Or maybe Thomas had just clashed with the keeper and potentially had a knock.
Or maybe Thomas had just clashed with the keeper and potentially had a knock.He gives us balance in defence and attack. Yesterday he did loads of decent work helping Sterling (in the way Baker did with Christie a few years back) as did Thomas in the first half too, to the detriment of their own game a bit. Shipley is a good player and the manager will pick him as he does what he’s supposed to do. I’m surprised nobody has picked up that Thomas made way for jones yesterday when Sunderland were effectively down to 10 men. Maybe Robins see’s that Shipley is more important to the team as a whole.
Better than both..no.. worse than them.. no. Thomas has no end product but up to that point he offered far more. A point made several times by the commentators on Sky. Bayliss too has far more to offer.He is carrying Michael Doyle. I like Doyle and wish he was 27 but he isn’t he’s 37 and it’s starting to show after an hour or so on the ball Doyler is fine but off it his recovery is wanting and tho opposition start commanding centre midfield, happened again yesterday. Shipley had to adapt his game early yesterday playing in front of a make weight left back and behind a lightweight winger and against some not that long ago premiership players, was Shipley better yesterday than Bayliss ? imo yes, was he better than Thomas ? Imo yes.
A team is a sum of all of the parts. We’ve looked disjointed whenever Shipley hasn’t played. With the others available it’s clear that Robins appreciates what Shipley offers and keeps picking him.Better than both..no.. worse than them.. no. Thomas has no end product but up to that point he offered far more. A point made several times by the commentators on Sky. Bayliss too has far more to offer.
I disagree with this. He barely makes a challenge so I don't get where this notion he does 'the ugly side' comes from. Bayliss makes far more challenges than him and yet still offers more.Don’t get me wrong Bayliss is potentially a class act I like Thomas too but Shiperly offers something neither have it’s called the ugly side of football all good teams have them.
To me he offers the same as Vincenti did last season. Limited midfielder with a decent work ethic and doesn't make many challenges. Difference being Vincenti got dog's abuse on here while Shipley is bullet proof with many. Similar to Chaplin being given exemptions but Bakayoko written off after 1 matchA team is a sum of all of the parts. We’ve looked disjointed whenever Shipley hasn’t played. With the others available it’s clear that Robins appreciates what Shipley offers and keeps picking him.
With respect you are talking tripeTo me he offers the same as Vincenti did last season. Limited midfielder with a decent work ethic and doesn't make many challenges. Difference being Vincenti got dog's abuse on here while Shipley is bullet proof with many. Similar to Chaplin being given exemptions but Bakayoko written off after 1 match
A good example from yesterday was when Sunderland were breaking down our right with most of the team dragged out of position. It was Shipley who appeared from the opposite side and got a foot in to put the ball out and break up the attack. I think Sterling had a better game because he wasn’t playing behind Thomas and had Shipley covering him.
MR said the other week “he does a lot of work fans don’t see”. I wasn’t sure what he meant but after yesterday I’m starting to see.
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These are my thoughts exactly. He's so easily beaten in one on one's it's ridiculous.Lol he kicked ball out for s throw in. Man of the match hahahah
All this ugly side bullshit. Opposition run past him like it's a dad vs son in garden. And he's scares of 5050s and headers. Ugly side lol
Only thing he offers is a good shot and fact he has a brain for right pass. He just rarely executes. Still potential to get better but he doesn't need to be a starter until that happens!
I think Bakayoko was written off by some before he played a match.To me he offers the same as Vincenti did last season. Limited midfielder with a decent work ethic and doesn't make many challenges. Difference being Vincenti got dog's abuse on here while Shipley is bullet proof with many. Similar to Chaplin being given exemptions but Bakayoko written off after 1 match
Is that an attempt at humour?Lol the home town kid fans are all same.
Paedophiles.
I have no idea how he missed those two sitters yesterday though. Grrrr!!!!I think Bakayoko was written off by some before he played a match.
I think you protest too much.Is that an attempt at humour?
I think anyone making a comment like this one, in what is a debate about the merits of a footballer, needs to take a look at themselves.
People will forgive lack of ability I guess if they see maximum effort and to be fair to Shipley he does this which nobody can really question. Compare this to “some of our own” amongst that abysmal team that went down to L2 without even a whimper who didn’t really try at all whilst in the Sky Blue shirt.He's our Poundland James Milner. All over the pitch, battling away, chasing and harrying and refusing to give the opposition time to play. A team is the sum of its parts, and Shipley is an integral cog in the machine right now. How people can't see his value at this level is beyond me.
Think he is good enough for league one - weird one although he hasn't really played that well this year our team looks more balanced with him in it.
There is a temptation to hook him and play Jones and Thomas both wings but think that would leave us really suspect defensively.
I think at the moment he should keep a start xi shirt...just!!!
Better than both..no.. worse than them.. no. Thomas has no end product but up to that point he offered far more. A point made several times by the commentators on Sky. Bayliss too has far more to offer.
You say that, but Shipley v Oxford played his part in two goals. By contrast, how many goals has Bayliss scored/assisted? 0. Likewise with Thomas.
Bayliss is a better player, but so far he hasn’t been that productive either.
Indeed, some of our fans are utter dripsI thought he played well today. He's not a 'jodi jones/Luke thomas' but he adds something to the team and gives us balance, shape and defensive cover. Made a number of important blocks and one of the reasons sterling seemed happier to bomb forward, he also tucks in and covers when bayliss bombs forward.
He ain't no world beater, but he's nowhere near out of his depth in this league. The lad is still only 21 and only in his second season of first team football. Give him a break.
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He hasn’t been a stand out player but I don’t think he ever will. I don’t like him on the left as he has little pace compared to our options on the right and I think this is why people are starting to call him out. Would love to see him in the centre, Doyle was overrun yesterday unfortunately but equally I don’t think Doyle looks as good without Kelly.
Always liked shippers, he adds a lot to the team
You being one of them.Indeed, some of our fans are utter drips
I think you should be ashamed of yourself.I think you protest too much.
Not at all. Next time reply to MY points. Don't use the people behind you to level criticisms at me. I can twist it in return as you have just seen.I think you should be ashamed of yourself.
He doesn't have a clue about the game. Hates sky so I assume cov is the only team he watches. It shows.You being one of them.
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