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cc84cov

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #36
Grendel said:
Do you think with hindsight Leicester are in a better place when they sacked the guy who won the premier league?
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I don’t even see how we even felt we would score last night,O’Hare & Shipley have to be used as impact subs currently walker was on his own,half time needed to be changed we done fuck all until the 70th minute
 

cc84cov

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #37
SlowerThanPlatt said:
He shouldn’t be sacked but I wonder how much loyalty SISU really have to him
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Money is their game and going down Is a disaster we know that much
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #38
It's just hugely frustrating that we found something that was close to working against better teams and then chucked it all in the bin for no reason and played one of our worst game so far.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #39
Grendel said:
Do you think with hindsight Leicester are in a better place when they sacked the guy who won the premier league?
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Grendel, its extremely hard to take your opinions of Robins because despite being the most successful manager this club has had for 50 odd years you've never taken to him.

That in itself is strange when you've put up with so much tripe over the years, years and years of wasted cash and empty promises and somebody comes along who has given us something to celebrate you're still trying to look for ways to get him out.


To me it's terrible.


If we don't get it right this season, like Norwich, like Burnley, like other clubs... Robins deserves the opportunity to continue and have another crack... We aren't a big club anymore and he's the best thing to happen to us for a long long time
 
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cc84cov

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #40
Liquid Gold said:
It's just hugely frustrating that we found something that was close to working against better teams and then chucked it all in the bin for no reason and played one of our worst game so far.
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Against a team where our usual system probably would of won the game
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #41
If some people really would rather keep Robins then have a shot at staying up they belong on a different forum.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #42
Il be honest if Robins gets sacked I won't put my money into the club going forward, it's not as easy as saying yea but somebody else will do a better job... They never do here, and they didn't for 3 decades before him... I ain't waiting 3 more decades for the club to get it right again
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #43
Ccfcisparks said:
If some people really would rather keep Robins then have a shot at staying up they belong on a different forum.
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You haven't got a clue about football in general so I take that with a pinch of salt
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #44
Evo1883 said:
Grendel, its extremely hard to take your opinions of Robins because despite being the most successful manager this club has had for 50 odd years you've never taken to him.

That in itself is strange when you've put up with so much tripe over the years, years and years of wasted cash and empty promises and somebody comes along who has given us something to celebrate you're still trying to look for ways to get him out.


To me it's terrible.


If we don't get it right this season, like Norwich, like Burnley, like other clubs... Robins deserves the opportunity to continue and have another crack... We aren't a big club anymore and he's the best thing to happen to us for a long long time
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I don’t think he’s anywhere near the best manager in 50 years
 

cc84cov

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #45
That set up last night was utter shit ! I system we never use or have used for a long time against a team we all agreed we need to be taking points off,attacking bigger better sides playing so defensive against the lesser teams,points dropped last night without a doubt...we’ve spent the budget on 532
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #46
Grendel said:
I don’t think he’s anywhere near the best manager in 50 years
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Ofcourse you don't... But you're wrong
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #47
Evo1883 said:
Il be honest if Robins gets sacked I won't put my money into the club going forward, it's not as easy as saying yea but somebody else will do a better job... They never do here, and they didn't for 3 decades before him... I ain't waiting 3 more decades for the club to get it right again
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So you are more of a Robins supporter than CCFC?
 

cc84cov

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #48
Evo1883 said:
Il be honest if Robins gets sacked I won't put my money into the club going forward, it's not as easy as saying yea but somebody else will do a better job... They never do here, and they didn't for 3 decades before him... I ain't waiting 3 more decades for the club to get it right again
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I get your point but I also don’t want to see us drop levels again after such a shit few years
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #49
SlowerThanPlatt said:
So you are more of a Robins supporter than CCFC?
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Mate, I spend thousands travelling with this club every year, I've watched us appoint bad manager after bad manager and I'm not prepared to go through the cycle again... Full stop

It wouldn't be just, and it wouldn't be in the clubs best interest to sack Mark Robins

I'd rather stick my dick in a meat blender than go through that again
 
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cc84cov

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #50
Evo1883 said:
Mate, I spend thousands travelling with this club every year, I've watched us appoint bad manager after bad manager and I'm not prepared to go through the cycle again... Full stop

It wouldn't be just, and it wouldn't be in the clubs best interest to sack Mark Robins

I'd rather stick my dick in a meat blender than go through that again
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Staying up is my priority regardless of who needs to come or go
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #51
What have i missed, did we get relegated last night ??
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #52
cc84cov said:
Staying up is my priority regardless of who needs to come or go
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Well sack him then, you'd all get everything you deserve going forward...

Tragic this forum is
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #53
Evo1883 said:
Mate, I spend thousands travelling with this club every year, I've watched us appoint bad manager after bad manager and I'm not prepared to go through the cycle again... Full stop

It wouldn't be just, and it wouldn't be in the clubs best interest to sack Mark Robins

I'd rather stick my dick in a meat blender than go through that again
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Quite a few of the bad managers you say finished mid table in the Championship
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #54
Grendel said:
What else did they both do?
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Going by that logic Barnsley should have changed their manager again during the season as they were in the bottom 3 under Struber longer than they were under Stendel and only a late run kept them up.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #55
Evo1883 said:
Ofcourse you don't... But you're wrong
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Better than Milne a man who was interviewed for the England job? Someone who worked on no budget from the mid 70’s and recruited bargain talent?

I’d even put mad as a hat Gould’s achievement of survival in season 1 as an achievement

Phil Neal managed a respectable top flight finish with a very poor squad

Then there is Sillett
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #56
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Quite a few of the bad managers you say finished mid table in the Championship
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And?

When we were last in the championship, clubs were spending anywhere near what they are now and the gap was alot smaller.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #57
Evo1883 said:
Well scak him then, you'd all get everything you deserve going forward...

Tragic this forum is
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So if we get no wins for the rest of the season you are happy for us to keep Robins?
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #58
Grendel said:
Better than Milne a man who was interviewed for the England job? Someone who worked on no budget from the mid 70’s and recruited bargain talent?

I’d even put mad as a hat Gould’s achievement of survival in season 1 as an achievement

Phil Neal managed a respectable top flight finish with a very poor squad

Then there is Sillett
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Using this logic, hill isn't one of the clubs best either...

So it's fair to say you're wrong on this
 

cooperskyblue

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #59
cc84cov said:
I get your point but I also don’t want to see us drop levels again after such a shit few years
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That will not happen mate with Robins in charge. He in my opinion deserves and has earnt the right to keep us up and have the season to do it. Was I frustrated with the defensive set-up last night. Yes. I thought last 3 games we scored goals and looked like scoring, we didn't last night. We need to find the balance. But we will find it, I believe, with Robins at the helm and when we do we will see the rewards.

We need to start winning games but we have a run of fixtures where we MUST do that. But I think Robins needs the opportunity to do it
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #60
Ccfcisparks said:
So if we get no wins for the rest of the season you are happy for us to keep Robins?
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But it's a nonsense argument, one I'd expect from my 8 year old because it won't happen will it
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #61
Evo1883 said:
And?

When we were last in the championship, clubs were spending anywhere near what they are now and the gap was alot smaller.
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Yeah, totally different proposition now.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #62
Evo1883 said:
Well scak him then, you'd all get everything you deserve going forward...

Tragic this forum is
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Not for me yet mate I want us to play the 532 we’ve used for so long and done the budget on,walker & Godden will score goals its defence we need to sort...stay in the mix till jan bring a loan defender in maybe like Luton did last year with the lad from Spurs
 
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Magwitch

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #63
Ccfcisparks said:
If things continue as they are. Paul Cook anyone? We need to do all we can to stay up and if it means getting rid of Robins then I’m for it.
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Is there any blame on our owner ?
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #64
Evo1883 said:
But it's a nonsense argument, one I'd expect from my 8 year old because it won't happen will it
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You'd have to ground them for being so silly.
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #65
Evo1883 said:
And?

When we were last in the championship, clubs were spending anywhere near what they are now and the gap was alot smaller.
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Many had wage bills in excess of £30 million
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #66
Grendel said:
Why? They get compensated when fired anyway
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Keep their reputation, get a move to a bigger club, don't get a reputation as unable to work at a higher level.

Two fine examples, Warnock and McCarthy. Both taken clubs to promotion when others hadn't, punched above their weight - the inevitable happens and the clubs are relegated, struggle, and the call goes out that they're incapable of managing at that level, so they get typecast as getting jobs at fading clubs who want to pull their budgets in.

Better,last season, for Robins to have heroically missed out on promotion, narrowly, and then have a half-decent start this season, get a job at a better funded club in this division, go on to be successful.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #67
clint van damme said:
Yeah, totally different proposition now.
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On budget we will go down... I'm still quite confident we will stay up, which in itself would be great... It's starting to sound like the mackem board on here
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #68
Evo1883 said:
But it's a nonsense argument, one I'd expect from my 8 year old because it won't happen will it
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What if we ended with a lower points tally than the the Thorn season?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #69
Magwitch said:
Is there any blame on our owner ?
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As much as you would like it to be, no. Any manager who comes here knows what they’re signing up for - he has been extremely well backed compared to his predecessors
 
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Johnnythespider

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  • Nov 21, 2020
  • #70
clint van damme said:
You'd have to ground them for being so silly.
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Can we get Nick to set up a naughty corner and send them there for a think about their behaviour
 
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