Immigration and Asylum (14 Viewers)

[Mucca Mad Boys]

It was a joke. Are we not allowed any humour on here amongst the many arguments?

Fair enough, it was SBT that was referencing the ‘workhouse’ and therefore, thought you were echoing that sentiment.

 

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[Mucca Mad Boys]

Another hack on BBC QT claiming small boat migrants are ‘doctors, nurses, engineers and scientists’…

 

[Grendel]

Good that you think my wife is pulling a con with a visual impairment G

It’s not a con but should the state pay regardless of earnings?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Another hack on BBC QT claiming some asylum seekers are ‘doctors, nurses, engineers and scientists’…

An important correction there.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

An important correction there.

If we’re being honest, the chances are that small boat migrants are delivering takeaways, living on the welfare state than being doctors, nurses engineers or scientists.

She’s using a trope to avoid difficult questions.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If we’re being honest, the chances are that small boat migrants are delivering takeaways, living on the welfare state than being doctors, nurses engineers or scientists.

She’s using a trope to avoid difficult questions.

She didn’t mention small boats once was my point. But let’s suppose she did, some of them will be skilled workers.

Again coming back to these attempts at smearing everyone in an unsavoury fashion and that if they all just fucked off we’d have a land of milk and honey.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

She didn’t mention small boats once was my point. But let’s suppose she did, some of them will be skilled workers.

Again coming back to these attempts at smearing everyone in an unsavoury fashion and that if they all just fucked off we’d have a land of milk and honey.

Do you have a %?

The vast majority will be unskilled economic migrants. Thats the reality and just because less than 1% of them may be doctors does not justify people like this comedian parroting this phrase.

IIRC, the other day you were questioning who even says ‘doctors, nurses, engineers and scientists’ and yet, when presented with a few examples the conversation turns to ‘well some are so it’s not wrong’.

At best, we have around 2k refugee doctors (with qualifications) in total. So it’s fair to say that less than 1% of asylum seekers will be doctors in a given year.

So yeah, I’m tired of idiots like Zoe Lyons misleading the public.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Do you have a %?

The vast majority will be unskilled economic migrants. Thats the reality and just because less than 1% of them may be doctors does not justify people like this comedian parroting this phrase.

IIRC, the other day you were questioning who even says ‘doctors, nurses, engineers and scientists’ and yet, when presented with a few examples the conversation turns to ‘well some are so it’s not wrong’.

At best, we have around 2k refugee doctors (with qualifications) in total. So it’s fair to say that less than 1% of asylum seekers will be doctors in a given year.

So yeah, I’m tired of idiots like Zoe Lyons misleading the public.

Well if you ignore everyone who is skilled, yes they are all unskilled. The thing is that I'm actually largely with you on what a successful immigration and asylum policy/outcome would look like, I just dislike the smearing that goes on.

She even joined in on the 'get rid of them if they come here illegally' line which breaches the refugee convention, but apparently that's not enough.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Well if you ignore everyone who is skilled, yes they are all unskilled. The thing is that I'm actually largely with you on what a successful immigration and asylum policy/outcome would look like, I just dislike the smearing that goes on.

She even joined in on the 'get rid of them if they come here illegally' line which breaches the refugee convention, but apparently that's not enough.

The thing about conventions is that they’re not laws… you don’t actually have follow them. If we have to suspend or leave conventions to achieve the political goals, so be it.

What’s the % of skilled workers who are asylum seekers?

Post-Brexit, only around 5% of arrivals were skilled workers so I’m deeply sceptical that figure is higher for people who arrive illegally.