Immigration and Asylum (1 Viewer)

[mmttww]

Cool, masked goons and violent assholes that look and act like they were recruited at random and given no training in how to handle situations like this are scooping people off the street. You love to see it!

 

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[SBT]

Cool, masked goons and violent assholes that look and act like they were recruited at random and given no training in how to handle situations like this are scooping people off the street. You love to see it!

I’m curious to know how the supporters of mass deportation programs in this country would expect our own scheme to look much different.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I’m curious to know how the supporters of mass deportation programs in this country would expect our own scheme to look much different.

Who cares they should have no rights they weren’t born British

 

[PVA]

I’m curious to know how the supporters of mass deportation programs in this country would expect our own scheme to look much different.

They wouldn't, and unfortunately I'd imagine that's part of the appeal for quite a lot.

 

[chiefdave]

Cool, masked goons and violent assholes that look and act like they were recruited at random and given no training in how to handle situations like this are scooping people off the street. You love to see it!

Some of the things your read about, or see videos off on social media, involving ICE are truly terrifying yet seem to get cheered on by some people.

As you say its not unreasonable to expect someone representing a government agency such as this to turn up in a uniform, unmasked, with ID.

But what we're seeing is masked goons, in some cases with nothing to identify them as ICE, literally rounding people up based on the colour of their skin.

The Trump administration has been using four criteria to see who ICE agents can stop for immigration inquiries, according to court documents. They are: (1) apparent race or ethnicity; (2) speaking Spanish or English with an accent; (3) presence at a particular location such as a carwash or day laborer pickup site; and (4) the type of work the person does.

Then once they have taken people zero information is given about what has happened to them. There are families who report that weeks later they don't even know if the person taken is still in the country.

Its amazing that in a country with so many guns nobody has shot an ICE agent while being taken. After all when you're got someone in plain clothes jumping out of an unidentified vehicle grabbing people off the street surely it wouldn't' be hard to claim self defence?

 

[djr8369]

Some of the things your read about, or see videos off on social media, involving ICE are truly terrifying yet seem to get cheered on by some people.

As you say its not unreasonable to expect someone representing a government agency such as this to turn up in a uniform, unmasked, with ID.

But what we're seeing is masked goons, in some cases with nothing to identify them as ICE, literally rounding people up based on the colour of their skin.

Then once they have taken people zero information is given about what has happened to them. There are families who report that weeks later they don't even know if the person taken is still in the country.

Its amazing that in a country with so many guns nobody has shot an ICE agent while being taken. After all when you're got someone in plain clothes jumping out of an unidentified vehicle grabbing people off the street surely it wouldn't' be hard to claim self defence?

Yes, isn’t the whole point of the second amendment to protect the public from government tyranny?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Yes, isn’t the whole point of the second amendment to protect the public from government tyranny?

Not when they’re on your side

 

[djr8369]

At some point the UK will have to decide how much it really wants to imitate the US in terms of immigration enforcement

I do wonder is this what we’ll become if Reform get in?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I do wonder is this what we’ll become if Reform get in?

Wouldn’t surprise me if this is what starmer thinks he can do to keep them out when it’s completely the wrong approach
Reform are the best at whipping up anti democratic authoritarian policies Labour should be better than that

and I think it’s likely to be worse unless you are rich and have property especially if you are unwell

 

[SBT]

They wouldn't, and unfortunately I'd imagine that's part of the appeal for quite a lot.

I personally think there’s a gap between those who ostensibly support mass deportations, and those who fully appreciate the reality of how you achieve that.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I personally think there’s a gap between those who ostensibly support mass deportations, and those who fully appreciate the reality of how you achieve that.

I’m really not sure
Many people don’t give a shit

 

[Flying Fokker]

 

[wingy]

What's the effect on demonstration's for instance, I've heard stuff like I'll lose my benefits etc? Even without it?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What's the effect on demonstration's for instance, I've heard stuff like I'll lose my benefits etc?

That would be an interesting one
I wonder what the make up of both sides of demonstrations isn

 

[wingy]

That would be an interesting one
I wonder what the make up of both sides of demonstrations isn

Don't know tbh.

 

[wingy]

Their all talking like it's cards on the radio.

 

[wingy]

Who'd have thought a return to the stasi day's.

 

[rob9872]

Their all talking like it's cards on the radio.

Cards on the radio doesn't sound exciting, but I've listened to boxing and darts which are both pretty good, so I'll give it a go

 

[mmttww]

Cards on the radio doesn't sound exciting, but I've listened to boxing and darts which are both pretty good, so I'll give it a go

Nothing comes close to chess on the radio tbf

 

[chiefdave]

never heard of this chap before but would be interested to know the wider context of what he's saying and how much truth there is in it.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

never heard of this chap before but would be interested to know the wider context of what he's saying and how much truth there is in it.

Starmer will get the blame for this too

 

[Otis]

This is NOT trying to stir up trouble on any level

THIS is what makes me proud to be British.

Freedom of Folkestone Parade

Hundreds of Gurkhas here. A celebration and recognition of all that they have done for us (Kent is where so many Nepalese settled)








Lovely ceremony and now they are marching up the promenade to the bandstand.

This is Folkestone, this is Kent, this is England.

Not one England flag to be seen anywhere. Why not?

Lots of mini Union flags, but handed out by the event organisers

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Lots of Ghurkas around the Nuneaton area, a few restaurants and clubs they own. They integrate very well and have always been well liked

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

On the other scale you have the muslim fun run in London today where women over the age of 12 are banned. Bit sexist isn't it!

 

[Otis]

Lots of Ghurkas around the Nuneaton area, a few restaurants and clubs they own. They integrate very well and have always been well liked

Always?

Even when we were fought against them in the Anglo - Nepalese war?

 

[mmttww]

On the other scale you have the muslim fun run in London today where women over the age of 12 are banned. Bit sexist isn't it!

wtf is that about? Has there been anything said about the reason behind it because I can't think of a good one.

 

[Otis]

On the other scale you have the muslim fun run in London today where women over the age of 12 are banned. Bit sexist isn't it!

Just one mosque isn't it?

Not saying it's right at all and should rightly be questioned and challenged, but I believe it's just one single mosque

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Just one mosque isn't it?

Not saying it's right at all and should rightly be questioned and challenged, but I believe it's just one single mosque

Where women have quoted they would like to take part, not very inclusive

 

[Otis]

Where women have quoted they would like to take part, not very inclusive

I agree.

It is just one mosque though. Definitely needs challenging.

 

[Grendel]

Just one mosque isn't it?

Not saying it's right at all and should rightly be questioned and challenged, but I believe it's just one single mosque

Looks somewhat bigger as an event than that

Muslim Charity Run – Run for charity fitness and fun

muslimcharityrun.org.uk

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Always?

Even when we were fought against them in the Anglo - Nepalese war?

I was more thinking the 2nd world war and after

 

[Otis]

Looks somewhat bigger as an event than that

Muslim Charity Run – Run for charity fitness and fun

muslimcharityrun.org.uk

It's not opening for me

If it's the case elsewhere, that should not be allowed.

 

[Otis]

I was more thinking the 2nd world war and beyond

Yeah, they have integrated in many ways

Lots of Nepalese restaurants down here. I would say they do tend to keep themselves to themselves, but do always seem pleasant when you do get occasion to talk to them.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

I doubt Sadiq Kahn will be to bothered, he's probably in it

 

[mmttww]

Can we keep in mind that this is an event organised by one place of worship and be critical of it without using it as a stick to beat millions of people with incl. a Mayor who probably had no clue it was happening?

If we can't, we risk coming across as a bunch of pr*cks looking for an excuse to shout about people we don't like. Folks get excluded from all sorts of stuff because of all kinds of religious practices.

e.g. women couldn't be priests or have senior roles in the church. Religions and people who are involved in running places of worship aren't likely to be the type to bend towards outside norms at breakneck pace.