Immigration and Asylum (3 Viewers)

[mmttww]

Cool, masked goons and violent assholes that look and act like they were recruited at random and given no training in how to handle situations like this are scooping people off the street. You love to see it!

 

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[SBT]

Cool, masked goons and violent assholes that look and act like they were recruited at random and given no training in how to handle situations like this are scooping people off the street. You love to see it!

I’m curious to know how the supporters of mass deportation programs in this country would expect our own scheme to look much different.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I’m curious to know how the supporters of mass deportation programs in this country would expect our own scheme to look much different.

Who cares they should have no rights they weren’t born British

 

[PVA]

I’m curious to know how the supporters of mass deportation programs in this country would expect our own scheme to look much different.

They wouldn't, and unfortunately I'd imagine that's part of the appeal for quite a lot.

 

[chiefdave]

Cool, masked goons and violent assholes that look and act like they were recruited at random and given no training in how to handle situations like this are scooping people off the street. You love to see it!

Some of the things your read about, or see videos off on social media, involving ICE are truly terrifying yet seem to get cheered on by some people.

As you say its not unreasonable to expect someone representing a government agency such as this to turn up in a uniform, unmasked, with ID.

But what we're seeing is masked goons, in some cases with nothing to identify them as ICE, literally rounding people up based on the colour of their skin.

The Trump administration has been using four criteria to see who ICE agents can stop for immigration inquiries, according to court documents. They are: (1) apparent race or ethnicity; (2) speaking Spanish or English with an accent; (3) presence at a particular location such as a carwash or day laborer pickup site; and (4) the type of work the person does.

Then once they have taken people zero information is given about what has happened to them. There are families who report that weeks later they don't even know if the person taken is still in the country.

Its amazing that in a country with so many guns nobody has shot an ICE agent while being taken. After all when you're got someone in plain clothes jumping out of an unidentified vehicle grabbing people off the street surely it wouldn't' be hard to claim self defence?

 

[djr8369]

Some of the things your read about, or see videos off on social media, involving ICE are truly terrifying yet seem to get cheered on by some people.

As you say its not unreasonable to expect someone representing a government agency such as this to turn up in a uniform, unmasked, with ID.

But what we're seeing is masked goons, in some cases with nothing to identify them as ICE, literally rounding people up based on the colour of their skin.

Then once they have taken people zero information is given about what has happened to them. There are families who report that weeks later they don't even know if the person taken is still in the country.

Its amazing that in a country with so many guns nobody has shot an ICE agent while being taken. After all when you're got someone in plain clothes jumping out of an unidentified vehicle grabbing people off the street surely it wouldn't' be hard to claim self defence?

Yes, isn’t the whole point of the second amendment to protect the public from government tyranny?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Yes, isn’t the whole point of the second amendment to protect the public from government tyranny?

Not when they’re on your side

 

[djr8369]

At some point the UK will have to decide how much it really wants to imitate the US in terms of immigration enforcement

I do wonder is this what we’ll become if Reform get in?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I do wonder is this what we’ll become if Reform get in?

Wouldn’t surprise me if this is what starmer thinks he can do to keep them out when it’s completely the wrong approach
Reform are the best at whipping up anti democratic authoritarian policies Labour should be better than that

and I think it’s likely to be worse unless you are rich and have property especially if you are unwell

 

[SBT]

They wouldn't, and unfortunately I'd imagine that's part of the appeal for quite a lot.

I personally think there’s a gap between those who ostensibly support mass deportations, and those who fully appreciate the reality of how you achieve that.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I personally think there’s a gap between those who ostensibly support mass deportations, and those who fully appreciate the reality of how you achieve that.

I’m really not sure
Many people don’t give a shit

 

[Flying Fokker]

 

[wingy]

What's the effect on demonstration's for instance, I've heard stuff like I'll lose my benefits etc? Even without it?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What's the effect on demonstration's for instance, I've heard stuff like I'll lose my benefits etc?

That would be an interesting one
I wonder what the make up of both sides of demonstrations isn

 

[wingy]

That would be an interesting one
I wonder what the make up of both sides of demonstrations isn

Don't know tbh.

 

[wingy]

Their all talking like it's cards on the radio.

 

[wingy]

Who'd have thought a return to the stasi day's.

 

[rob9872]

Their all talking like it's cards on the radio.

Cards on the radio doesn't sound exciting, but I've listened to boxing and darts which are both pretty good, so I'll give it a go

 

[mmttww]

Cards on the radio doesn't sound exciting, but I've listened to boxing and darts which are both pretty good, so I'll give it a go

Nothing comes close to chess on the radio tbf