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Covstu

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  • Mar 12, 2018
  • #141
Sky Blue Harry H said:
[QUOTE="Covstu, post: 1495932, member: 200

Robins 6 it’s a win but would have liked us to have gotten a goal earlier in the first half and take the game to them, we didn’t do this today and can see a carbon copy performance against Luton which probably won’t work
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Have to say, that was one of my first thoughts/worries after the game[/QUOTE]
I think this was frustrates me most, we have two decent strikers but generally wait for them to make th first move. Would love us to take the game to teams score one or two then we can sit back a wee bit. Hate chasing games or needing a goal with 20 to go like saturday
 
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harvey098

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  • Mar 12, 2018
  • #142
JCH 4 starts we have had 29 shots

Biamou last 4 starts we have had 43 shots
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Mar 12, 2018
  • #143
McNulty goal every 174 minutes in the league
Biamou goal every 1693 minutes in the league
Clarke-Harris goal every 154 minutes in the league
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 12, 2018
  • #144
harvey098 said:
JCH 4 starts we have had 29 shots

Biamou last 4 starts we have had 43 shots
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Proves nothing.
 

harvey098

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2018
  • #145
Grendel said:
Proves nothing.
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My original comment was that we play better with Biamou, that was opinion but the fact is that we have more shots as a team with Biamou playing.
 

Mild-Mannered Janitor

Kindest Bloke on CCFC / Maker of CCFC Dreams
  • Mar 12, 2018
  • #146
Grendel said:
Proves nothing.
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Wrong, it proves that his shooting is shit and that's why JCH is starting, MB, effort, running, improving but wont hit a barn door on a regular basis if it was covering half the pitch.
Not that I think JCH is quality but Saturdays goal, he reacted, MB wouldn't have as evidenced in all previous games bar 2
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 12, 2018
  • #147
Actually it’s 39 shots in Biamou’s 4 starts and 31 for Clarke Harris. Clarke Harris has scored 3 goals in that time and Biamou has scored none. Clarke Harris games were also against a Premier League side and a team we played 75 mins against with 10 men

To be honest I’ve never seen such a poor and limited player get so much support in my time supporting CCFC. If he was a youngster making his way and still had a lot of development to go then maybe I could understand but he’s 27. I watched an interview with a Rio Ferdinand a few weeks back (his book is also very good) and he said if a players main attribute/selling point is that he works hard that’s just a nice way of saying he isn’t very good.

The likes of Murphy, Maddison and more recently Nazon were widely criticised for being laid back and not working hard enough but they’re game changers and why they’re playing at a higher level than us.

Goals and individual quality change/win games. Not hard work.

Here’s the link to Ferdinand’s interview:

 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 12, 2018
  • #148
harvey098 said:
My original comment was that we play better with Biamou, that was opinion but the fact is that we have more shots as a team with Biamou playing.
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Which proves nothing - players are going to take more pot shots from distance if there’s no decent target man in the area.
 

harvey098

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  • Mar 12, 2018
  • #149
SlowerThanPlatt said:
if a players main attribute/selling point is that he works hard that’s just a nice way of saying he isn’t very good.

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Yeah that Kante is shit isn't he.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Mar 12, 2018
  • #150
harvey098 said:
Yeah that Kante is shit isn't he.
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Kante plays for one of the top teams in in the Premier League and his country. He is also one of the best holding midfielders in the world in my opinion.

Biamou is a striker in League 2 who has scored 1 league goal all season

Kantes main attribute isn’t that he works hard. He’s in the team because he breaks down attacks (which is a skill) and then drives through the midfield (also a skill) before releasing the ball to Chelsea’s attackers. There was a game against Liverpool last season where he made 14 successful tackles which was the most ever in a PL game I think, he’s an incredible player and every team in England would take him in their squad
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Mar 12, 2018
  • #151
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Kante plays for one of the top teams in in the Premier League and his country. He is also one of the best holding midfielders in the world in my opinion.

Biamou is a striker in League 2 who has scored 1 league goal all season

Kantes main attribute isn’t that he works hard. He’s in the team because he breaks down attacks (which is a skill) and then drives through the midfield (also a skill) before releasing the ball to Chelsea’s attackers. There was a game against Liverpool last season where he made 14 successful tackles which was the most ever in a PL game I think, he’s an incredible player and every team in England would take him in their squad
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He would get into any team in Europe I think he is far better than the cheat Busquets at Barcelona
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Mar 21, 2018
  • #152
clint van damme said:
do half time tables have much relevance though?
Accrington 5th and 10th but top of the actual table so I'm not sure what they prove.
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The pertinent point was about our tactics. Without a doubt, wherever we end up, there will be a massive ‘what if?’ The reason being is that we lost or drew far too many games against teams you’d consider ‘weak’ in the division, losses to; FGR x2, Yeovil, Morecambe, Port Vale, Cambridge, Colchester (+ arguably Newport) and draws to Chesterfield and Barnet. 6 of the aforementioned were losses and two more draws contribute to 23rd place in the ‘Half Time Table’.
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Mar 22, 2018
  • #153
clint van damme said:
do half time tables have much relevance though?
Accrington 5th and 10th but top of the actual table so I'm not sure what they prove.
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Fitness & stamina?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Mar 22, 2018
  • #154
harvey098 said:
My original comment was that we play better with Biamou, that was opinion but the fact is that we have more shots as a team with Biamou playing.
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JCH has made about 6 starts, compared to Biamou’s 20-30. How you think you can actually make the statement ‘we play better with Biamou’ with the confidence you have, is beyond me.

Forget the amount of shots or whatever we’ve had in Biamou’s last 4 games, here’s some colder facts:

Biamou’s last 5 league games: W2 L3 - 6pts GD 0

JCH only 5 league starts: W3 D2 - 11pts GD +3

Goals: JCH 3 - Biamou 0
Assists: JCH 1 - Biamou 1

McNulty also assisted JCH.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 22, 2018
  • #155
Mucca Mad Boys said:
The pertinent point was about our tactics. Without a doubt, wherever we end up, there will be a massive ‘what if?’ The reason being is that we lost or drew far too many games against teams you’d consider ‘weak’ in the division, losses to; FGR x2, Yeovil, Morecambe, Port Vale, Cambridge, Colchester (+ arguably Newport) and draws to Chesterfield and Barnet. 6 of the aforementioned were losses and two more draws contribute to 23rd place in the ‘Half Time Table’.
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Hopefully this will be suitably rectified on current form and seasons end .
 

ccfcway

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  • Mar 22, 2018
  • #156
Mucca Mad Boys said:
here’s some colder facts:

Biamou’s last 5 league games: W2 L3 - 6pts GD 0
JCH only 5 league starts: W3 D2 - 11pts GD +3

Goals: JCH 3 - Biamou 0
Assists: JCH 1 - Biamou 1

McNulty also assisted JCH.
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its black and white for me

if we had JCH all season, we would be top 3 now.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 22, 2018
  • #157
ccfcway said:
its black and white for me

if we had JCH all season, we would be top 3 now.
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Ifs and buts we only had Biamou and he bust a gut.

No argument who is the most effective no need for vitriol
 
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ccfcway

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  • Mar 22, 2018
  • #158
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ifs and buts we only had Biamou and he bust a gut.

No argument who is the most effective no need for vitriol
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not critising Max, he just shouldn't have been a 1st choice this season, like Pont isn't
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 22, 2018
  • #159
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ifs and buts we only had Biamou and he bust a gut.

No argument who is the most effective no need for vitriol
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He’s paid a wage and he has failed in his brief.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 22, 2018
  • #160
Grendel said:
He’s paid a wage and he has failed in his brief.
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Maybe not. Bet he’s not on more than £500/week and his brief was probably as a squad player but who knows
 

ccfcway

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  • Mar 22, 2018
  • #161
Sky Blue Pete said:
Maybe not. Bet he’s not on more than £500/week and his brief was probably as a squad player but who knows
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its £500pw plus goal bonus.

so, £500pw

(joke)
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Mar 22, 2018
  • #162
ccfcway said:
its black and white for me

if we had JCH all season, we would be top 3 now.
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I’m going to consistent and say ‘it’s only 5 games’ we can’t really tell. One thing is for sure, he clearly offers a potent attacking threat and offers another outlet other than McNulty. Something we’ve missed since Jones, Nazon and Andreu got injured or left the club.

Our biggest lost this season was Jodi Jones - a dead cert for player of the season.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Mar 23, 2018
  • #163
—————————-O’Brien——————————-
Grimmer—--Willis———-——McDonald——Stokes
——————-Doyle———-Bayliss————————
—————————Andreu——————————-
———-Jones—————————-McNulty————
—————————JCH————————————

Imagine !
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 24, 2018
  • #164
ccfcway said:
—————————-O’Brien——————————-
Grimmer—--Willis———-——McDonald——Stokes
——————-Doyle———-Bayliss————————
—————————Andreu——————————-
———-Jones—————————-McNulty————
—————————JCH————————————

Imagine !
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Still prefer my diamond midfield for that team, which I agree would have been amazing.

Doyle
Bayliss Andreu
Jones
JCH McNulty
 

Johhny Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2018
  • #165
ccfcway said:
its black and white for me

if we had JCH all season, we would be top 3 now.
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Or Jones or Andreu
 
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