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Grendel

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  • Sunday at 12:47 PM
  • #246
mmttww said:
Can we keep in mind that this is an event organised by one place of worship and be critical of it without using it as a stick to beat millions of people with incl. a Mayor who probably had no clue it was happening?

If we can't, we risk coming across as a bunch of pr*cks looking for an excuse to shout about people we don't like. Folks get excluded from all sorts of stuff because of all kinds of religious practices.

e.g. women couldn't be priests or have senior roles in the church. Religions and people who are involved in running places of worship aren't likely to be the type to bend towards outside norms at breakneck pace.
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What a strange response
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 1:48 PM
  • #247
Interesting article - who could argue with it?

KHADIJA KHAN: Despite Sadiq Khan's claims, Islamic law IS creeping in

Misogyny exists everywhere. But we're usually quick to call it out. Only when it's Islamic misogyny do we fall silent, excusing it as a cultural issue.
www.dailymail.co.uk
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 1:50 PM
  • #248
Grendel said:
Interesting article - who could argue with it?

KHADIJA KHAN: Despite Sadiq Khan's claims, Islamic law IS creeping in

Misogyny exists everywhere. But we're usually quick to call it out. Only when it's Islamic misogyny do we fall silent, excusing it as a cultural issue.
www.dailymail.co.uk
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It is
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 1:55 PM
  • #249
Grendel said:
Interesting article - who could argue with it?

KHADIJA KHAN: Despite Sadiq Khan's claims, Islamic law IS creeping in

Misogyny exists everywhere. But we're usually quick to call it out. Only when it's Islamic misogyny do we fall silent, excusing it as a cultural issue.
www.dailymail.co.uk
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Have you got a better source?

That's the Mail. Not saying it's wrong, but I don't believe a single thing they say.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 1:56 PM
  • #250
Otis said:
Have you got a better source?

That's the Mail. Not saying it's wrong, but I don't believe a single thing they say.
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Er it’s written as an opinion piece by a Muslim woman?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:02 PM
  • #251
Don’t know why the link won’t open?

Muslim Charity Run – Run for charity fitness and fun

muslimcharityrun.org.uk
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:02 PM
  • #252
Grendel said:
Er it’s written as an opinion piece by a Muslim woman?
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I did actually give a quick read.

Shame, because the sentiment is very valid, but it's full of wokery jibes and goes at the left wing and mayor.

Just needs the facts stating doesn't it. Could make exactly the same point.

I think it's awful that her dad wouldn't let her ride her bike and this exclusion is just wrong.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:02 PM
  • #253
Ask yourself: how long would a Jewish or Christian run excluding women go ahead without sparking national outrage?
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This is where she lost me, I’m afraid. She’s asking the question in a Daily Mail column on the day of the race!

The level of “national outrage” suggests to me that thankfully the sharia takeover is at least a few more sexist fun runs away.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:03 PM
  • #254
Grendel said:
Don’t know why the link won’t open?

Muslim Charity Run – Run for charity fitness and fun

muslimcharityrun.org.uk
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No idea

This is what I get
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:03 PM
  • #255


Just freezes on me
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:03 PM
  • #256
Three times I've tried now

I am out though.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:09 PM
  • #257
Grendel said:
Don’t know why the link won’t open?
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Otis said:
Three times I've tried now

I am out though.
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:16 PM
  • #258
Grendel said:
Don’t know why the link won’t open?

Muslim Charity Run – Run for charity fitness and fun

muslimcharityrun.org.uk
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You do realise I was commenting Otis strangely couldn’t open it?
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:17 PM
  • #259
Grendel said:
You do realise I was commenting Otis strangely couldn’t open it?
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Thanks. In the meantime, do you need help working the quote function?
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:20 PM
  • #260
SBT said:
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If it won't open, it won't open.

It's just a single click
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:22 PM
  • #261
Seems it’s sponsored by the major Muslim uk charity so clearly no problems seen

https://muslimcharity.org.uk/events
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:22 PM
  • #262
Grendel said:
You do realise I was commenting Otis strangely couldn’t open it?
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I am home and it still won't open.

Must be my phone.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:24 PM
  • #263
SBT said:
Thanks. In the meantime, do you need help working the quote function?
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Not really no. It’s interesting how you frantically try and deflect subjects like this.

Do you feel slightly dirty and ashamed deep down?

I was commenting on my own post as your laughing emoji was clearly the beginning of the predictable deflection
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:25 PM
  • #264
Grendel said:
Seems it’s sponsored by the major Muslim uk charity so clearly no problems seen

https://muslimcharity.org.uk/events
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Grrr.....

That won't open either.

Bloody left wing, woke phone .
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 2:26 PM
  • #265
Grendel said:
Not really no. It’s interesting how you frantically try and deflect subjects like this.

Do you feel slightly dirty and ashamed deep down?
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Did you want a discussion on the op-ed you posted or not?

I feel pretty good! Are you feeling happy today?
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 5:27 PM
  • #266

Female ban Muslim Charity Run probed over 'equality law violations'

The investigation comes after women and girls over the age of 12 were ruled out by a mosque from taking part in a charity fun run, as revealed by the Mail on Sunday.
mol.im
Good
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sunday at 5:40 PM
  • #267
Gynnsthetonic said:

Female ban Muslim Charity Run probed over 'equality law violations'

The investigation comes after women and girls over the age of 12 were ruled out by a mosque from taking part in a charity fun run, as revealed by the Mail on Sunday.
mol.im
Good
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I don’t see how it’s not breaking inequality laws.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 5:42 PM
  • #268
Sick Boy said:
I don’t see how it’s not breaking inequality laws.
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I sense a fudge coming?
 
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DT-R

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 6:06 PM
  • #269
mmttww said:
Can we keep in mind that this is an event organised by one place of worship and be critical of it without using it as a stick to beat millions of people with incl. a Mayor who probably had no clue it was happening?

If we can't, we risk coming across as a bunch of pr*cks looking for an excuse to shout about people we don't like. Folks get excluded from all sorts of stuff because of all kinds of religious practices.

e.g. women couldn't be priests or have senior roles in the church. Religions and people who are involved in running places of worship aren't likely to be the type to bend towards outside norms at breakneck pace.
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Is it not time that people admit.they were wrong. That the Muslim faith is backwards, old fashioned, out of touch, sexist, homophobic.... I could go on but I havent got all night.

To say as such isnt racist, it isnt islamaphobic, its calling it for what it is! Many Muslims dont follow their religion to the word. As with many Jews, Christians, Sikhs etc. They generally live by the bits that say "be good, nice people". But there are parts of Islam, and people.that live by them as a rule of life, that are just plain fucking crazy! Nobody can deny it. Its there in black and white. But to call it for what it is, is classed as racist or islamiphobic. Its bollocks! If an christian church set up a fun run and banned women, it would be front page news for days. People on here would be calling chritian faith appalling and outdated! Yet a Muslim group does it, and were cant say anything bad as "its only one organisation"!

Its bullshit, and you know it is!

Sent from my SM-S711B using Tapatalk
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 6:10 PM
  • #270
mmttww said:
Can we keep in mind that this is an event organised by one place of worship and be critical of it without using it as a stick to beat millions of people with incl. a Mayor who probably had no clue it was happening?

If we can't, we risk coming across as a bunch of pr*cks looking for an excuse to shout about people we don't like. Folks get excluded from all sorts of stuff because of all kinds of religious practices.

e.g. women couldn't be priests or have senior roles in the church. Religions and people who are involved in running places of worship aren't likely to be the type to bend towards outside norms at breakneck pace.
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Hahahaha fucking hell, you really are an idiot. Make an embarrassment of yourself every time you post on here, just stick to Gifs instead of typing words please! I’m embarrassed for you
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 6:26 PM
  • #271
DT-R said:
Is it not time that people admit.they were wrong. That the Muslim faith is backwards, old fashioned, out of touch, sexist, homophobic.... I could go on but I havent got all night.

To say as such isnt racist, it isnt islamaphobic, its calling it for what it is! Many Muslims dont follow their religion to the word. As with many Jews, Christians, Sikhs etc. They generally live by the bits that say "be good, nice people". But there are parts of Islam, and people.that live by them as a rule of life, that are just plain fucking crazy! Nobody can deny it. Its there in black and white. But to call it for what it is, is classed as racist or islamiphobic. Its bollocks! If an christian church set up a fun run and banned women, it would be front page news for days. People on here would be calling chritian faith appalling and outdated! Yet a Muslim group does it, and were cant say anything bad as "its only one organisation"!

Its bullshit, and you know it is!

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But haven't you contradicted yourself there?

That there are parts within Islam that is just crazy.

Agree.

But before that you said the Islamic faith is backwards.

Said many a time, I know and have known some lovely Muslim people.

There is a problem within Islam, but let's not make sweeping "Islam is backwards" statements.

And no-one was trying to excuse it in saying it was just one mosque. For me, I was relieved that it was just one mosque. We have had problems with individual mosques before haven't we and where they were teaching hatred.

We just have to stop tarring them all with the same brush.

"Islam is backwards" does not help.
 

mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 6:40 PM
  • #272
SkyBlueDom26 said:
I’m embarrassed for you
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the flirting is getting out of hand, now.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 6:40 PM
  • #273
And just to add, I have read the Bible and some of it is absolutely batshit crazy and nuts.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 6:42 PM
  • #274
Otis said:
And just to add, I have read the Bible and some of it is absolutely batshit crazy and nuts.
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Mocking Christianity, the new normal on here. Clown
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sunday at 6:42 PM
  • #275
DT-R said:
Is it not time that people admit.they were wrong. That the Muslim faith is backwards, old fashioned, out of touch, sexist, homophobic.... I could go on but I havent got all night.

To say as such isnt racist, it isnt islamaphobic, its calling it for what it is! Many Muslims dont follow their religion to the word. As with many Jews, Christians, Sikhs etc. They generally live by the bits that say "be good, nice people". But there are parts of Islam, and people.that live by them as a rule of life, that are just plain fucking crazy! Nobody can deny it. Its there in black and white. But to call it for what it is, is classed as racist or islamiphobic. Its bollocks! If an christian church set up a fun run and banned women, it would be front page news for days. People on here would be calling chritian faith appalling and outdated! Yet a Muslim group does it, and were cant say anything bad as "its only one organisation"!

Its bullshit, and you know it is!

Sent from my SM-S711B using Tapatalk
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All religions have crazy followers. I’d class Christians who think victims of rape should be denied abortions as crazy, for example.
 
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Otis

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  • Sunday at 6:43 PM
  • #276
And now you have fundamentalist Christians who want to take us back to ancient scripture. So, no homosexuality, women as subservient to men etc., so no women priests etc, or women in positions of power

I do worry more about the extremism within Islam, but am also concerned about the trend to take us backwards within some sections of the Christian faith.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 6:44 PM
  • #277
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Mocking Christianity, the new normal on here. Clown
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Have you read it?

Read it. Some of it is insane.

It's there plain as day. Read it.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 6:44 PM
  • #278
Sick Boy said:
All religions have crazy followers. I’d class Christians who think victims of rape should be denied abortions as crazy, for example.
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Yup. Many, many examples to be found.
 

mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 6:46 PM
  • #279
so to make sure I'm keeping up, the country which is driving the narrative of mainstream politics in the West having huge chunks of it's policy dictated by religious nutjobs is fine and we should follow their lead, but a mosque excludes young females from a fun run and that's a legitimate basis for having a(nother) casual Islam bashing sesh and a load of think pieces on integration? F*cking hell.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sunday at 6:46 PM
  • #280
Otis said:
But haven't you contradicted yourself there?

That there are parts within Islam that is just crazy.

Agree.

But before that you said the Islamic faith is backwards.

Said many a time, I know and have known some lovely Muslim people.

There is a problem within Islam, but let's not make sweeping "Islam is backwards" statements.

And no-one was trying to excuse it in saying it was just one mosque. For me, I was relieved that it was just one mosque. We have had problems with individual mosques before haven't we and where they were teaching hatred.

We just have to stop tarring them all with the same brush.

"Islam is backwards" does not help.
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It isn’t really one mosque as it’s the only such event that is actually run. It’s sponsored on the biggest Muslim fund raising site in the uk.
 
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