Grendel
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not on par with isis is the biggest understatement- should we raise the terrorist alert status?
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not on par with isis is the biggest understatement- should we raise the terrorist alert status?
hill83
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“Yeah but he killed men as well though”
Grendels ship has sailed as far as I’m concerned. Wanker
NorthernWisdom
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Now there's an obvious follow-up question I'm dying to ask...
clint van damme
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I wouldn't have thought so, but it's clearly more than a lone unhinged attacker.
Canada didn't class the first attacks as terrorist incidents but they do now.
Grendel
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bizarre. This is no different to Michael Ryan. Tell me how it is
Grendel
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I know one who would
hill83
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This c**t is part of the incel community. It’s fucking simple mate. What are you even trying to achieve. What’s is your angle? Fucking weird.
Leave it
clint van damme
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Did Michael Ryan have a shared ideology with 7 other mass murderers cultivated online?
Of course he might have done if he'd had the Internet but he didn't and this fella did and he identified as part of amovement that's been responsible for 8 mass killings.
Liquid Gold
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A loan nutcase that had been radicalised online by a warped ideology.
It’s the same as the vast majority of terrorist incidents in the last few decades.
It’s the same as the vast majority of terrorist incidents in the last few decades.
hill83
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Yes but “loan” doesn’t cut it. Can’t be radicalised if you are on your own. There’s a community of these wankers.
covmark
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Yeah, that was my initial thought. It's dangerous to have so many weirdo's exchanging views and ideas in one place.
Dunno if I'd class it as terrorism though. He obviously caused terror, but was it politically or religiously motivated?
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Evo1883
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we are in an age where people's personal opinions and feelings are often documented as opposed to when Hungerford happened .
They very well could have been 2 men with similar views on many things.
So it's a pointless argument as it's impossible to get an accurate answer .
What we do know is the c**t in Plymouth had a problem with women
hill83
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Spot on. So why is he even trying to argue about it.
Grendel
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its not at all. Like Michael Ryan and the Dunblane shooter these are disturbed individuals. Like Ryan I believe this guy shot his family. I’d say it’s exactly like Ryan actually - it’s not a political statement - the real crime like the others I suspect is he was given a gun licence - without gun licences it would not happen. It seems he watched the terminator over and over again and decided he’d be the terminator - giving him some kind of excuse that he’s brainwashed by a ludricous internet group is giving him credibility he really does not deserve
hill83
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What are you trying to achieve?
Evo1883
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People can be brainwashed by the Internet.
Terrorists , flat earthers , anti vaxxers
It's quite easy
Liquid Gold
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Anybody see the iPlayer documentary on incels?
One of the guys would pose as a male model on dating apps, arrange a meeting with women and either ‘stand them up’ by sitting near them and filming them disheartened or turn up in a mask and take the piss out of them. He’d then upload it all online for them to laugh about.
The whole community is about performative misogyny. It’s pretty clearly gone from an idea to small acts and now more violent acts that are designed to intimidate and suppress women.
Ducking cunts should be classified as terrorises and have their internet access cut off. Maybe then they’d get down the gym and meet real women.
One of the guys would pose as a male model on dating apps, arrange a meeting with women and either ‘stand them up’ by sitting near them and filming them disheartened or turn up in a mask and take the piss out of them. He’d then upload it all online for them to laugh about.
The whole community is about performative misogyny. It’s pretty clearly gone from an idea to small acts and now more violent acts that are designed to intimidate and suppress women.
Ducking cunts should be classified as terrorises and have their internet access cut off. Maybe then they’d get down the gym and meet real women.
Grendel
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im not trying to achieve anything. This is a senseless act by a deranged lunatic - it’s not a political motivated act and is not therefore a terrorist act.
and again the biggest crime is as with the other very occasional acts like this in the U.K. the gun clubs that permit firearms - without which he would not have done this
giving him a label as a terrorist is really what he would like and most certainly not what he deserves
11 years ago we were told gun laws would be tightened up. I have no idea if he had legal access to a gun but I suspect he did so yet again a crime that will never halogen again has happened
Grendel
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I think you are honestly misreading my point I’m actually angry this happened and my guess is he had legitimate access to firearms
Evo1883
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Finsbury Park terror attack: 'Brainwashed' killer had online links to far right
Devices seized from Osborne's home showed internet searches for groups including Britain First and the English Defence League.
news.sky.com
Why ISIS Is Winning the Social Media War—And How to Fight Back
Never before in history have terrorists had such easy access to the minds and eyeballs of millions.
hill83
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I hope I am. It’s a terrorist movement. And is only going to get worse.
COV
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Michael Ryan had no ideology, he was a diagnosed schizophrenic- still horrific but a different scenario.
hill83
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I mean, that’s worth a laugh, but let’s not get into that. There’s plenty of non white incels
Grendel
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I can’t be bothered with this I really can’t or it’s going to get very unpleasant very quickly so I’m out
hill83
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Classic. Still don’t know what you’re trying to achieve.
So far all I’m seeing is, “terrorist lunatics don’t kill people, the people that allow them access to guns do”
COV
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I hadn’t heard of incels but kept seeing the word mentioned, so I did watch that and also read about these people, these are a very dangerous & scary group. I don’t know how ‘on the radar’ they are but they need to be, there could easily be more.
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This could easily get into black hole of philosophy or semantics, but I think that if you called incel a pollical philosophy and the killing as a terrorist act then the words will soon become meaningless
NorthernWisdom
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Can't they just go on match.com like most people who struggle with initial face-to-face?
clint van damme
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Had heard of them and knew about the Elliot Rodger attack but wasn't aware of the other attacks until today nor that part of the black pill philosophy is to encourage mass murder, obviously there's going to be a massive light shone on them in this country now.
Wonder how many there are in the UK?
