eastwoodsdustman
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I think any protest HAS to be at home. If you start annoying other clubs then it could work against us even though MK are disliked by most.
We need all the support we can get right now. Pissing off other clubs is not the way forwardI think any protest HAS to be at home. If you start annoying other clubs then it could work against us even though MK are disliked by most.
Didn't Fisher say that SISU aren't worrying about us since we're 'self-sufficient' now? Well, maybe we need to make the club haemorrhage money so that they either invest or go. SISU will not take us off their investments if we're not costing them anything.
There is a core 5-6k who will not stop going, so the NOPM drive won't work. It's unpopular with some but maybe constant fines and points deductions are the way to get them to leave. Either they leave or it just accelerates our inevitable demise under this ownership.
I'd say the invasion threat in itself is a powerful thing, it surely triples the policing/stewarding costs that the club need to pay. Having people threatening to enter the field from all blocks and both stands will make their costs massive.
SISU will be affected by fines. It just has to be enough to get through this surplus we're supposedly running. Make fan action an operating cost, Villa got £200k fine for one invasion, imagine even just £50-100k every other week.
And about this myth that it'll make us unattractive to buyers, ffs even Beitar Jerusalem found new owners after everything their fans did. There might well not be anyone who wants to take us on, but surely we have to try and find out?
Yes but the idea of giving them money doesn't fit well
I would agree except that Wimbledon fans have attended in number both their games at MK
I find this quite disturbing that you could even suggest the like! The FA would pull the golden certificate and we would be an Acrinton Stanley with a load of fans with criminal recordsDidn't Fisher say that SISU aren't worrying about us since we're 'self-sufficient' now? Well, maybe we need to make the club haemorrhage money so that they either invest or go. SISU will not take us off their investments if we're not costing them anything.
There is a core 5-6k who will not stop going, so the NOPM drive won't work. It's unpopular with some but maybe constant fines and points deductions are the way to get them to leave. Either they leave or it just accelerates our inevitable demise under this ownership.
I'd say the invasion threat in itself is a powerful thing, it surely triples the policing/stewarding costs that the club need to pay. Having people threatening to enter the field from all blocks and both stands will make their costs massive.
SISU will be affected by fines. It just has to be enough to get through this surplus we're supposedly running. Make fan action an operating cost, Villa got £200k fine for one invasion, imagine even just £50-100k every other week.
And about this myth that it'll make us unattractive to buyers, ffs even Beitar Jerusalem found new owners after everything their fans did. There might well not be anyone who wants to take us on, but surely we have to try and find out?
You heard fisher he didn't like the protest Thursday so if he didn't like it then do it it again surely? Yes the club get fined and what have you but when you have got nothing you have got nothing to lose.
Yeah I completely agree. How about the fans from block 14 just marching across the stands with people joining as they go, a snowball effect as such. It could result in 2000 people marching towards fishers end, let's really see him shit himselfI thought that the movement of people from the seats high up in the stadium down to the front on Thursday night was very dramatic and really gave the impression that something was about to happen. Similarly when people started to move into the Telegraph stand the excitement and expectation levels went up. Gave the impression of fans on the move. I don't know if this could be incorporated into some sort of protest.
I thought that the movement of people from the seats high up in the stadium down to the front on Thursday night was very dramatic and really gave the impression that something was about to happen. Similarly when people started to move into the Telegraph stand the excitement and expectation levels went up. Gave the impression of fans on the move. I don't know if this could be incorporated into some sort of protest.
We need all the support we can get right now. Pissing off other clubs is not the way forward
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Did you go on the pitch on Thursday? Are you another one volunteering for a banning order and criminal record?Didn't Fisher say that SISU aren't worrying about us since we're 'self-sufficient' now? Well, maybe we need to make the club haemorrhage money so that they either invest or go. SISU will not take us off their investments if we're not costing them anything.
There is a core 5-6k who will not stop going, so the NOPM drive won't work. It's unpopular with some but maybe constant fines and points deductions are the way to get them to leave. Either they leave or it just accelerates our inevitable demise under this ownership.
I'd say the invasion threat in itself is a powerful thing, it surely triples the policing/stewarding costs that the club need to pay. Having people threatening to enter the field from all blocks and both stands will make their costs massive.
SISU will be affected by fines. It just has to be enough to get through this surplus we're supposedly running. Make fan action an operating cost, Villa got £200k fine for one invasion, imagine even just £50-100k every other week.
And about this myth that it'll make us unattractive to buyers, ffs even Beitar Jerusalem found new owners after everything their fans did. There might well not be anyone who wants to take us on, but surely we have to try and find out?
What are the away ticket prices like at their ground?Don't think any disruptive protest there would be planned. More a case of showing the sort of support new owners could expect if they got things right. The 7000 who turned up 2 or 3 years ago was a really impressive turn out.
Knowing our luck, we'll be 4-0 and people will start leaving early in disgust!!How about the next match at the Ricoh, when the match is over all fans refuse to leave the stadium.
Can I just claim credit for the beach ball ideaI like the beach ball idea, would look good visually.
How about next match beach balls on the pitch to disrupt the match, and then at the end of the match those who want to participate refuse the leave the stadium at full time to continue protests, if we could get say 1000-2000 that won't leave it would get attention.
They won't be able to lock up the premises till everyone leaves and stewards and police and others won't be able to go leave and will ruffle feathers.
A lot of people go on about apathy from cov fans but I think the last match showed their is still passion and fight from the fans, what we've lacked is leadership and direction. If we can get those two things the rest will follow.
Did you go on the pitch on Thursday? Are you another one volunteering for a banning order and criminal record?
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I find this quite disturbing that you could even suggest the like! The FA would pull the golden certificate and we would be an Acrinton Stanley with a load of fans with criminal records
But every fine CCFC pay is less 'profit' for SISU investors!!SISU won't be paying a fine. Coventry City will.
Their is NO perspective in our current situation!! Blinkers or not, Fisher was pissed off with the fans and the protests on Thursday! We've put a chink in his armour! We HAVE to keep the pressure on! Why wait till the dust has settled? If SISU stay, within years, we'll have no fans, no training ground, no stadium, no academy, no hope! They will sell and sell til there is nothing left to sell! Regardless of fines or not! Once there is nothing left to sell then they turn to the investors money and 'profits' as Tim Fisher likes to call it from us 'customers'. Surely fine after fine, will yes, hurt CCFC short term, but long term all the investors monies will be short coming as there is no return on no fans and shit fines!You have blinkers on. Can you explain to me what is hoped to be achieved by these types of protest being suggested? The actual goal you set yourself? Because if it's to get rid of SISU regardless of all outcomes as a good thing then you need to get a little perspective of our current situation.
And just paper over the cracks...it would also be useful if we get behind our boys, ignore SISU and pray we get a decent manager quickly!
Who cares anymore. We are going down!They've washed their hands of the club, we run ourselves, so points deductions are going to hurt CCFC not SISU. Surely, you wouldn't want that?
I'm also at a point now aswell where it's "fuck the points deduction"! If we keep getting nice big hefty fines for SISU it suits me just fine. Besides, a league 2 club of our size would be much cheaper for potential buyers too!
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We'd never be able to sneak enough stuff to throw into the ground to do that.We should throw stuff on the pitch when the opposition are attacking as it stops the play.
THIS....
As I 100% absolutely hate what has happened to our club, I don't think protesting is the way forward. If we protest or don't put bums on seats then nothing will get better.
We had attendances over what they said was the break even last season. So they changed the break even level by thousands
They can't change the figures. The point is the revenue was not meeting the player budget cap and the calculation is lodged with the football league.
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