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shmmeee

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #421
Bin him. Yes he’s a kid but the way kids learn lessons is through punishment. Football is desperate for players, being a rapist doesn’t stop you succeeding these days so I wouldn’t worry about him not playing if he’s good enough, but we need to take a stand or this shit will creep through the squad b
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #422
shmmeee said:
Bin him. Yes he’s a kid but the way kids learn lessons is through punishment. Football is desperate for players, being a rapist doesn’t stop you succeeding these days so I wouldn’t worry about him not playing if he’s good enough, but we need to take a stand or this shit will creep through the squad b
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Well, as someone who used to commission parenting programmes I’m not sure I can agree with your first statement but I think it’s right that he should be released. Possibly for his own good!
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #423
Wonder if Icky muffa fuckin ickman is back at ryton
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #424
I’ve heard he came back today.
 

eastwoodsdustman

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #425
Sbarcher said:
Ccfc carrying out an investigation according to the CT.
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Hickman will be hoping they employ lego hair to carry out the investigation.
'Have a nice holiday jack ?'
'Yes thanks Simon'
' ok nothing to answer for'
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #426
eastwoodsdustman said:
Hickman will be hoping they employ lego hair to carry out the investigation.
'Have a nice holiday jack ?'
'Yes thanks Simon'
' ok nothing to answer for'
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*Jak
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #427
Terry_dactyl said:
Well, as someone who used to commission parenting programmes I’m not sure I can agree with your first statement but I think it’s right that he should be released. Possibly for his own good!
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You think kids don’t need boundaries and you used to commission parenting programs?

 

kg82

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #428
shmmeee said:
You think kids don’t need boundaries and you used to commission parenting programs?

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You said punishment!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #429
kg82 said:
You said punishment!
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How do you enforce boundaries without punishment?

I’m not saying hit them with sticks, could be anything from removing attention to grounding them.
 

tisza

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #430
shmmeee said:
You think kids don’t need boundaries and you used to commission parenting programs?

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you'll get me on my middle age rant. Everyone needs boundaries.
problem is in modern society far too often they are not enforced - be it by parents, schools, police, courts etc.
As far as Hickman goes. All these players have it drummed into them by the clubs and professional consultants etc. about the standards of behave required for professional footballers.
 
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oucho

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #431
shmmeee said:
Bin him. Yes he’s a kid but the way kids learn lessons is through punishment. Football is desperate for players, being a rapist doesn’t stop you succeeding these days so I wouldn’t worry about him not playing if he’s good enough, but we need to take a stand or this shit will creep through the squad b
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I don't agree - if we would otherwise keep him, then a reprimand is the more appropriate thing to do.

Let's face it, there's not a 17-year-old alive who hasn't talked a load of rubbish after a few beers in the sun with their mates, then felt mortified the next day when it turns out there's video evidence seen beyond those present. His apology seemed sincere enough to me; if the club agree then give him an official warning, keep him on the books and move on.
 
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better days

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #432
We all have to be grown up about this
The lad made a silly mistake
He definitely wasn't on drugs - it was snus added to stupid boozing
The PFA will be involved so I'd guess it will be 2 weeks salary
But he'll now have to be on his best behaviour x 10 to get a 2nd chance
 
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fatso

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #433
oucho said:
I don't agree - if we would otherwise keep him, then a reprimand is the more appropriate thing to do.

Let's face it, there's not a 17-year-old alive who hasn't talked a load of rubbish after a few beers in the sun with their mates, then felt mortified the next day when it turns out there's video evidence seen beyond those present. His apology seemed sincere enough to me; if the club agree then give him an official warning, keep him on the books and move on.
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If you want a pro contract your expected to behave accordingly.
If this kind of behaviour is excused without a termination of contract, then you really cant expect other youngsters to learn that there are consequences to their actions
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #434
shmmeee said:
You think kids don’t need boundaries and you used to commission parenting programs?

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You said “the way kids learn is through punishment”...praise, play etc etc?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #435
Terry_dactyl said:
You said “the way kids learn is through punishment”...praise, play etc etc?
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I meant “learn their lesson” as in where the boundaries are. And no purely positive reenforcement doesn’t work. You need to catch them being good sure, but it takes carrot and stick IMO.

Yes, I think that when an attitude like this arises in a small group it needs knocking on its head ASAP. Hickman hasn’t been pushing the first team and is at the shit or get off the pot stage of his career.

Too many of our young players fuck it up by thinking they’re Johnny big time. Stick a head on a spike and maybe it’ll make a few of them think how lucky they are to be in that position.

As I say Hickman will be fine if he’s got the talent, but he’s not worth the risk to the wider cause IMHO.
 

skyblueeyesrevisited

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #436
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Wonder if Icky muffa fuckin ickman is back at ryton
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More likely on love island
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #437
Think it would be a good idea for him to make a contribution to the season ticket fund. Get the fans back on side.
 

mrtrench

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #438
Read an interesting story today in the newspaper: nurseries no longer use the naughty step and will not call a child naughty:

https://www.daynurseries.co.uk/news...nurseries-ban-word-naughty-ditch-naughty-step
 

kg82

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  • Jun 27, 2019
  • #439
shmmeee said:
How do you enforce boundaries without punishment?

I’m not saying hit them with sticks, could be anything from removing attention to grounding them.
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But that’s not what you said. I’m just pointing out that saying kids learn through punishment is a lot different to setting boundaries.
 
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higgs

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  • Jun 28, 2019
  • #440
We owe this lad nothing bin him we are already a laughing stock of a club without our own players taking the piss out of us

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kg82

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  • Jun 28, 2019
  • #441
higgs said:
We owe this lad nothing bin him we are already a laughing stock of a club without our own players taking the piss out of us

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Laughing stock to who, apart from a few morons?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 28, 2019
  • #442
higgs said:
We owe this lad nothing bin him we are already a laughing stock of a club without our own players taking the piss out of us

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Think you’re overestimating Hickman’s and Coventry City’s reach. We’re not a laughing stock because of this incident.

Christ if we’re going on social media - Jesse Lingards the big news in that area
 

higgs

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  • Jun 28, 2019
  • #443
kg82 said:
Laughing stock to who, apart from a few morons?
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Laughing stock because a London rugby team are after evicting us out of our own stadium

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kg82

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  • Jun 28, 2019
  • #444
higgs said:
Laughing stock because a London rugby team are after evicting us out of our own stadium

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Do you really think anybody cares apart from us? Most are sympathetic. It’s a few idiots that it amuses and they’re the sort that laugh at child immigrants dying crossing the channel, so who really gives a damn about those sort of people.
 
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shelby76

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  • Jun 28, 2019
  • #445
It's not like he fucking raped someone!! He just got mashed up on holiday and talked some shit! Let him crack on.. hopefully he has learned, his whole family are suffering I would guess why punish them as well they sacrificed taking him to training 3 nights a week plus games, Hickman has sacrificed most of his life to play football, we don't have the right to take that away from him for something as stupid as that.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 28, 2019
  • #446
shelby76 said:
his whole family are suffering
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How are his family suffering?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 28, 2019
  • #447
chiefdave said:
How are his family suffering?
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His mum put her back out trying to put his jeans in the wash because of the heavy pockets.
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Jun 28, 2019
  • #448
Nick said:
His mum put her back out trying to put his jeans in the wash because of the heavy pockets.
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She's also had to give up her job and become a full time baby sitter because of all the birds he's been shaggin'
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Jul 4, 2019
  • #449
Fines two weeks wages and placed on the transfer list.

STATEMENT: Jak Hickman

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rob9872

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  • Jul 4, 2019
  • #450
In fairness, mum jokes apart, it's his family that I have sympathy for. They will have invested a lot of time in his career running him all over the place and likely given him a decent grounding for him to fek it up in one stupid drunken moment. I'm actually quite disappointed we didn't simply fine him and tell him to get his head down and work harder and some community work, but I guess it doesn't send the right message to the rest of the U18/U23 players.
 
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Sterling Archer

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  • Jul 4, 2019
  • #451
I hate to speculate but could the harshness of the transfer listing be down to maybe this isn't an isolated incident?
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Jul 4, 2019
  • #452
Sterling Archer said:
I hate to speculate but could the harshness of the transfer listing be down to maybe this isn't an isolated incident?
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Transfer listed as harsh? He should've been sacked!

I think he has got off lightly personally.

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rob9872

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  • Jul 4, 2019
  • #453
skyblue1991 said:
Transfer listed as harsh? He should've been sacked!

I think he has got off lightly personally.

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I assume if we sack him we're not entitled to any payments should he actually become successful.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 4, 2019
  • #454
rob9872 said:
I assume if we sack him we're not entitled to any payments should he actually become successful.
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Plus football player seems to be a job where its near impossible to be sacked.
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Jul 4, 2019
  • #455
rob9872 said:
I assume if we sack him we're not entitled to any payments should he actually become successful.
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I think if he was good enough he would've had a run out in the first team.

We sacked Kevin Thornton in 2009 and he was a very talented player who I'm sure would've gone on to bigger and better things if he kept his head down!

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