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Grendel

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  • Today at 2:57 PM
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SBT said:
What proportion specifically? Or is “large” as specific as we’re going to get from you on this?
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Whose “we”?
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 2:59 PM
  • #1,157
Grendel said:
Who’s “we”?
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Well there are multiple people now asking you for clarity on what should be a straightforward question - are you not able to answer it?
 

Grendel

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  • Today at 3:02 PM
  • #1,158
SBT said:
Well there are multiple people now asking you for clarity on what should be a straightforward question - are you not able to answer it?
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I think “multiple” is something of a stretch. It’s the same hapless crew of you, PVA (who just follows a certain crowd) and the bloke who didn’t even know you had to be in parliament to be Prime Minister.

What’s fascinating is how you rush on threads like this when a certain minority group is commented on but avoid commenting on comments like “everyone who votes reform and Tory don’t like brown people”

Why is that?
 
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PVA

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  • Today at 3:04 PM
  • #1,159
Grendel said:
I think “multiple” is something of a stretch. It’s the same hapless crew of you, PVA (who just follows a certain crowd) and the bloke who didn’t even know you had to be in parliament to be Prime Minister.

What’s fascinating is how you rush on threads like this when a certain minority group is commented on but avoid commenting on comments like “everyone who votes reform and Tory don’t like brown people”

Why is that?
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I made one post - pointing out the article you posted, which it seems you have based your claim on that you are now struggling to back up, is bollocks.
 

Grendel

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  • Today at 3:05 PM
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PVA said:
I made one post - pointing out the article you posted, which it seems you have based your claim on that you are now struggling to back up, is bollocks.
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So do you agree with the comments made in the Casey report on ethnicity being a major factor - is she wrong?
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 3:05 PM
  • #1,161
Grendel said:
I think “multiple” is something of a stretch. It’s the same hapless crew of you, PVA (who just follows a certain crowd) and the bloke who didn’t even know you had to be in parliament to be Prime Minister.

What’s fascinating is how you rush on threads like this when a certain minority group is commented on but avoid commenting on comments like “everyone who votes reform and Tory don’t like brown people”

Why is that?
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I swear your filibustering never used to be this obvious, you run out of steam so quickly these days
 
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PVA

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  • Today at 3:07 PM
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Grendel said:
So do you agree with the comments made in the Casey report on ethnicity being a major factor - is she wrong?
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No but I do disagree with this statement:

"a large proportion of Pakistani Muslim men who are racist towards white girls and view them as white trash fit only for their sexual gratification"
 

mmttww

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  • Today at 3:08 PM
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Grendel said:
It’s the same hapless crew...
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a bit rich when you're windmilling and whatabouting to avoid a fairly simple question or offer something that backs up a fairly sweeping statement.
 

Grendel

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  • Today at 3:08 PM
  • #1,164
PVA said:
No but I do disagree with this statement:

"a large proportion of Pakistani Muslim men who are racist towards white girls and view them as white trash fit only for their sexual gratification"
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So you do agree with her comments is racially disproportionate? Sorry I thought you didn’t? Is it?
 
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PVA

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  • Today at 3:09 PM
  • #1,165
Grendel said:
So you do agree with her comments is racially disproportionate? Sorry I thought you didn’t? Is it?
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there is quite a difference between

"disproportionate numbers of suspects from Asian ethnic backgrounds"

and

"a large proportion of Pakistani Muslim men who are racist towards white girls and view them as white trash fit only for their sexual gratification"


But you crack on
 

Grendel

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  • Today at 3:10 PM
  • #1,166
mmttww said:
a bit rich when you're windmilling and whatabouting to avoid a fairly simple question or offer something that backs up a fairly sweeping statement.
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Im not windmilling anything. Pakistani men groom white vunerable girls - tell the victims it’s not racially motivated

Shame on you
 

Grendel

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  • Today at 3:10 PM
  • #1,167
PVA said:
there is quite a difference between

"disproportionate numbers of suspects from Asian ethnic backgrounds"

and

"a large proportion of Pakistani Muslim men who are racist towards white girls and view them as white trash fit only for their sexual gratification"


But you crack on
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So are grooming gangs more likely to be Pakistani of origin or not?

Answer
 
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PVA

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  • Today at 3:18 PM
  • #1,168
Grendel said:
So are grooming gangs more likely to be Pakistani of origin or not?

Answer
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'Answer' hahah the pomposity and pretentiousness is off the scale, state of it

In some areas yes - as the report says.
 

Grendel

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  • Today at 3:23 PM
  • #1,169
PVA said:
'Answer' hahah the pomposity and pretentiousness is off the scale, state of it

In some areas yes - as the report says.
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What areas?
 
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mmttww

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  • Today at 4:40 PM
  • #1,170
Grendel said:
Im not windmilling anything. Pakistani men groom white vunerable girls - tell the victims it’s not racially motivated

Shame on you
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doesn't the article you shared conclude that grooming gangs chose who they abused based on how vulnerable the girls were or weren't? ('Type 1').

You might be right that it was racially motivated i.e. they chose white victims because they viewed them as lesser people than other ethnicities.

but you didn't start by talking about grooming gangs. You made a sweeping statement about how an ethnic group views another ethnic group.

You think Pakistani men groom white girls because they're white. If there's evidence, I'll read it. No one's arguing Pakistani men didn't groom white girls.

You think a large proportion of an ethnic group views white women as only existing for their sexual gratification. If there's evidence of that, I'll read it.

I'm replying to stuff you said. I read an article you shared. I asked a question or two. Your response is to go Game of Thrones and call people 'hapless'.
 

Grendel

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  • Today at 5:13 PM
  • #1,171
mmttww said:
doesn't the article you shared conclude that grooming gangs chose who they abused based on how vulnerable the girls were or weren't? ('Type 1').

You might be right that it was racially motivated i.e. they chose white victims because they viewed them as lesser people than other ethnicities.

but you didn't start by talking about grooming gangs. You made a sweeping statement about how an ethnic group views another ethnic group.

You think Pakistani men groom white girls because they're white. If there's evidence, I'll read it. No one's arguing Pakistani men didn't groom white girls.

You think a large proportion of an ethnic group views white women as only existing for their sexual gratification. If there's evidence of that, I'll read it.

I'm replying to stuff you said. I read an article you shared. I asked a question or two. Your response is to go Game of Thrones and call people 'hapless'.
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I mean Pakistan men really respect women

https://qz.com/267305/how-pakistani-attitudes-toward-girls-contributed-to-the-abuse-in-rotherdam

You can take the Nazir Afdal view if you like but I find it reprehensible you even question it.
 

Grendel

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  • 40 minutes ago
  • #1,172
SBT said:
I swear your filibustering never used to be this obvious, you run out of steam so quickly these days
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Well one things first certain. If someone says nasty words to me I won’t cry like a baby and disappear for six months.
 
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SBT

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  • 31 minutes ago
  • #1,173
Grendel said:
Well one things first certain. If someone says nasty words to me I won’t cry like a baby and disappear for six months.
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More’s the pity…you could never live without it though!
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • 24 minutes ago
  • #1,174
Grendel said:
So do you agree with the comments made in the Casey report on ethnicity being a major factor - is she wrong?
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The most recent meta analysis we have from the Home Office says that the evidence base is too weak to make generalisations.
 
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