Manchester Airport Incident (3 Viewers)

[GIMOC]

That's unacceptable.

Why?

he refused to condone the actions of the bloke punching women in the face and breaking nose but instead to attack the police despite the footage

says it all to me and more fool you for sticking up for him

 

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[chiefdave]

please show me protests outside police stations of the night of an arrest in turn closing down a police station and making threats. please send me some links over the past couple of years. let me know how many you find. I’m not an idiot so don’t try to make fake claims

Google is a thing. But off the top of my head I can think of major incidents in Tottenham, Brixton & Sunderland. The incident in Sunderland resulted in a police station being burnt down so pretty safe to say that one was closed.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Why?

he refused to condone the actions of the bloke punching women in the face and breaking nose but instead to attack the police despite the footage

says it all to me and more fool you for sticking up for him

I've said they should be charged and they will.

Just because I'm not shouting and stamping my feet like you about it doesn't mean what you think you've accused me of.

 

[chiefdave]

please show me protests outside police stations of the night of an arrest in turn closing down a police station and making threats. please send me some links over the past couple of years. let me know how many you find. I’m not an idiot so don’t try to make fake claims

still waiting on all these protests you referred to outside police stations following someone arrest

sorry I didn't respond in the 10 minutes you deem an acceptable response time. I had to do some work.

 

[rob9872]

Google is a thing. But off the top of my head I can think of major incidents in Tottenham, Brixton & Sunderland. The incident in Sunderland resulted in a police station being burnt down so pretty safe to say that one was closed.

I'm not sure that's helping tbh as if anything supports his argument. Brixton and Tottenham were after Chris Kabba and Mark Duggan, no arrests. In Suderland (not race related) there were arrests. I mean rightly so as they burned the place down, but just pointing out not the best examples.

 

[shmmeee]

what police station? That’s London central where protests occur every weekend. I’m asking for actual protests outside a small local police station

Theres lots of police stations in London, and courts and parliament. Thats why people protest there.

I assume you think this is OK but shouting in a megaphone outside isn’t?

Seven jailed over London 'free Tommy Robinson' protest - BBC News

Thousands gathered in June 2018 to demand the release of the ex-English Defence League leader from prison.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[GIMOC]

Theres lots of police stations in London, and courts and parliament. Thats why people protest there.

I assume you think this is OK but shouting in a megaphone outside isn’t?

Seven jailed over London 'free Tommy Robinson' protest - BBC News

Thousands gathered in June 2018 to demand the release of the ex-English Defence League leader from prison.

www.bbc.co.uk

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again. Please show me police stations in resulting the police station closing

all I’ve seen so far is two marches by Tommy Robinson both in centre of London and at Scotland Yard which is not a police station

Come on. Thought it was a regular thing according to you?

 

[SBT]

Scotland Yard which is not a police station

Lmao

 

[mmttww]

Man alive, there's some good stuff in here. TL;DR = send them back. It would be a lot easier to have the chat if folks were just honest about what revs their engine.

 

[chiefdave]

I'm not sure that's helping tbh as if anything supports his argument. Brixton and Tottenham were after Chris Kabba and Mark Duggan, no arrests. In Suderland (not race related) there were arrests. I mean rightly so as they burned the place down, but just pointing out not the best examples.

Not sure what race has to do with it. I'm just pointing out that the idea that people protest outside police stations is not exactly a new thing or exclusive to this incident as GIMOC seems to think.

Not really sure why everything needs to become a divisive issue. The original incident at the airport should, and is, being dealt with as the law and due process dicates. Simiarly people protesting outside police stations should be dealt with as the law and due process dictates should they break the law.

I'm not really comfortable with going down the road of dictating who can and can't protest, even if the protests are for things I completely disagree with.

 

[GIMOC]

Lmao

go on. enlighten me? Scotland Yard is HQ not a holding place with cells

 

[rob9872]

Not sure what race has to do with it. I'm just pointing out that the idea that people protest outside police stations is not exactly a new thing or exclusive to this incident as GIMOC seems to think.

Not really sure why everything needs to become a divisive issue. The original incident at the airport should, and is, being dealt with as the law and due process dicates. Simiarly people protesting outside police stations should be dealt with as the law and due process dictates should they break the law.

I'm not really comfortable with going down the road of dictating who can and can't protest, even if the protests are for things I completely disagree with.

Sorry, I hadn't meant to bring in a new angle to add fuel to the arguments, but I do think race and protests are relevant. I'm not suggesting there is a two tier policing approach as we know if anything through stop and search, ethnic communities are treated more unfairly by police, but with sensitive riots like in Tottenham, Brixton and the Rochdale one listed above, they act differently perhaps with an unconscious bias not to intervene and scared for any potential escalation it could cause. As you've seen in the examples above where it isn't race related then they wade in and feel the full force of the law with both the Tommy ones and the Sunderland ones being the only others quoted. Hopefully there are other examples that disprove this, but I've not seen any.

 

[GIMOC]

Not sure what race has to do with it. I'm just pointing out that the idea that people protest outside police stations is not exactly a new thing or exclusive to this incident as GIMOC seems to think.

Not really sure why everything needs to become a divisive issue. The original incident at the airport should, and is, being dealt with as the law and due process dicates. Simiarly people protesting outside police stations should be dealt with as the law and due process dictates should they break the law.

I'm not really comfortable with going down the road of dictating who can and can't protest, even if the protests are for things I completely disagree with.

You said it’s a regular occurrence

it’s not regular at all, never has been

it sets a bad precedent if people think they can turn up at a local police station and threaten staff which meant the station closed and offenders released to stop the situation escalating

 

[GIMOC]

Lmao

come on. what’s so funny?

you do know Scotland Yard isn’t a police station don’t you? Or @mmttww?

 

[chiefdave]

You said it’s a regular occurrence

it’s not regular at all, never has been

it sets a bad precedent if people think they can turn up at a local police station and threaten staff which meant the station closed and offenders released to stop the situation escalating

How often do you want them, daily, weekly You're making out this has never happened before when clearly it has and will no doubt continue to do so.

You've even tried moving the goalposts to remove parts of the country because protests happen too often there.

Out of interest where are the reports of the police station shown in the post you made? Can't find any reference to that happening and there's no mention of it in the statement from the police.

A protest held last night outside Rochdale Police Station about our response at Manchester Airport has concluded safely, without incident. We understand the immense feeling of concern and worry that people feel about our response and fully respect their right to demonstrate their views peacefully

 

[chiefdave]

TL;DR = send them back. It would be a lot easier to have the chat if folks were just honest about what revs their engine.

This is it really isn't it. Just be open about your beliefs, surely if you think you're in the right (no pun intended) that shouldn't be a problem.

 

[GIMOC]

How often do you want them, daily, weekly You're making out this has never happened before when clearly it has and will no doubt continue to do so.

You've even tried moving the goalposts to remove parts of the country because protests happen too often there.

Out of interest where are the reports of the police station shown in the post you made? Can't find any reference to that happening and there's no mention of it in the statement from the police.

come on. thought you were a clever man

people as a mob turning up at police stations is very rare. the police station closed as a result. did you see the video. They even admit it and made threats to police

as for protests in streets, that’s completely different. They happen every week in London

 

[mmttww]

you do know Scotland Yard isn’t a police station?

 

[GIMOC]

As for the police statement. that sums up exactly my point

if you read the statement at face value you would think no problem

the video I shared shows a different slant

 

[GIMOC]

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lol - I think you need to know. Scotland Yard is not a police station with holding cells. it’s a police HQ

you’re making yourself look silly here

 

[GIMOC]

How often do you want them, daily, weekly You're making out this has never happened before when clearly it has and will no doubt continue to do so.

You've even tried moving the goalposts to remove parts of the country because protests happen too often there.

Out of interest where are the reports of the police station shown in the post you made? Can't find any reference to that happening and there's no mention of it in the statement from the police.

so this is peaceful?

 

[mmttww]

you’re making yourself look silly here

Yeah, that's what happening. It's not you windmilling at all. It didn't start with chat about the amount of force used during the incident the thread is about and then pivot to a dump of 'Muslims being bad' clips while you argued the semantics of what is and isn't a police station. I'm silly.

 

[duffer]

so this is peaceful?

Blimey mate, have you looked at the twitter sources you're using there?

I don't quite know the point you're trying to make, but if you're quoting people like (racist fraudster) Tommy Robinson, it's difficult to argue that you're coming at it from an unbiased or well-reasoned perspective.

 

[GIMOC]

Blimey mate, have you looked at the twitter sources you're using there?

I don't quite know the point you're trying to make, but if you're quoting people like (racist fraudster) Tommy Robinson, it's difficult to argue that you're coming at it from an unbiased or well-reasoned perspective.

doesn’t matter who the Twitter handle is. it’s the content

again what makes me laugh. you are more concerned who the twitter handle is rather than the video it highlights

says it all

not one person can discuss anything but shout about who the person posting the video

it makes me laugh how you guys shout Muslim but never talk about the wrongdoings

all I’ve seen on this thread is police brutality and laughing at twitter handles but don’t discuss any content

it’s like a echo chamber in here

 

[GIMOC]

Yeah, that's what happening. It's not you windmilling at all. It didn't start with chat about the amount of force used during the incident the thread is about and then pivot to a dump of 'Muslims being bad' clips while you argued the semantics of what is and isn't a police station. I'm silly.

you said Scotland Yard was a police station. It’s not. so you don’t like being called out but call me windmilling it’s brilliant on here

 

[Ccfcisparks]

doesn’t matter who the Twitter handle is. it’s the content

again what makes me laugh. you are more concerned who the twitter handle is rather than the video it highlights

says it all

not one person can discuss anything but shout about who the person posting the video

it makes me laugh how you guys shout Muslim but never talk about the wrongdoings

all I’ve seen on this thread is police brutality and laughing at twitter handles but don’t discuss any content

it’s like a echo chamber in here

I think people would take you a lot more seriously if you just said you had a problem with Muslims.

 

[rob9872]

it’s like a echo chamber in here

it’s like a echo chamber in here

 

[GIMOC]

I think people would take you a lot more seriously if you just said you had a problem with Muslims.

what are you on about?

I speak on face value

Videos are there in black and white

I have a problem with anyone who acts a twat

this topic is on the subject in hand. where I have mentioned Muslims?

 

[chiefdave]

But the stuff you posting doesn't show what you're saying it shows. You're saying that the was such a violent protest outside the police station it had to be shutdown.

The statement from the police doesn't say anything remotely approaching that. The video you posted shows a couple of photographers encouraging kids to throw eggs at a police station. While they obviously shouldn't be doing it not sure its the crime of the century or causing police stations to shut down.

You also claimed this doesn't happen anywhere else, then decided certain places didn't count, then decided it wasn't happening elsewhere frequently enough.

I'm not actually sure what you're wanting here. Protests should be allowed in this country, no matter if you agree with the cause or not. Protests which break the law should be dealt with accordingly. Nobody is disagreeing with that.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

what are you on about?

I speak on face value

Videos are there in black and white

Do you have a problem with Muslims yes or no?

 

[Sick Boy]

Well, they can. But lawfully?

If they are unarmed then it would have to be exceptional circumstances for the police to lawfully shoot them.

This kind of situation is literally what tasers are for.

They shot Menezes who was unarmed.

 

[GIMOC]

Do you have a problem with Muslims yes or no?

I have a problem with anyone who acts a twat

I’ve seen white, green, yellow, black people act the knob and call it out

we are currently talking about the Manchester incident are we not?

 

[rob9872]

The Hulk can be a right c**t at times

 

[GIMOC]

But the stuff you posting doesn't show what you're saying it shows. You're saying that the was such a violent protest outside the police station it had to be shutdown.

The statement from the police doesn't say anything remotely approaching that. The video you posted shows a couple of photographers encouraging kids to throw eggs at a police station. While they obviously shouldn't be doing it not sure its the crime of the century or causing police stations to shut down.

You also claimed this doesn't happen anywhere else, then decided certain places didn't count, then decided it wasn't happening elsewhere frequently enough.

I'm not actually sure what you're wanting here. Protests should be allowed in this country, no matter if you agree with the cause or not. Protests which break the law should be dealt with accordingly. Nobody is disagreeing with that.

you conveniently missed the hate speech part out standing outside saying get the motherfuckers

it’s magical how you try to claim the classic holier thou holier approach but won’t call anything out that goes against your narrative

 

[mmttww]

you said Scotland Yard was a police station.

I posted the top Google search result for 'Scotland Yard' which lists it as a police station. If that's the biggest stick you've got to hit me with here, it's a bit desperate.