polls from how much should we sell Hamer for to should we sign Liam Walsh to replace him...
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I saw someone on twitter say if we sold Hamer for £8m Walsh should only cost £6m then we have 2 spare.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #108
For me Hamer is the sort of player to build a team around. If we get a silly offer fair enough but otherwise keep him.
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #109
Liquid Gold said:
I saw someone on twitter say if we sold Hamer for £8m Walsh should only cost £6m then we have 2 spare.
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He’s not wrong. Get him on countdown.
 
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #110
It's literally a nothing story yet so many on Twitter & Facebook have whipped themselves into a frenzy over it

This morning alone I've already seen:

"Typical SISU looking to cash in"

"Knowing us we'll sell him on the cheap'

"He's a Champions League winner one day - easily"

& another suggesting his "realistic current value is £25m - £30m"
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #111
Frostie said:
It's literally a nothing story yet so many on Twitter & Facebook have whipped themselves into a frenzy over it

This morning alone I've already seen:

"Typical SISU looking to cash in"

"Knowing us we'll sell him on the cheap'

"He's a Champions League winner one day - easily"

& another suggesting his "realistic current value is £25m - £30m"
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Think the last one is CC84Cov
 
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Barnsley

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #112
Love it when fans start valuing their own players
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #113
shmmeee said:
For me Hamer is the sort of player to build a team around. If we get a silly offer fair enough but otherwise keep him.
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Define silly
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #114
Sky Blue Pete said:
Define silly
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Enough to comfortably buy two players of his quality, and not gambles. So say £6m+?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #115
shmmeee said:
Enough to comfortably buy two players of his quality, and not gambles. So say £6m+?
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Yep I think that’s bang on and I’d be disappointed but happy that was absolutely sensible. Can’t see anyone paying that in January though
 
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standupforcity

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #116
If we have any real aspirations to remain in the Championship and aim for the Prem...we cannot afford to sell players like Hamer...we are so lucky to have him and the kind of player we've been wanting for years...and there aren't many out there to replace him right now...
 
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Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #117
shmmeee said:
Enough to comfortably buy two players of his quality, and not gambles. So say £6m+?
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If or when he is ever sold I don’t care if we got £20million there’s no way Sepalla would allow our manager to have £6million of it to spend on the team.
 
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Deleted member 2477

Guest
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #118
Im interested in the 20 year old blond next door but doesnt nean Ill get her
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #119
Evo1883 said:
We'd get 8 mill I reckon... But I doubt it would happen
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OXYMORON ALERT
 

Johhny Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2021
  • #120
Sky Blue Pete said:
Define silly
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Super Graham Withey said:
For me Hamer is overrated. He gives the ball away far too much. If the money is right, move him on,
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robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2021
  • #121
we sold Wilson for £1m about 7 years ago, Maddison for £3m anout 5 years ago, Bayliss for £1m-£2m a couple of years ago, and people are saying we’d only get £3m for Hamer when he’s the best player in his position we’ve had in about 20 years and transfer fees are absolutely mad I’m this division despite having no fans

Absolutely clueless
 
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Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #122
shmmeee said:
Enough to comfortably buy two players of his quality, and not gambles. So say £6m+?
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How do well sell him for £6M plus and get 2 players of his quality?
 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #123
robbiekeane said:
we sold Wilson for £1m about 7 years ago, Maddison for £3m anout 5 years ago, Bayliss for £1m-£2m a couple of years ago, and people are saying we’d only get £3m for Hamer when he’s the best player in his position we’ve had in about 20 years and transfer fees are absolutely mad I’m this division despite having no fans

Absolutely clueless
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Tbf it's only a few who saying £3M.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #124
Londonccfcfan said:
How do well sell him for £6M plus and get 2 players of his quality?
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Well he cost £1.3m, I’d assume we won’t find another as easily so have more than doubled that. £3m will find you a championship level player easily.
 
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cov donkey kick

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #125
I'd never heard of hamer till we signed him so I think there must be more gems of players out there but also we will sign duds taking the risk like kastaneer taking the risk with overseas players.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #126
BackRoomRummermill said:
with all this publicity, if Gers were not interested before they might be now ....
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Magwitch said:
Who is putting Hamer on the radar, sisu sell family silver do so every year Matty James in, Gyokeres possibly in, Crowley another strongly linked then there’s Walsh. Now Hamer is possibly linked to Norwich as well as Rangers a convenient auction ? a similar deal to the Maddison one ? I rule nothing out.
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It was most likely his agent drumming it up rather than the club.
Walsh won’t be coming here, the Bristol City manager has said he’s central to his future plans.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #127
cov donkey kick said:
I'd never heard of hamer till we signed him so I think there must be more gems of players out there but also we will sign duds taking the risk like kastaneer taking the risk with overseas players.
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No matter how good your recruitment (and ours has been good for the last few years in my opinion) is when your model is to find hidden gems or players with potential and develop them it will go wrong fairly often.
 

SBAndy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #128
Sick Boy said:
It was most likely his agent drumming it up rather than the club.
Walsh won’t be coming here, the Bristol City manager has said he’s central to his future plans.
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Only a matter of a few months left on his contract now, though. Never say never.
 
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standupforcity

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #129
cov donkey kick said:
I'd never heard of hamer till we signed him so I think there must be more gems of players out there but also we will sign duds taking the risk like kastaneer taking the risk with overseas players.
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Kasta... Well thank goodness for the entertainment
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #130
I love the guy, he's a rock and I've only heard one person slate him. Says something when we're 99% in agreement about his value to the club on the pitch.

However, under the current circumstances, we have to face facts that we need to develop and sell in order to survive. We have no hope of promotion until we invest big money in proven quality (unlikely), find a team of gems like him, or see the kids come good.

If he commands a large fee that will help keep us treading water for a couple of years, unfortunately head says he'll be packaged off.
 
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Greggs

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #131
Magwitch said:
I would hate Hamer to move on so early in his Sky Blue career he has the potential to be a top player, but then will he achieve that here. Football continually moves especially nowadays. If one out brings three in plus a wedge of money you can see why it might happen, still only rumour but then is there smoke without fire.
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Thanks for the cliches. I dread to think what football was like when it didn't move.
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #132
Greggs said:
Thanks for the cliches. I dread to think what football was like when it didn't move.
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Being City fans we've all seen a few footballers that barely move tbf.

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Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #133
shmmeee said:
Well he cost £1.3m, I’d assume we won’t find another as easily so have more than doubled that. £3m will find you a championship level player easily.
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Doubt we'd get Walsh for £3m.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #134
Greggs said:
Thanks for the cliches. I dread to think what football was like when it didn't move.
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #135
shmmeee said:
Enough to comfortably buy two players of his quality, and not gambles. So say £6m+?
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If we sell him for £6m, we are not allowed to spend all of that on incoming players iirc? So if we then can reinvest to buy 2 players at £2m (bear in mind their wages will effectively be probably collectively 4 times what Hamer is on, due to being established non gambles. and that logic starts to unravel - or at least, if not the logic, then the value to which we can replace him, when you factor in the increased wages)

Edit: although it becomes a more feasible strategy if, at the same time, you lose a 'fringe' player e.g. Kastaneer, Hillsner etc.
 
Last edited: Jan 17, 2021

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #136
Liquid Gold said:
I saw someone on twitter say if we sold Hamer for £8m Walsh should only cost £6m then we have 2 spare.
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2 spare what? Brain cells?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #137
Skyblueweeman said:
Doubt we'd get Walsh for £3m.
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If we’re getting Walsh it’ll be for free because he hasn’t signed a new contract. I’m more talking picking up a young L1 player or prem drop out or a foreigner (though who knows how fruitful that rupture will be post Brexit).

£3m is more than enough to get players at the top end of our model. It’s basically buying Wilson/Maddison/McCallum rather than selling them.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #138
shmmeee said:
If we’re getting Walsh it’ll be for free because he hasn’t signed a new contract. I’m more talking picking up a young L1 player or prem drop out or a foreigner (though who knows how fruitful that rupture will be post Brexit).

£3m is more than enough to get players at the top end of our model. It’s basically buying Wilson/Maddison/McCallum rather than selling them.
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Don’t think £3 million will cover them mate
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #139
Sky Blue Harry H said:
If we sell him for £6m, we are not allowed to spend all of that on incoming players iirc? So if we then can reinvest to buy 2 players at £2m (bear in mind their wages will effectively be probably collectively 4 times what Hamer is on, due to being established non gambles. and that logic starts to unravel - or at least, if not the logic, then the value to which we can replace him, when you factor in the increased wages)

Edit: although it becomes a more feasible strategy if, at the same time, you lose a 'fringe' player e.g. Kastaneer, Hillsner etc.
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If we’re going to move the team to the next level the wage bill will follow. There’s not really any way around that. Hopefully a return to Cov will allow that.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2021
  • #140
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Don’t think £3 million will cover them mate
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Didn’t all three of them go for around that much?
 
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