Danceswithhorses
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Good point...and being in the Championship would inflate the transfer fees (compared to div 1) that we could screw out of other clubs (bizarrely for essentially the same player)
Good point...and being in the Championship would inflate the transfer fees (compared to div 1) that we could screw out of other clubs (bizarrely for essentially the same player)Dabo, McCallum, Godden, Westbrooke, Rose, Hyam all worth fees if we need it. Jones if he can prove his fitness again and Shipley if his trajectory continues. I think that having that many saleable assets highlights the squad is in a good position to step up a level with a few astute signings.
Absolute nonsense as if that convo even took place lol
I also heard that Liverpool couldn't afford to win the Premiership last year, which is why they pulled back. But were promised that the money was there to win it this year, which is why they are now 10 points clear.
Well they didn’t because they are still putting money in every year to keep us afloat
Yes and like another poster pointed out, we’d take the extra income while keeping the investment in the squad the same.
Anyway, when/if we do get promoted to the Championship we will be one of the favourites to go down whatever the case
Wow, when you put it like that...that's so clearly unfair to all but the relegated teams.Suppose Bournemouth went down this season and we went up. Their TV money alone is about 25 times our turnover even with the shit gates they have. Even after relegation they’d still get £40-50 million in the first parachute payment
Brentford do well, on a small wage bill il find out what it is, I believe its the smallest in the division
It's less about which players would stand out more of the team being more than the sum of its parts. This group of players have gelled, they understand the system, and are playing some really high quality football. I think we would be more than good enough to survive the first season.
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True, but not every team has just been relegated.Wow, when you put it like that...that's so clearly unfair to all but the relegated teams.
Might mean Callum Wilson is sold though ?
True, but not every team has just been relegated.
We've got to hope for promotion, then a season (or 2 or 3..) of consolidation in the champ, finishing between 10th and 19th, hoping the ground situation resolved itself and we become gradually stronger as a team.
I would expect our team (with a few ins and outs) to cope with the lower half of champ.
How long robins would get from the fans if he was fighting relegation each season is another question!
As always it will be down to good management like Chris Wilder, linked with us once, has proved at Sheffield United, good recruitment and clever use of the loan market and don’t laugh good support from our owner.
Some good points here.Pretty much every team that has the lowest wage bill goes down within a season or two and they are around 300% of our wage bill
I was going to start a thread on it asking Van we afford it or not - if I had no doubt Harvey and Danny would misread it and ably assisted by Cockney Cov when on the Tenants Super reduced it to playground insults
now it’s been done it’s a point of worthy discussion
The self sustainability model doesn’t work in the championship - climbs like reading have close to £40m
It’s highly probable we would go down and then there is a whole new debate. Should the club try and survive by competing? As the owners have no investment capacity left do we - as Burton did - use the extra £6 million on wages. If we do and go down we’d need an instant return or would be in severe financial strife
Sheffield United performed miracles to go up but for context the wage bill was seven times ours
We would need a sugar daddy. It’s a weird weird kind of financial purgatory isn’t it, the championship.Pretty much every team that has the lowest wage bill goes down within a season or two and they are around 300% of our wage bill
I was going to start a thread on it asking Van we afford it or not - if I had no doubt Harvey and Danny would misread it and ably assisted by Cockney Cov when on the Tenants Super reduced it to playground insults
now it’s been done it’s a point of worthy discussion
The self sustainability model doesn’t work in the championship - climbs like reading have close to £40m
It’s highly probable we would go down and then there is a whole new debate. Should the club try and survive by competing? As the owners have no investment capacity left do we - as Burton did - use the extra £6 million on wages. If we do and go down we’d need an instant return or would be in severe financial strife
Sheffield United performed miracles to go up but for context the wage bill was seven times ours
That’s what I thought, we’re not a threat to them atm being in different leagues but I can’t see them being too welcoming if we’re competing for the same points in the same divisionThe other issue which I have alluded yo is would Birmingham want is there if we are competing in the same division?
Would it mean a move even further away
Who knows - how much are they earning from us (is it about a million)? If so, can they afford to not accept it?The other issue which I have alluded yo is would Birmingham want is there if we are competing in the same division?
Would it mean a move even further away
Some good points here.
I've just checked statzone (a couple of years out of date), but looks at trends of relegation following promotion. 40 per cent chance of relegation once getting to premier, but a out 20 per cent for the championship. Whilst we won't be a strong team, two other teams coming up with us and some weakish teams already present.
So, perhaps not probable but possible for relegation...if that makes us any happier!
If it's a lack of revenue at the Ricoh, I'd assume our lot are hoping that Wasps would be in enough of a financially challenged position to take a reasonable rent deal plus a worth while cut of the match day income and any related sponsorship that having CCFC as a tennant would generate. While that might get the club on a better footing to tread water, we've never really challenged for the Champ play offs before, even when playing in Cov. Without some investment in the squad or some bored billionare arab flashing some cash, SISU will be clicking their heels forever and will never make their money back.The point is though that the revenue we’d make at the Ricoh versus here is minimal - with away support we’d get 10,000 plus a game
The deal to go back would be far more than we paid before we left as well
Would Birmingham want us there if in the same division though?
What threat are we by being in the same ground?That’s what I thought, we’re not a threat to them atm being in different leagues but I can’t see them being too welcoming if we’re competing for the same points in the same division
What threat are we by being in the same ground?
We aren't going to steal fans, we give them some of our revenue - both help them.
If we played at (for example, not a suggestion!), Walkers crisp bowl, they lose revenue and we still play away from cov.
If Sisi continue with the reported not investing or withdrawing funds, what happens to the extra money?The real issue is though do we gamble and spend the money on wages. We would not be able to remotely compete with what we have now. Use the TV Money and it’s possible but still will be a dogfight
Millwall seem to have found a way to Sri I around a bit on low crowds and they have £14 million bill
True, but if we get promoted, they are competing with us regardless. 'helping' us by hosting our home games is nice - but they are getting money that helps their club.That if we got promoted we would be competing in the same league for the same points.
They’re 17th atm so it doesn’t look like they’re going up anytime soon
True, but if we get promoted, they are competing with us regardless. 'helping' us by hosting our home games is nice - but they are getting money that helps their club.
If they think it'll make a difference to how they compete in the league, of course they won't accept. I just think, financially, it would be a bonus for them, helping to afford more wages on better players to compete against us!
Extra policing we would pay for (I think), local residents...clubs don't always seem to care about - the embarrassment is probably the biggest issue for them!The issues will be extra policing, more disrupted weekends for residents, the home game against them and the risk we could do better than them which would be an embarrassment
The real issue is though do we gamble and spend the money on wages. We would not be able to remotely compete with what we have now. Use the TV Money and it’s possible but still will be a dogfight
Millwall seem to have found a way to Sri I around a bit on low crowds and they have £14 million bill
just being back in championship makes us an option for perspective new owners tbhUnless we get some rich tycoon willing to throw money at us I never want to see us gambling with money we don't have again.
Anyone advocating doing so must be totally oblivious to what's gone on at the club in the last 20 years.
just being back in championship makes us an option for perspective new owners tbh
no matter if you dream of promotion to prem or are sure we will get relegated back down to league 1 i think we can all agree its still somewhere we want to be next season so should look forward to it not fear it
hopefully we can get back to cov for it too on favourable terms
Wow, when you put it like that...that's so clearly unfair to all but the relegated teams.
Might mean Callum Wilson is sold though ?
Helped Sunderland didn’t itSuppose Bournemouth went down this season and we went up. Their TV money alone is about 25 times our turnover even with the shit gates they have. Even after relegation they’d still get £40-50 million in the first parachute payment
Some good points here.
I've just checked statzone (a couple of years out of date), but looks at trends of relegation following promotion. 40 per cent chance of relegation once getting to premier, but a out 20 per cent for the championship. Whilst we won't be a strong team, two other teams coming up with us and some weakish teams already present.
So, perhaps not probable but possible for relegation...if that makes us any happier!
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