Captain Dart
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Look at some of the teams in the league above ours we used to regard as minnows.
There has to be a sensible balance between loving the City and hating Sisu.Right now we are not as big as Luton, the league table doesn’t lie. Historically I have always put us in line with a Derby, Southampton, Baggies.
Linking to a previous thread, this is why it’s critical that we shed this bitterness of not attending games and get back to supporting the club we love so we can play these teams again. As much as SISU are a bunch of cunts, the fans can get us promoted. My biggest fear is how far we fall IF we don’t get promoted this year
Tbh, with us looking good for the first top play off/top 6 finish in 46 years (the thing every gives the excuse for poorish attendance's), those that are not coming because of NOPM/SISU are the ones choosing to miss out on it, and cutting their nose of to spite their face. I'm sure many of them were happy to give their money to the club at the Wembley game, at last weeks fa cup game, and I'm sure many of them will be the ones moaning on missing out on Brighton Tickets.There has to be a sensible balance between loving the City and hating Sisu.
If we keep staying away, by the time Sisu leave there might be no club left worth supporting.
Think you have to look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself, 'Do I want City to get promoted here or not?'
EVERYTHING else is secondary.
You and I both know that loads won't come back, but if we do get to a playoff final in spite of them, I dare say most of them will be there at Wembley.Tbh, with us looking good for the first top play off/top 6 finish in 46 years (the thing every gives the excuse for poorish attendance's), those that are not coming because of NOPM/SISU are the ones choosing to miss out on it, and cutting their nose of to spite their face. I'm sure many of them were happy to give their money to the club at the Wembley game, at last weeks fa cup game, and I'm sure many of them will be the ones moaning on missing out on Brighton Tickets.
Is them staying away helping get rid of SISU? No, not really. They should put that to one side and just get up to the Ricoh and get behind the lads and push us through to promotion.
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Up until 5 years ago I would laugh at Leicester fans saying they were a bigger club. They haven't won an FA Cup of course.
The size of a club is based on a lot of things; primarily time in the top flight, trophies and fan base. However, even that is controversial as a fan base can be based on current attendances, previous attendances, the catchment area etc. We get small home crowds, but have a huge catchment area of people who would certainly associate themselves with the club. Our attendances historically are reasonable as well.
There are a lot of clubs in the Premier League that I would consider 'smaller' or at least on par with us. If the Premier League was recreated based on the club sizes, we would squeeze in.
The loads that wont come back. Id argue we never had them in the first place.You and I both know that loads won't come back, but if we do get to a playoff final in spite of them, I dare say most of them will be there at Wembley.
I find that disingenuous.
As I read it, the ambition of the owners isThe question I want answered is what is the ambition of the owners, are they content to leave this club yo-yoing between D3 & D4, if that is the limit of their ambition then I don't find it acceptable, CCFC is a football club not a profitable entry in a portfolio of businesses.
Disagree with some of this.
Leicester are not bigger than Coventry . Might be now but were certainly NOT previously. )
Leicester, bournemouth, Swansea, Southampton were all at some point in League 1, 5 to 10 years ago. Just gos to show whats possible in a short space of time.Leicester have however had much better attendances when they were in the lower leagues.
Historical attendances from the 60's and 70's and "potential" is pointless.
Bournemouth went down to the last game of the season trying to stay in league 2 not that long ago. Show's there is hope still. There is always hope for a club with our potential.Leicester, bournemouth, Swansea, Southampton were all at some point in League 1, 5 to 10 years ago. Just gos to show whats possible in a short space of time.
Southampton and Leicester were still averaging 20 to 25 k in league 1. Puts our atendances to shame
Bournemouth went down to the last game of the season trying to stay in league 2 not that long ago. Show's there is hope still. There is always hope for a club with our potential.
One of the reasons I can't give up is because I know that's when things will turn around and I'd come crawling back ashamed of myself for leaving when times were tough.
What do you base your opinion "we are bigger" than the teams mentioned?Slightly smaller than: Forest (European cups), Leicester (PL), Leeds, Villa, Wednesday
Similar to: Southampton, Derby, Sunderland, Norwich, Wolves, Baggies
Bigger than: Reading, Cardiff, Bournemouth, Huddersfield, Fulham, QPR, Bolton, Burnley, Watford, Palace, Stoke, Swansea
A combination of stadium size, catchment area, historical league positions and major honours in the last 50 years and, most importantly, because I feel like it.What do you base your opinion "we are bigger" than the teams mentioned?
Bournemouth went down to the last game of the season trying to stay in league 2 not that long ago. Show's there is hope still. There is always hope for a club with our potential.
One of the reasons I can't give up is because I know that's when things will turn around and I'd come crawling back ashamed of myself for leaving when times were tough.
Slightly smaller than: Forest (European cups), Leicester (PL), Leeds, Villa, Wednesday
Similar to: Southampton, Derby, Sunderland, Norwich, Wolves, Baggies
Bigger than: Reading, Cardiff, Bournemouth, Huddersfield, Fulham, QPR, Bolton, Burnley, Watford, Palace, Stoke, Swansea
We can be as big as we want to be.
I agree but sisu won't be here forever and I do believe the London Wasps experiment will fail eventually. With new owners in place and, hopefully, renewed interest in the club the council will be forced into being as helpful as possible to the club.CCFC is uniquely fucked in having deeply unpopular owners who don't want to go and no prospect of ground ownership. Nearly every other league club has some reason for long term optimism, I don't see where that comes from for us.
I agree but sisu won't be here forever and I do believe the London Wasps experiment will fail eventually. With new owners in place and, hopefully, renewed interest in the club the council will be forced into being as helpful as possible to the club.
Imagine a new owner got us up to the Championship, crowds back to the mid 20 thousands and they said "we can't progress further without stadium ownership". Under those circumstances public opinion would massively turn against wasps and the council would be under huge pressure to grant planning permission.
Leicester, bournemouth, Swansea, Southampton were all at some point in League 1, 5 to 10 years ago. Just gos to show whats possible in a short space of time.
Southampton and Leicester were still averaging 20 to 25 k in league 1. Puts our atendances to shame
As soon as I saw this my first thought was Derby.
Southampton always used to feel like they were paired with us in some way. Both premier league strugglers, then moved ground in the naughties.
Academy wise both clubs have a good reputation. Obviously James Maddisson hasn't spanked one in the top corner to win El Classico yet but give the lad time.
Bradford isn't a bad comparison in terms of potential size of fan base yet playing in a lower league. Also a one club city as with all above.
So you think they're just going to stick around forever?They have been here 11 years now and show zero interest in going. I don't see how it's going to happen beyond wishful thinking.
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.Not all of us.... :-(
You cant argue with that!and, most importantly, because I feel like it.
Bigger than a team that won 3 top flight titles - ok
I agree but sisu won't be here forever and I do believe the London Wasps experiment will fail eventually. With new owners in place and, hopefully, renewed interest in the club the council will be forced into being as helpful as possible to the club.
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
In the land of the tiny the largest dwarf is king.
You just need to move to a town with smaller people so everyone will look up to you.
Inside a Cadbury wrapper wasn't it?Where did that Frodo fella live?
I agree but sisu won't be here forever and I do believe the London Wasps experiment will fail eventually. With new owners in place and, hopefully, renewed interest in the club the council will be forced into being as helpful as possible to the club.
Imagine a new owner got us up to the Championship, crowds back to the mid 20 thousands and they said "we can't progress further without stadium ownership". Under those circumstances public opinion would massively turn against wasps and the council would be under huge pressure to grant planning permission.
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