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Grendel

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #281
martcov said:
Probably because I answer their crap and expose them.
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So guy are saying the likes of Sick Boy, Clint, BSb are less knowledgable than you?

Christ you are deluded aren’t you?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #282
Grendel said:
Do you ever think the reason people ignore you as you are like the madman on the bus no-one wants to sit next to?
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...completely mental. If you sit as far away as possible he'll get out of his seat , come over and rant on and on about the EU . To compound matters the bus is stuck in an accident at Hanger Lane gyratory , the railways are on strike and all 4 tyres are flat. Even worse, you're only 12 years old and know absolutely nothing about anything except rap music and mobile phones.
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #283
Brighton Sky Blue said:
This is on a par with my mate who thinks the Salisbury chemical poisoning was organised by MI5 to derail the World Cup. Sorry, not buying it
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Buying what? Direct Marketing by social media ( in this case by Russia ). I don’t think Russia was the main player by any means, or that social media in the short run up could have convinced 17.4 million people on it’s own. Just another influence, late in the game and not as big as others. I have not mentioned Salisbury and, yes, that is a daft theory. To say that Russia has no influence on public opinion is also not realistic.
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #284
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
...completely mental. If you sit as far away as possible he'll get out of his seat , come over and rant on and on about the EU . To compound matters the bus is stuck in an accident at Hanger Lane gyratory , the railways are on strike and all 4 tyres are flat. Even worse, you're only 12 years old and know absolutely nothing about anything except rap music and mobile phones.
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Yes, you are totally nuts. According to Grendel you blocked me ( theoretically you are not going to read this - but you will ) because you are bored with my extremist views. Now I am blocked but you are still going on about me. So for much for being bored.
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #285
Grendel said:
So guy are saying the likes of Sick Boy, Clint, BSb are less knowledgable than you?

Christ you are deluded aren’t you?
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No. You just made that up.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #286
Grendel said:
So guy are saying the likes of Sick Boy, Clint, BSb are less knowledgable than you?

Christ you are deluded aren’t you?
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They have also been insulted at times by the same culprits.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #287
martcov said:
No. You just made that up.
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So why aren’t they ignored?
 

Astute

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #288
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Can't disagree with this. Cameron snuck out the back door with the cash while leaving his successor to pick up the shitshow he left for them. Sure I've already said it but I find Labour demanding another election to be completely reprehensible. Confusing too as they want to carry out Brexit in any case.
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Corbyn sees it as a chance to take power. And he is being as careful as he can not to upset the electorate. The problem is that people want to know what he really wants. And he has contradicted himself.

What people want is someone that says what they want and then keeps to it. Can't remember the last time it happened though. That is unless you count new Labour becoming more like the Tory party.
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #289
Grendel said:
So why aren’t they ignored?
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I really don’t know. Maybe you should ask you acolytes.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #290
martcov said:
I really don’t know. Maybe you should ask you acolytes.
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Perhaps you actually should have a look in the mirror
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #291
martcov said:
Buying what? Direct Marketing by social media ( in this case by Russia ). I don’t think Russia was the main player by any means, or that social media in the short run up could have convinced 17.4 million people on it’s own. Just another influence, late in the game and not as big as others. I have not mentioned Salisbury and, yes, that is a daft theory. To say that Russia has no influence on public opinion is also not realistic.
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A very minor influence to be honest so I don't know why you keep mentioning it. I think our media narrative has the most influence simply because it's much more pervasive, explicit and is repeated by the Tory party most weeks. Corbyn's mad, the EU is to blame for your low wages, immigrants are to blame for social ills, people are unemployed because they're lazy, most people on benefits are fraudsters, we can't afford to invest in anything but can give away tax breaks for 'job creation', etc etc

We meddle in foreign elections, some countries return the favour. It isn't new and it isn't one-way.
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #292
Grendel said:
Perhaps you actually should have a look in the mirror
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Actually I couldn’t care less about being blocked. In some ways it is even positive.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #293
Brighton Sky Blue said:
A very minor influence to be honest so I don't know why you keep mentioning it. I think our media narrative has the most influence simply because it's much more pervasive, explicit and is repeated by the Tory party most weeks. Corbyn's mad, the EU is to blame for your low wages, immigrants are to blame for social ills, people are unemployed because they're lazy, most people on benefits are fraudsters, we can't afford to invest in anything but can give away tax breaks for 'job creation', etc etc

We meddle in foreign elections, some countries return the favour. It isn't new and it isn't one-way.
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I don’t keep mentioning it. I just said that it is one of many influences, but is still an influence. Astute was referring to someone else or others
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #294
martcov said:
Actually I couldn’t care less about being blocked. In some ways it is even positive.
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I’m sure being mocked, ignored, ridiculed and having zero ability to persuade anyone of the merits of your argument is something that happens to you frequently to be fair
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #295
Astute said:
Corbyn sees it as a chance to take power. And he is being as careful as he can not to upset the electorate. The problem is that people want to know what he really wants. And he has contradicted himself.

What people want is someone that says what they want and then keeps to it. Can't remember the last time it happened though. That is unless you count new Labour becoming more like the Tory party.
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Yep he does, and I think he's dead wrong and will get a pasting at the ballot box if he tries it. The Greens/SNP/Lib Dems have nothing to lose from another election-they all did shite last time out. In his defence, the Labour voting base is more evenly split on Brexit than the other parties including the Tories which makes it politically difficult to commit either way. On balance, he would probably fare better campaigning for another referendum to get Lib Dem and SNP votes to offset ones he would lose from his own party.

One problem-he doesn't want it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #296
martcov said:
I don’t keep mentioning it. I just said that it is one of many influences, but is still an influence. Astute was referring to someone else or others
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OK well it seemed like you had it as a main factor-wires crossed maybe.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #297
Brighton Sky Blue said:
OK well it seemed like you had it as a main factor-wires crossed maybe.
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No he mentions it all the time along with Bannon blah blah blah
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #298
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yep he does, and I think he's dead wrong and will get a pasting at the ballot box if he tries it. The Greens/SNP/Lib Dems have nothing to lose from another election-they all did shite last time out. In his defence, the Labour voting base is more evenly split on Brexit than the other parties including the Tories which makes it politically difficult to commit either way. On balance, he would probably fare better campaigning for another referendum to get Lib Dem and SNP votes to offset ones he would lose from his own party.

One problem-he doesn't want it.
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Doesn't want what?

If it is another GE and Labour to win of course he should want it. Why else would he be the leader of the Labour party?
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #299
Grendel said:
No he mentions it all the time along with Bannon blah blah blah
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Yes. Quite right, for a change, about Bannon. I haven’t mentioned much about Russian influence.
Apart from the question of where Banks got his money from ( or his firm got the money from).
 

hill83

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #300
*Unwatches thread*
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #301
martcov said:
Yes. Quite right, for a change, about Bannon. I haven’t mentioned much about Russian influence.
Apart from the question of where Banks got his money from ( or his firm got the money from).
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You have mentioned it over 150 times on this thread
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #302
Astute said:
Doesn't want what?

If it is another GE and Labour to win of course he should want it. Why else would he be the leader of the Labour party?
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Doesn't want a second referendum
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #303
Grendel said:
You have mentioned it over 150 times on this thread
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No I haven’t
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #304
martcov said:
No I haven’t
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Oh of course this isn’t the Eu thread

It’s 225 times on that thread
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #305
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Doesn't want a second referendum
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That depends on if you believe him on wanting to stay in the EU or not.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #306
Astute said:
That depends on if you believe him on wanting to stay in the EU or not.
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I think he wants out but not on these terms
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #307
Grendel said:
Oh of course this isn’t the Eu thread

It’s 225 times on that thread
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At least you have a sense of humor.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #308
martcov said:
At least you have a sense of humor.
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No it’s a fact. Type in “Russia” and “Putin” and that’s how many posts you’ve made including either of those words
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #309
Why is the Home Secretary not aware of why people are travelling over the channel? Surely he can ask them without guessing
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #310
Grendel said:
No it’s a fact. Type in “Russia” and “Putin” and that’s how many posts you’ve made including either of those words
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No it isn’t.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 2, 2019
  • #311
Grendel said:
No it’s a fact. Type in “Russia” and “Putin” and that’s how many posts you’ve made including either of those words
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I found 107 Putin from me and 57 from you.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2019
  • #312
Grendel said:
No it’s a fact. Type in “Russia” and “Putin” and that’s how many posts you’ve made including either of those words
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I typed in Russia and got 87 for Grendel
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 3, 2019
  • #313
martcov said:
No I haven’t
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Russia and Putin together for Grendel = 144

Good game this. Dribbling 45 and slobbering 6 for Grendel.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2019
  • #314
Grendel said:
No it’s a fact. Type in “Russia” and “Putin” and that’s how many posts you’ve made including either of those words
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And, I got 180 Selmayr for Astute. Great game this.
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 3, 2019
  • #315
Grendel said:
You have mentioned it over 150 times on this thread
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No. Bannon 137 though.
 
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