Moff
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Well it appears your experience was different to mine, but thanks for pointing it out. :banghead:
From my experience most non CCFC fans know we moved away but had no idea what the reasoning was.
Depending on the terms...
If there is 1 stadium, the football league can't force a deal there. They can't stop a move can they?
If wasps won't do a deal, the FL won't stop a move.Yes they can stop a move.
No they can't force a deal.
How can they stop it then if wasps won't do a deal?Yes they can stop a move.
No they can't force a deal.
Simple solution, stop the litigation and they will. Sisu have engineered a catch 22 situation for themselves. How many times have they had to climb down so far?How can they stop it then if wasps won't do a deal?
Thats if you believe wasps on this excuse. I don't buy it, I think its a delaying tactic to distress and force the club into a position where it has no choice but to agree a signifcantly more expensive rental deal on worse terms.Simple solution, stop the litigation and they will. Sisu have engineered a catch 22 situation for themselves. How many times have they had to climb down so far?
Thats if you believe wasps on this excuse. I don't buy it, I think its a delaying tactic to distress and force the club into a position where it has no choice but to agree a signifcantly more expensive rental deal on worse terms.
The legals are BS in my view, which seems to stack up with what Steve from the trust posted here last week.
In any case the football league won't force sisu to stop the legals, as much as we don't like it, they are entitled to pursue the legals if they wish.
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Why? If Wasps don't need us here and we're making little difference to their finances why do they need to hike the rent up?It's not going to be 100k forever is it?
Why? If Wasps don't need us here and we're making little difference to their finances why do they need to hike the rent up?
Why? If Wasps don't need us here and we're making little difference to their finances why do they need to hike the rent up?
You can't be wrong on charging a high rent until you actually do it surely ?Fans are happy that SISU didn't obtain the Ricoh as they would just charge the club an extortionate amount of rent.
Fans weren't happy that SISU stopped to pay an extortionate amount of rent to ACL.
Fans aren't happy that SISU are negotiating a deal with Wasps which will be an extortionate amount of rent.
I wish these said fans would take their blinkers off and see that SISU aren't the only ones in the wrong in this mess.
So to be clear Wasps are lying when they state what an insignificance we are and you want them to take us over so they can whack the rent up shrinking our budget but making money for them.Whatever we pay makes a difference by whatever we pay (calculation figures available )
£500,000 a year pays some of the bond interest as well strangely.
You do make me laugh
So to be clear Wasps are lying when they state what an insignificance we are and you want them to take us over so they can whack the rent up shrinking our budget but making money for them.
They might charge a fair price. They might have a sliding scale depending on what league we are in. If they own us they might charge a peppercorn tent.So to be clear Wasps are lying when they state what an insignificance we are and you want them to take us over so they can whack the rent up shrinking our budget but making money for them.
If you actually read it I wasn't the one making the supposition.There you go again! wtf is wrong with you, supposition again!
It's not going to be 100k forever is it?
£500,000 a year
I asked why they would want to buy us and you mentioned £500K a year so I'm not sure how you then work out it is me suggesting they would charge us an excessive rent.But hey we have no idea yet so assume they will buy us and then put us out of business by charging excessive rent.
Granted.Y
You can't be wrong on charging a high rent until you actually do it surely ?
Granted.
You can guarantee me that Wasps will renew the lease with CCFC at the current rate then?
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If wasps won't do a deal, the FL won't stop a move.
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How can they stop it then if wasps won't do a deal?
To the area that is isn't it?What's Wasps are or aren't doing is completely irrelevant.
They key factor is our ability and intention to return.
Why? If Wasps don't need us here and we're making little difference to their finances why do they need to hike the rent up?
To the area that is isn't it?
I'd think more £750-800k pa, 20 years no breakoit clause.You may well be right but why don't sisu call their bluff then and say hang on we were told by wasps in writing and the articles we could get a deal.
What's a worser deal anyway? 300k - 400k? It's not going to be 100k forever is it?
You're forgetting that the club have been keeping the FL in the loop and as present thr FL seem happy with the (non)progress. So what do you think they will do if wasps won't negotiate? They can't force wasps to negotiate. So its either allow us another temporary move or expel us from the football league. When weighing up those 2 option, there is only one they can take - it will be another temporary move to sixfields or a.n.other stadium. There's more than enough facts and supposition for the FL to make this decision.The club will not be allowed to move unless it provides concrete prove of its intent and capability to return to Coventry. Irrespective of what's Wasps are doing or anyone else for that matter.
You're forgetting that the club have been keeping the FL in the loop and as present thr FL seem happy with the (non)progress. So what do you think they will do if wasps won't negotiate? They can't force wasps to negotiate. So its either allow us another temporary move or expel us from the football league. When weighing up those 2 option, there is only one they can take - it will be another temporary move to sixfields or a.n.other stadium. There's more than enough facts and supposition for the FL to make this decision.
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One thing nobody seems to be accounting for is the likelihood of legal action by SISU against the FL if they kick us out. The FL will be desperate to avoid that so are likely to agree to pretty much anything.It does no good guessing what the FL will do,
How can that happen, the rules are there in black and white and been observed for years. Ccfc got the olive branch two years ago and its chairman assured everyone, a new ground was happening. Unless I have missed something it looks to me the FL have bent over backwards to assist ccfc.One thing nobody seems to be accounting for is the likelihood of legal action by SISU against the FL if they kick us out. The FL will be desperate to avoid that so are likely to agree to pretty much anything.
The FL can use their discretion. SISU can claim they had nowhere in the city to play and the FL forced them out of business.How can that happen, the rules are there in black and white and been observed for years.
Stupot there are rules and the football league will act once the rules are broken, other members might complain the rules have been broken and the League are duty bound to act. There are plenty of long standing ex football league clubs in the league below division 2 so being refused the Golden Share is a real possibility. That I think would happen long before the end of next season and would certainly put a cat amongst the pigeons, players union amongst others will be asking questions for their soon to be unemployed members. I think this will get a bit dirty and nerve racking but I also think we'll be okay eventually.
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