yes the amount of england flags and israel flags in people’s bio on twitter is pretty stark.
No they wouldn’t. You need to wake up and smell the coffee that this an ugly reflection of how mass migration has changed one our major cities. British Jews report feeling less and less safe in our country and that’s correlated with the increasing sectarianism in our politics. If a city being 30% Muslim makes it a ‘no-go’ area for certain demographics, this is a massive red flag and shameful episode. It also a kicker to our image as a successful multicultural country and the mantra of ‘diversity is our strength’.
you’ve put 2+2 together and got 5. you’ve assumed, like hiraeth have said, because an mp has said it people are going to follow what he says
My partner is originally from that population and no I’d imagine neither her nor her family would partake in that.
don’t need to, you know it all as usual.
Don't know for sure Tel Aviv fans wouldn't have been banned from a game against Nottingham forest though do we?
Im asking you , if its not to upset the islamic population then im all ears
There were worried about protests iand possible violence n Italy too when they played Israel last week. Talk of wil game go ahead etc.
Absolutely, we should immediately ban all teams from the Gaza Premier League from the Champions League.
It is an extremely ugly situation all round and I’m not sure why you’re suggesting I think otherwise. Maccabi Tel Aviv fans have an element of their fanbase who have acted like thugs, and other fans of theirs have suffered anti-Semitic attacks as well - none of it is acceptable. Where we differ is that you seem to be suggesting we should move to protect one religious group by limiting another. Not sure that’s going to result in the utopia you remember from 10-20 years ago.
We all have different perspectives and that's fine - I don't personally see much support for the actions of the Israeli government amongst many people in England, whether they are racists or otherwise - personally think that is another fringe group of people. There will of course be some that think like that.
Yeah I'm not saying it's not cos of Muslim population. I'm just saying it might have been called off in different locations in England full stop just because of the opposition to what's happening
I have mentioned the awful treatment of the Uighurs on a few occasions. Having watched a documentary on the brain washing taking place there, I was very vested in this story.
Are they banned cos they Jewish though?
Leaders from the UAE and Saudi have been warning the west for decades about the people we’re letting in.
Yeah. It's the SAG isn't.
oh yes the saudi’s the real friends we should be keeping
That's the same as saying Palestinians are not hamas. Yet that's the justification Israel and USA use.
Maybe it is their nationality and not their religion that causes these football away fans to be banned.
We were banned for a while (English)
I think it’s hard to be definitive about why this decision has been taken without knowing who even sits on the SAG that made it.
Awful regime. Really annoys me that we still treat them like they are friends
Funny man. Palestine still play in FIFA sanctioned matches and were in World Cup qualifying earlier in the year.
They probably understand the dynamics of the Arab and Islamic world better than we do.
I didn't think English fans were banned because of fears for their safety arising from people conflating their individual English or British nationality with the actions of the British government.
Not sure how many times I need to say that I don’t think the Tel Aviv fans should have been banned. Despite the ugly elements among their support, they don’t deserve to be tarred with the same brush, and you should deal with any trouble as it happens, not just throw them on the scrap heap. Can you say the same about Birmingham’s Muslim population, or should our working assumption be that they’re all “out for blood”?
Like I said it's not a good situation but its inevitable
Don't think anyone is going to be worried about regular football fans, far more likely the concern is around the very right wing Maccabi Fanatics who have been travelling to away games in Europe in large numbers and causing trouble.
Its entirely possible, or at least should be, to believe supporters shouldn't be banned while acknowledging this isn't a one off and other clubs have in the past, and no doubt will in the future, had to play without their fans in attendance.
Why are you putting something I didn’t say in quotation marks? That is incredibly misleading and disingenuous.