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MCSHEFF: My future is here (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Apr 27, 2012
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ronan_cov

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  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #1
http://www.ccfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10269~2750339,00.html
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #2
He signed a new deal in November. Anyone know how long that deal was for?
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #3
Shame, done piss all for the first 1 and a half seasons back. Get rid.
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #4
The boy has been good on his day. Much better than some others that have been cack every match i.e. Bell.

He will be useful in League 1.
 
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SuperFred

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #5
he'll be a very useful player in league 1, no doubt about it
 

ronan_cov

New Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #6
it's hard to believe he played premiership football a couple of years ago!
 
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superskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #7
I imagine he will be excellent in League 1. Should be able to get 15+ goals for us.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #8
Nonsense. Who else would've scored the goals he got for us this season?

Marty said:
Shame, done piss all for the first 1 and a half seasons back. Get rid.
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mattylad

Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #9
form dropped off very badly in the last few games but over all has been one of the more consistent performers.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #10
mattylad said:
form dropped off very badly in the last few games but over all has been one of the more consistent performers.
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Can't say I agree.

Yes he gets goals which of course we can't deny, but the rest of the time he isn't very good at all. He can be shocking 89 minutes of the game but score a goal which is I think why he still gets a game.

Last season he had a few months when he was awful, the same this season.
 

ashbyjan

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #11
Just when things couldn't look any bleaker - he signed until 2015 season. Of course he's going no where, no other team is stupid enough to pay him the sort of money we have committed to - what next Bell and Baker pledge their undying loyalty. We are stuck with these wasters and their ridiculous wages will stop us getting the depth of squad we need to scrap in Div 1 - Bells 6.5K a week could pay for 3 or 4 Div 1 players for example.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #12
How did he do for Leeds in League One?
 

ronan_cov

New Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #13
Do you think anyone will come in for him?
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #14
I'm sure you know how the whole football thing works? More goals than the opposition, etc? Just checking.

Nick said:
Yes he gets goals which of course we can't deny,
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Marty

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  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #15
torchomatic said:
Nonsense. Who else would've scored the goals he got for us this season?
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So he wasn't absolute dog shite for us?? Yeah he scored a few, means fuck all though. still ended up with the same result.
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #16
Nick said:
How did he do for Leeds in League One?
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They got promoted when he was there. He played 10 and got 1 goal (a sliced cross that ended up in the back of the net).

Man of Match on his debut.
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #17
We'll have to disagree on that.

Marty said:
Yeah he scored a few, means fuck all though.
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Marty

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  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #18
torchomatic said:
We'll have to disagree on that.
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Still playing in league one next season, his performances at the start of the season and the whole of last season were dreadful. Rewarded with a 3 year contract. no wonder this club has no future.
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #19
Marty said:
So he wasn't absolute dog shite for us?? Yeah he scored a few, means fuck all though. still ended up with the same result.
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Correct he wasn't absolute dog shite for us (most of the time). If we had a few more players that could get goals like he has (including strikers) we might not be looking forwards to league 1 next season.
 

ronan_cov

New Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #20
Why do you all hate him? hes a cov boy!
 

covcity4life

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  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #21
SuperFred said:
he'll be a very useful player in league 1, no doubt about it
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agreed!!!!!!
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #22
ronan_cov said:
Why do you all hate him? hes a cov boy!
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Regardless of where he is from, he was actually in our top 5 performers last season (imo), hence why he started so many games.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #23
Rich said:
They got promoted when he was there. He played 10 and got 1 goal (a sliced cross that ended up in the back of the net).

Man of Match on his debut.
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But they told him they didn't want him?

He gets the odd goal which of course we need, but his performances are shocking otherwise. Can we afford the luxury of having a player who will do absolutely nothing for 5 games and then score a goal?

Against Doncaster last week he was abysmal, even more so after all of his talk in the CET. He looked disinterested.
 

We'll_live_and_die

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  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #24
Nick said:
But they told him they didn't want him?

He gets the odd goal which of course we need, but his performances are shocking otherwise. Can we afford the luxury of having a player who will do absolutely nothing for 5 games and then score a goal?

Against Doncaster last week he was abysmal, even more so after all of his talk in the CET. He looked disinterested.
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that could be down to a lack of competition for starting places. I think if you are surrounded with enough shit, you'll eventually start looking like it yourself. He just needs a bit of quality around him to spur him on again.

For me he has done a solid job (not outstanding) most of the time, but has been shit occasionally. It's easy to forget solid performances and remember the poor ones.
 

ashbyjan

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #25
Why should we love Sheff just cos he's from Cov - Jon Gaunt is from Cov and he's a grade a tosser. Shef has underperformed in the majority of games yet before nearly every mathc he is the one self publicising - beating his breast, claiming he will sweat blood for his home team and invariably spends the game avoiding doing anything useful or positive. He's a very average player with a totally over inflated opinion of his own ability - he has no pace, cannot cross, cannot beat a man and doesn't track back ever. Gives away stupid free kicks constantly having inevitably miscontrolled the ball. His only saving grace is he does pop in a few goals and he's better than Bell - hardly grounds for a three year contract and the unquestioning devotion of the fans.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #26
Nick said:
Can't say I agree.

Yes he gets goals which of course we can't deny, but the rest of the time he isn't very good at all. He can be shocking 89 minutes of the game but score a goal which is I think why he still gets a game.

Last season he had a few months when he was awful, the same this season.
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I agree with this, I think his knack off being able to pop up with goals is a good reason to keep playing him though in a side with few goalscorers.

He should do well in league 1, I doubt many championship clubs will be interested in him anyway and not any with ambition.
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #27
ashbyjan said:
Why should we love Sheff just cos he's from Cov - Jon Gaunt is from Cov and he's a grade a tosser. Shef has underperformed in the majority of games yet before nearly every mathc he is the one self publicising - beating his breast, claiming he will sweat blood for his home team and invariably spends the game avoiding doing anything useful or positive. He's a very average player with a totally over inflated opinion of his own ability - he has no pace, cannot cross, cannot beat a man and doesn't track back ever. Gives away stupid free kicks constantly having inevitably miscontrolled the ball. His only saving grace is he does pop in a few goals and he's better than Bell - hardly grounds for a three year contract and the unquestioning devotion of the fans.
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His scoring record isn't all that either, 8 in 36, 2 of which were penalties (possibly one more?)
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #28
Now, I wouldn't say I'm in the Sheff fanclub or anything, but I don't see what you see. No, he's not had his best season, but I think he can cross and beat his man. After Juke left he was the only player who looked like scoring consistently. I do think fans are too harsh on him.

ashbyjan said:
Why should we love Sheff just cos he's from Cov - Jon Gaunt is from Cov and he's a grade a tosser. Shef has underperformed in the majority of games yet before nearly every mathc he is the one self publicising - beating his breast, claiming he will sweat blood for his home team and invariably spends the game avoiding doing anything useful or positive. He's a very average player with a totally over inflated opinion of his own ability - he has no pace, cannot cross, cannot beat a man and doesn't track back ever. Gives away stupid free kicks constantly having inevitably miscontrolled the ball. His only saving grace is he does pop in a few goals and he's better than Bell - hardly grounds for a three year contract and the unquestioning devotion of the fans.
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SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #29
Nick said:
But they told him they didn't want him?

He gets the odd goal which of course we need, but his performances are shocking otherwise. Can we afford the luxury of having a player who will do absolutely nothing for 5 games and then score a goal?

Against Doncaster last week he was abysmal, even more so after all of his talk in the CET. He looked disinterested.
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Wouldn't say he looked disinterested but he was poor capped off by a shocking miss.

In the second half of the season he was a lot more consistent than 1 in 5, more like a 1 in 3 in the second half of the season which warrants a place in the side. In a side that scores few we need a player that can get goals from a deeper midfield position.
 

DH - Sky Blue

Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #30
Off the top of my head here's some of his goals since he's been back with us.

2010/2011
Doncaster (H) - diving header
Burnley (A) - beat 3 men and curled a chip into the far corner
Watford (H) - touch and low volley from an angle towards the far post

2011/2012
Reading (H) - Rocket from a massive angle not far from the byline into the top corner of the near post
Brighton (H) - Solo run from his own half and a 25 yard finish
Birmingham (H) - Planted a looping header from a static position over the keeper and into the far post


No doubt in my mind that he still has absolute quality. Consistent or not he can still be great and it's up to himself, AT, coaching staff & the players around him to get the best out of him. Would keep him in the Championship let alone League 1.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #31
Marty said:
His scoring record isn't all that either, 8 in 36, 2 of which were penalties (possibly one more?)
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Good return for a player not playing as a striker.

Please remind me how many goals in how many games our striker Platt scored?

We got relegated through lack of goals. Goals mean points. What is the use of having a striker that can't score goals setting up players that can't score goals. If all our players had scored as many goals as Sheffers, including our strikers, we would not have been relegated. Still, at least we have a scapegoat
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #32
And that, it seems, is the most important thing of all.

Astute said:
Still, at least we have a scapegoat
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theprince

New Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #33
If I was manager he would be one of the first on my list to get shut of, unfortunately he has over 3 years of contract to sit on probably on atleast £5k a week, when that is up he will be coming up 32 so all the way round it is dead money. Why would I get rid, not a team player IMO and plays for himself, always has done. A view shared amongst the dressing room I believe.
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #34
Astute said:
Please remind me how many goals in how many games our striker Platt scored?
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And Nimely.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2012
  • #35
How many times did Sheffers beat his man on the wing to find out he had no target to aim at?

Looking forward to watching him play next season. Sheffers, a fit, uninjured Cody and hopefully a striker to go with Cody and wr will score lots of goals. We all know what Cody can do at Div 3 level.

Before anyone has a pop at me I am not happy to be in Div3. It is where we are though. It is also our best chance of competing with our academy lads coming through. If we go up next season we will have experienced youngsters ready to have a go at the Championship again.
 
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