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skyblue1991

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They are causing cars to be stationary with the engines running and trawling at 5mph with high revs in first gear. Also requiring police resource to manage. That is going to cause more harm than good to the environment; the irony!

Also do these people realise we are a tiny island and until the much larger nations do something (China, Russia, USA, India) our contribution is negligible

I'll be pissed off if it affects travel plans to Millwall on Saturday!

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Has Boris still got his water cannons?
 

NorthernWisdom

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They are causing cars to be stationary with the engines running and trawling at 5mph with high revs in first gear. Also requiring police resource to manage. That is going to cause more harm than good to the environment; the irony!
A protest doesn't really work if nobody notices it, though...
 

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They are causing cars to be stationary with the engines running and trawling at 5mph with high revs in first gear. Also requiring police resource to manage. That is going to cause more harm than good to the environment; the irony!

Also do these people realise we are a tiny island and until the much larger nations do something (China, Russia, USA, India) our contribution is negligible

I'll be pissed off if it affects travel plans to Millwall on Saturday!

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These people live on this tiny island. People are also protesting in other countries. Their aim is government action not direct reduction of their own emissions which is a drop in the ocean. They’re fucking idiots at times but they’re idiots with the correct cause.
 

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Be nice to see Greta Thunberg join them to increase their profile.



































Then get ploughed down by an HGV the annoying little twunt.
 
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clint van damme

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Why were the police trying to suck them off?

Imagine if 15 football fans sat down blocking the A444, there would be batons flying.
Maybe after the disgraceful scenes at the Sarah Everard vigil they've been To stop attacking women.
 

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Be nice to see Greta Thunberg join them to increase their profile.

































Then get ploughed down by an HGV the annoying little twunt.
I’ve got time for Greta - These people and Extinction Rebellion are constantly just pissing of people who just want to get on with their daily lives.

At least Greta took her issues out on the one person who could make a difference in Trump
 
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rob9872

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I’ve got time for Greta - These people and Extinction Rebellion are constantly just pissing of people who just want to get on with their daily lives.

At least Greta took her issues out on the one person who could make a difference in Trump
Nah - just reminds me of a young William Hague at the Tory Party conference. Sounds like someone is pushing her words when she should be out having fun. Plenty of time to be serious about the world and can't stand being told what to do by pretentious little fekkkers.
 

NorthernWisdom

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You don't see the irony in a motorway full of running engines at a standstill?
To be clear, I would be pissed off if I were held up, so I'm not going to go all hypocritical and say well done them ;)

However, focussing on the small uptick in pollution from a protest designed to draw attention to the large general issue is probably not the way to go.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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You don't see the irony in a motorway full of running engines at a standstill?
As shmmee says it’s for the greater good. Most new cars engines switch off but that’s not the point. A few thousand cars idling is kids play to government investing in insulation for every house to reduce energy use
 

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To be clear, I would be pissed off if I were held up, so I'm not going to go all hypocritical and say well done them ;)

However, focussing on the small uptick in pollution from a protest designed to draw attention to the large general issue is probably not the way to go.
Much like a protest about it that causes an uptick in pollution.

Next it will be vegan protestors going to Miller and Carter for a meal.
 
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NorthernWisdom

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Much like a protest about it that causes an uptick in pollution.
It's so small as to be insignificant. It does however draw attention to the wider issue, therefore the aim is a net reduction. This is an investment.

And as for uptick, one household in the world using coal is not an issue.
 

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It's so small as to be insignificant. It does however draw attention to the wider issue, therefore the aim is a net reduction. This is an investment.

And as for uptick, one household in the world using coal is not an issue.
It doesn't it just annoys people.

If everybody used the mindset of "just me won't matter" then surely that defeats the object?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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It doesn't it just annoys people.

If everybody used the mindset of "just me won't matter" then surely that defeats the object?
I think that’s the reality though Nick. You and me could do everything but without fundamental legislative change to the big ticket items we may well just tell our kids to tell their kids. Sorry we fucked up all the best but there’s no food and no water so fill your boots
 

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I think that’s the reality though Nick. You and me could do everything but without fundamental legislative change to the big ticket items we may well just tell our kids to tell their kids. Sorry we fucked up all the best but there’s no food and no water so fill your boots
So sit outside Boris Johnson's house and block that prick in?
 

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This is exactly it and cleary it’s working because here we are correcting that misconception.

What’s needed is government action, we are way past the stage of “do a bit of recycling and take your bike”. We need legislative change on housing and transport standards, government funding to help people insulate their homes and switch to electric cars, and government action to help industry switch to carbon free processes.

Consumer choice as a method for driving change is a total distraction at this point. People will switch when it’s easier and cheaper and that needs government to act because market forces won’t do it sooner.

We did this with leaded petrol. We did it with CFCs. We did it with single use plastics. We just need to stop pissing about and get it done, yes it’s expensive, partly because we’ve fannied about for a century on the topic, but inaction is many multiples more expensive in the long run. Rather I leave my kids a bit more national debt than a dead planet.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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This is exactly it and cleary it’s working because here we are correcting that misconception.

What’s needed is government action, we are way past the stage of “do a bit of recycling and take your bike”. We need legislative change on housing and transport standards, government funding to help people insulate their homes and switch to electric cars, and government action to help industry switch to carbon free processes.

Consumer choice as a method for driving change is a total distraction at this point. People will switch when it’s easier and cheaper and that needs government to act because market forces won’t do it sooner.

We did this with leaded petrol. We did it with CFCs. We did it with single use plastics. We just need to stop pissing about and get it done, yes it’s expensive, partly because we’ve fannied about for a century on the topic, but inaction is many multiples more expensive in the long run. Rather I leave my kids a bit more national debt than a dead planet.
Yes that man!!!
 

rob9872

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This is exactly it and cleary it’s working because here we are correcting that misconception.

What’s needed is government action, we are way past the stage of “do a bit of recycling and take your bike”. We need legislative change on housing and transport standards, government funding to help people insulate their homes and switch to electric cars, and government action to help industry switch to carbon free processes.

Consumer choice as a method for driving change is a total distraction at this point. People will switch when it’s easier and cheaper and that needs government to act because market forces won’t do it sooner.

We did this with leaded petrol. We did it with CFCs. We did it with single use plastics. We just need to stop pissing about and get it done, yes it’s expensive, partly because we’ve fannied about for a century on the topic, but inaction is many multiples more expensive in the long run. Rather I leave my kids a bit more national debt than a dead planet.
Nah you're saving them money as they won't need to fly to Spain for a bit of sun. Even better for your grandchildren. Your great grandchildren however might need to evolve to cope or move to Norway :)
 

clint van damme

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Aren't there already insulation schemes for houses?
It's a bin fire, government handed green deal to a 3rd party, American no less, and its been a total fuck up.
 

rob9872

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I dread to think what you’d have said about the suffragettes.
Id have probably told them that the day Ian and I agree on anything other than our choice of football team, that it's time to pack it all in :)
 

skybluetony176

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You don't see the irony in a motorway full of running engines at a standstill?
Doesn’t need a protest for that. Especially around the Dartford crossing area of the M25, can only think of where it crosses the M4 at Heathrow where it’s consistently worse on the M25.