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Deity

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,531
SkyBlueTam said:
He only cost us a million, so if he runs down his contract we've had four years value from that at 250K a season + wages, what a bargain that's been.

I say let him run down his contract and hope he does the business for us this year.
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Financial roulette with the odds against us.

we shouldn’t run the club like that.

If we sell him now we can reinvest the proceeds now and in January to strengthen the team and replace Hamer. When he walks for free his will we fund his replacement ???
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,532
edgy said:
I've been away and may have missed this. Where has Gus said he wants to run his deal down?
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I don't think he has! I suspect by the fact that there appears to be noise about him not wanting to sign and an article in the press recently about wanting to play in Holland again, that people are drawing their own conclusions.
 
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Bertola

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,533
What's to say we can't sell him in January?

Give us a few months, see how we're looking. If we're looking good, stay for the year, if not, sell up (albeit for a lower fee than we could get now) and we should still be able to make a profit
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,534
Bertola said:
What's to say we can't sell him in January?
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The Bosman ruling
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,535
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not playing enough friendlies leads to squad being short of fitness? Shocked
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Very true and bring in new players just before the season starts doesn't help.
 

Bertola

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,536
robbiekeane said:
The Bosman ruling
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His contract doesn't end in Jan. We could potentially sell him for a nominal fee. Clubs might risk chucking a couple of million our way to jump ahead of other teams in the queue for him
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,537
SkyBlueTam said:
He only cost us a million, so if he runs down his contract we've had four years value from that at 250K a season + wages, what a bargain that's been.
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Don't think that's how the song goes m8
 
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coop

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,538
If Gus wants to run his contract down there is nothing we as a club can if a £10 million bid comes in it will be up to him if he wants move or not .So the theory that his girlfriend and son have gone back to Holland why wouldn't he see his contract out then go to a Dutch club close to where his son lives in the summer.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,539
edgy said:
I've been away and may have missed this. Where has Gus said he wants to run his deal down?
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He hasn’t. People seem to have made up this complete fantasy that he’s running down his contract so he can move to the Netherlands when literally no-one has reported it as factual and it’s pretty clear from what Robins has said that he’s had his head turned by big money contract offers.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,540
edgy said:
I've been away and may have missed this. Where has Gus said he wants to run his deal down?
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That’s the rumours. No one’s said nothing officially.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,541
SeaSeeEffCee said:
He hasn’t. People seem to have made up this complete fantasy that he’s running down his contract so he can move to the Netherlands when literally no-one has reported it as factual and it’s pretty clear from what Robins has said that he’s had his head turned by big money contract offers.
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That’s not “pretty clear” that’s you reading what you want into the vaguest of vague comments.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,542
The only thing we know is that Hamer likes playing golf.

The rest is pure speculation.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 10, 2023
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If one player makes the difference between us making a promotion challenge or not, we probably need to sell that player to build the squad.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,544
Bertola said:
His contract doesn't end in Jan. We could potentially sell him for a nominal fee. Clubs might risk chucking a couple of million our way to jump ahead of other teams in the queue for him
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If we don't sell him for a fee by the end of August (or whenever the window closes), we'll lose him for nothing.

In January he can see a pre-contract agreement with a club to join him at the end of the season. If he wants to go in January, no club will pay a fee when they'll get him for nothing in 6 months time.
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,545
SkyBlueTam said:
He only cost us a million, so if he runs down his contract we've had four years value from that at 250K a season + wages, what a bargain that's been.

I say let him run down his contract and hope he does the business for us this year.
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The danger of running the contract down is injury, one bad tackle towards the end of the season his career could get fucked over
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 10, 2023
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Skyblueweeman said:
If we don't sell him for a fee by the end of August (or whenever the window closes), we'll lose him for nothing.

In January he can see a pre-contract agreement with a club to join him at the end of the season. If he wants to go in January, no club will pay a fee when they'll get him for nothing in 6 months time.
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We did for Boateng. Really was nominal in context though.
 
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djr8369

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,547
skyblueelephant76 said:
Leicester played 4 friendlies, the same as us.
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They looked much fitter and stronger by the end of the game.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 10, 2023
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djr8369 said:
They looked much fitter and stronger by the end of the game.
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We seem to gear our training to finishing the season stronger tbf.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,549
Deleted member 5849 said:
We did for Boateng. Really was nominal in context though.
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Your memory is better than mine in that case.

And yep, I guess if he doesn't go before the end of the month (and doesn't sign an extension), he'll leave for nothing/virtually nothing.
 

Chris1987

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,550
The issue is the state of limbo we are in currently. The longer the situation continues the more problematic it becomes in my opinion. A departure close to the window closing makes bringing new faces in more difficult. Just wish it could be resolved sooner rather than later either way so at least we would know which direction things were going.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Aug 10, 2023
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Deleted member 5849 said:
If one player makes the difference between us making a promotion challenge or not, we probably need to sell that player to build the squad.
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Except we can't unless he wants to go.
 

fatso

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,552
skyblueelephant76 said:
Leicester played 4 friendlies, the same as us.
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Their last friendly was against Liverpool.
Ours was against Exeter.

No wonder they looked better prepared.

And we had players in our squad who hadn't even kicked a ball in pre season.
 

mmttww

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,553
Deleted member 5849 said:
If one player makes the difference between us making a promotion challenge or not, we probably need to sell that player to build the squad.
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This is a really good point.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,554
Deleted member 5849 said:
If one player makes the difference between us making a promotion challenge or not, we probably need to sell that player to build the squad.
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Or get promoted and build an even better squad.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,555
fatso said:
Their last friendly was against Liverpool.
Ours was against Exeter.

No wonder they looked better prepared.

And we had players in our squad who hadn't even kicked a ball in pre season.
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Are you going on about this still? They’re just a better team than us.

Also

1) It was in Singapore as part of an Asian tour (we can’t afford that)
2) They’ve built a fan base over there (we don’t)
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Aug 10, 2023
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shmmeee said:
Or get promoted and build an even better squad.
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Indeed and it may be that we have no option than to try this.
 

skyblueelephant76

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,557
fatso said:
Their last friendly was against Liverpool.
Ours was against Exeter.

No wonder they looked better prepared.

And we had players in our squad who hadn't even kicked a ball in pre season.
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In what way did they look better prepared? We should have won the game.
 
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fatso

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,558
skyblueelephant76 said:
In what way did they look better prepared? We should have won the game.
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But we didn't because we were fucked after 70 minutes,
we weren't sharp enough up front and our best player went off with tight calves.
We brought 2 players on who hadn't played a single friendly for us, and we ended up with nothing from the game.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,559
coop said:
Tyler Adam signing for Chelsea .Leeds will be after Gus now I think,I don't want him to go to Leeds fricking hate Leeds GRRRRRR
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,560
fatso said:
But we didn't because we were fucked after 70 minutes,
we weren't sharp enough up front and our best player went off with tight calves.
We brought 2 players on who hadn't played a single friendly for us, and we ended up with nothing from the game.
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If we'd played Liverpool our forwards wouldn't have had a kick so wouldn't have been any sharper.

Gus was late starting preseason so wasn't 100% fit and the two subs couldn't play in any friendlies (one of them also hit the bar and almost won us the game).

Fitness wasn't the issue, they just had better players who produced two moments of quality.

Leicester also started a player that hadn't played a single friendly for them.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 10, 2023
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skyblueelephant76 said:
If we'd played Liverpool our forwards wouldn't have had a kick so wouldn't have been any sharper.

Gus was late starting preseason so wasn't 100% fit and the two subs couldn't play in any friendlies (one of them also hit the bar and almost won us the game).

Fitness wasn't the issue, they just had better players who produced two moments of quality.

Leicester also started a player that hadn't played a single friendly for them.
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Our midfield 3 struggled in the last 20 minutes, it is undeniable. Look at the time Praet had to cross for the first.

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skyblueelephant76

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  • Aug 10, 2023
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fernandopartridge said:
Our midfield 3 struggled in the last 20 minutes, it is undeniable. Look at the time Praet had to cross for the first.

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That's probably going to happen when the opposition brings on £45m worth of players
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,563
skyblueelephant76 said:
That's probably going to happen when the opposition brings on £45m worth of players
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Our players are less fit because of the transfer fees paid for some of the opposition
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 10, 2023
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This thread's open question is about to be answered and it's probably not the answer we all wanted
 
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koelarc

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  • Aug 10, 2023
  • #5,565
skyblueelephant76 said:
In what way did they look better prepared? We should have won the game.
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All their shirts had the sponsor on?
 
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