You said people were suggesting nothing is in place. The club and UoW's statement says nothing is in place, that's why people are suggesting nothing is in place.
It's all what they'd like to happen, not what has happened.
I was answeringNo I said how was it known that no partnership was in place. I didn't say there was or wasn't one. I asked if it was opinion or fact.
That question has been answered.
A point has been proved, but on something I didn't actually say.
Thank you
I just hate the essence of people suggesting nothing is in place, as if they are the font of knowledge, or have inside info, when they are as in the know (dark) as the rest of us.
If you're one of those people who thinks unless you're just standing around shouting "it's all bullshit" you just blindly believe everything that's said, then not much more to be said really.
Has anybody said there is any of that? I'm not sure why you insist in making out people are thick if they aren't losing their heads just yet.lol, there is nothing to blindly believe, that’s the point- show me the plans, show me the agreement, show me the reality, show me anything. There is nothing, zero.
Just remember who bumped the thread, after it had subsidedI've got a headache reading all this shit.
I think that’s the earliest depending on what you would see as progress. I’m looking at 3-6 months and certainly the end of the year. Wasps are not going out of business any time soonI think it's quiet clear that there needs to be some movement on this fairly rapidly. I'm giving them until the end of October to see some clear progress.
I think there is a lot of wishful thinking on here we must not let that mask reality.I think that’s the earliest depending on what you would see as progress. I’m looking at 3-6 months and certainly the end of the year. Wasps are not going out of business any time soon
I think there is a lot of wishful thinking on here we must not let that mask reality.
I fail to see after the initial announcement 2 weeks ago there had not been more “meat on the bones” published, even if they haven’t secured planning or the exact location there must be other plans such as design, estimate build time etc, etc.
I've got a headache reading all this shit.
Whilst I agree it’s the long suffering supporters who want more than paper talk, we all know it can’t continue as we are now, the bottom line is our future.Literally everything will flow from the site TBF. That’s one reason why the last one was always pie in the sky, it would likely have to be redesigned depending on the site anyway.
Step one has always been find some land. Hopefully we’ll see that fairly soon. I don’t think there’s many options TBH, I’m still certain it’ll be by the Sports Hub.
I think there is a lot of wishful thinking on here we must not let that mask reality.
I fail to see after the initial announcement 2 weeks ago there had not been more “meat on the bones” published, even if they haven’t secured planning or the exact location there must be other plans such as design, estimate build time etc, etc.
Was the landowner or site ever identified?Surely that was the previous problem? There were schematics, drawings and Sandra Garlick then the landowner withdrew and this generated an outburst.
Was the landowner or site ever identified?
I didn't understand what you were saying at first and then i realised I had read 'and then the lawnmower withdrew and this generated an outburst.'Surely that was the previous problem? There were schematics, drawings and Sandra Garlick then the landowner withdrew and this generated an outburst.
What constitutes clear progress? I have to say I'd like my fearsI think it's quiet clear that there needs to be some movement on this fairly rapidly. I'm giving them until the end of October to see some clear progress.
The problem is if we're starting from scratch on this, it really could be a long, long time before things move forward in any meaningful way.I think that’s the earliest depending on what you would see as progress. I’m looking at 3-6 months and certainly the end of the year. Wasps are not going out of business any time soon
What constitutes clear progress? I have to say I'd like my fears
The problem is if we're starting from scratch on this, it really could be a long, long time before things move forward in any meaningful way.
Notwithstanding the normal timescales of starting from scratch, but we seem to want the light rail plan to be put in place by the local authorities, and them to build us a link road. tbh, local authorities usually want the developers to do the transport improvements as part of the deal - they'd probably want us to build any roads in addition to the ones already in process. The light rail scheme is mooted but, let's be honest, that won't happen for a decade, if that - so if we're depending on this to happen, movement will be non-existent.
Nothing will happen with this until the ECJ ruling. They're not going to tie themselves into a formal partnership and massive capital expenditure while the possibility of a ready made stadium becoming available is an option
I didn't understand what you were saying at first and then i realised I had read 'and then the lawnmower withdrew and this generated an outburst.'
Nothing will happen with this until the ECJ ruling. They're not going to tie themselves into a formal partnership and massive capital expenditure while the possibility of a ready made stadium becoming available is an option
People just get tired of gimps who don't really bother going to games going on in every thread. It's not as if anybody is saying they are excited for it and it's 100% happening.
Nothing will happen with this until the ECJ ruling. They're not going to tie themselves into a formal partnership and massive capital expenditure while the possibility of a ready made stadium becoming available is an option
While nobody is saying the exact location I think its pretty obvious it will be by the Sports Hub. Has anyone looked up where the land owned by the uni ends?Literally everything will flow from the site TBF. That’s one reason why the last one was always pie in the sky, it would likely have to be redesigned depending on the site anyway.
Step one has always been find some land. Hopefully we’ll see that fairly soon. I don’t think there’s many options TBH, I’m still certain it’ll be by the Sports Hub.
I think the next things we need to see are the formalisation of the partnership and confirmation of the site, which seems to be reliant on the finalisation of routing for the a46 relief road and junction so if we can get a timeframe on that we might have more idea when to expect some news.What constitutes clear progress? I have to say I'd like my fears
I think the next things we need to see are the formalisation of the partnership and confirmation of the site, which seems to be reliant on the finalisation of routing for the a46 relief road and junction so if we can get a timeframe on that we might have more idea when to expect some news.
Then we're getting to the stage of seeing plans. If, as the uni suggest, there is to be a public consultation in the autumn surely they will need to have plans to show by then.
That's if you believe the stadium is the prize and is going to be obtainable, I do not.
While nobody is saying the exact location I think its pretty obvious it will be by the Sports Hub. Has anyone looked up where the land owned by the uni ends?
If you look at the uni's parking plan they are planning a big car park Gibbet Hill Road before the roundabout with Leighfield Road. Common sense would say the junction will the a46 relief road is going to serve that car park as its defeats the purpose if you put it anywhere else. You can be pretty certain that will be where they are looking at.
As you say its by the existing sports hub so fits in with that, would make use of the new car park and the junction to remove traffic from Gibbet Hill Road and therefore remove one of the possible residents complaints.
I don't either. I'm just trying to see how Joy might see it. She's only going to go for the most profitable route. She may see winning that case as a chance for big damages and a bigger stadium potentially being available for a lot less money than building. Of course the likelihood of the council dealing with her is minimal but she has that mindset that is ' doesn't matter whether they want to, they'll have to'. Hostile takeovers are part and parcel of what she's involved in. If there's this massive stadium sitting idle eventually even the council would have to get rid of it due to the drain on resources and I doubt they'd be able to get a third party, like Wasps, involved again.
I'm sure council would explore every avenue before even entertaining the thought of SISU, including tearing it down for housing or some other development but I'm not sure if they'd need more decontamination of the site for that kind of use?
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