NortonSkyBlue
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I raise you John Gayle with a honourable mention to Dave Bamber.
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Ccfcisparks
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He was later 30's with kids im sure he said
cooperskyblue
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What? Based on hearsay, and rumours. The transfer window has been opened 1 day. Why not wait and see the shape of the team come the first game of the season and then make a fair judgement?
Negativity & criticism now just feels pointless when the off-season is still in its infancy.
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SlowerThanPlatt
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Was obsessed with this bloke for 6 months
Armand Gnanduillet ?
Released from Turkish club scored plenty for Blackpool and others at lower levels Ivory Coast/French 6’4 striker,always thought he was a good player and a real handful when we played against him reminded me of a league 1 Drogba...does what we expect Baka & Max,could be worth a punt as mentioned...
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Matt smith
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Haha you’re getting boring
I genuinely signed up to SBT on the same day someone left so I’m automatically this person
get a life
Matt smith
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Yeah fair comment
just frustrated if what is being quoted is true as we need to keep hamer at all costs
Northeast sky blue
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You're not one on your own, but it's the same every close season and it usually turns out alright
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GIMOC
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the transfer window is irrelevant in a way. he’s still got a year left on his current contract but the longer negotiations stall the likelihood of him being here come august is smaller. sooner we can get this resolved the better for all parties
skybluestub
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I think we have to secure Gus, £20k isn't a terrifying leap. He is integral to the team, more so than Vik. When we needed players to step up, he did.
Sheaf under contract until 2026, Eccles under contract until 2027. Add Gus into the mix with a new deal, we have a solid base in the middle of the park.
Look at the extra revenue generated from ST's, corporate prices rocketing and potentially a decent chunk in for Vik, not to mention the shirt sales (particularly with Hamer 38 on the back for kids with Gyokeres going!) it would be a travesty if weren't able to get this one over the line, assuming the desire is there from Gus to stay.
I realise there are concerns with regards to sustainability with such an increase, but look at the player he is. He's like a Duracell bunny on heat, he's everywhere. Assists, goals, defensively sound, key set piece taker.
All of the above, and having him under contract drives his price up, whereas come January (assuming he doesn't go this summer) European clubs can come a knocking.
IMO, if truly the ambition is there to be knocking on the play-off door again, this needs to be done, and quickly.
Sheaf under contract until 2026, Eccles under contract until 2027. Add Gus into the mix with a new deal, we have a solid base in the middle of the park.
Look at the extra revenue generated from ST's, corporate prices rocketing and potentially a decent chunk in for Vik, not to mention the shirt sales (particularly with Hamer 38 on the back for kids with Gyokeres going!) it would be a travesty if weren't able to get this one over the line, assuming the desire is there from Gus to stay.
I realise there are concerns with regards to sustainability with such an increase, but look at the player he is. He's like a Duracell bunny on heat, he's everywhere. Assists, goals, defensively sound, key set piece taker.
All of the above, and having him under contract drives his price up, whereas come January (assuming he doesn't go this summer) European clubs can come a knocking.
IMO, if truly the ambition is there to be knocking on the play-off door again, this needs to be done, and quickly.
Flying Fokker
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I hope the last season‘s momentum continues. I’d sign him up on his terms ref wages but then have a release clause of 35million and massive insurance if he becomes injured. Offer him 4 years.
cooperskyblue
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I don't disagree. Hamer is quality and I think we should be building the side around him too. Securing him to a new deal protects his value.
It would cost us more to buy a replacement and pay them than it would to give Hamer this new deal over 2 or 3 years.
I hope King can get Hamer deal sorted.
Any further increase could be predicated on Vik going for decent fee etc. let’s see it all play out before getting too excited
If rumours correct, not a million miles away which is positive so still a possible deal to be done. I’d probably go to 20k as much to enhance/protect his value but also understand the club wanting to retain some kind of structure. Alternatively could slap some massive incentives in there to protect the club ie 16-17k plus 500k+ on promotion or extra 3k-4k per game. Could also put a very reasonable sale price clause ie 15m next summer so he can get a kicker from buying club if he has another great season. Plenty of options to hopefully get to an agreement…assuming both really want one
Ps I wouldn’t be surprised if the ohare situation has made the club very wary
If rumours correct, not a million miles away which is positive so still a possible deal to be done. I’d probably go to 20k as much to enhance/protect his value but also understand the club wanting to retain some kind of structure. Alternatively could slap some massive incentives in there to protect the club ie 16-17k plus 500k+ on promotion or extra 3k-4k per game. Could also put a very reasonable sale price clause ie 15m next summer so he can get a kicker from buying club if he has another great season. Plenty of options to hopefully get to an agreement…assuming both really want one
Ps I wouldn’t be surprised if the ohare situation has made the club very wary
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Flying Fokker
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That’s another reason to agree on Hamer. He’s going to cost an extra 200k per year…Gyo will be sold for 100+ times more than this sum.
SlowerThanPlatt
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Why would a Championship players agent agree to a £35m release clause? A club wouldn’t pay half that for him
RoboCCFC90
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Bang on this.
Hamer is integral to CCFC, I am not keen on breaking the wage structure, but I'd be more flexible in doing so to tempt Hamer to stay.
Flying Fokker
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Who said 40k /week?
If the numbers were true I’d personally be tempted to give him the money as I think he’s a special player and as good as there is in this league.
However, there’s no point getting too wound to about it as even if they were true we don’t know the full context. For example, the club may have agreed as strict wage ceiling to avoid spiralling costs. It’s possible players and agents would know this. MR likely has a say and might have given a maximum figure where he would rather have the money absolve to bring in more players than keep one.
Those are just two possible scenarios.
However, there’s no point getting too wound to about it as even if they were true we don’t know the full context. For example, the club may have agreed as strict wage ceiling to avoid spiralling costs. It’s possible players and agents would know this. MR likely has a say and might have given a maximum figure where he would rather have the money absolve to bring in more players than keep one.
Those are just two possible scenarios.
Flying Fokker
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We have the player for longer? its more about retaining his services/ valuing his contribution amongst the team.
edgy
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Ignore ..... move on.
I’d love to keep him with a plan to becoming club captain but not at all costs. No point panicking. MR knew what cards he had to play and signed a long term contract. He will have a plan.
If down the line he feels he wasn’t backed he will drop subtle hints.
fernandopartridge
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Ironically 16k vs 20k was what kicked off Dublin's contract dispute bitd
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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As I said earlier - Didn’t Gary Breen want to re-sign on £25k a week and we wouldn’t budge from £20k
You saying hamers off to villa…..SBT meltdown !!!
Grendel
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he was on £10,000 two weeks ago
The Rebuild- Around Hamer and Sheaf
It would. £20k is not Premier League money though, it's good Championship money. He will be nearly on that anyway and if he was offered a better deal elsewhere why would he stay. No one stays for less - people are saying we should be chucking £40 - £50k a week - its fantasy land
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SlowerThanPlatt
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What’s £3,000 to Doug King?he was on £10,000 two weeks ago
The Rebuild- Around Hamer and Sheaf
It would. £20k is not Premier League money though, it's good Championship money. He will be nearly on that anyway and if he was offered a better deal elsewhere why would he stay. No one stays for less - people are saying we should be chucking £40 - £50k a week - its fantasy land
Skybluedownunder
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Until he gets sent off a couple of times and then he can fuck off again! Haha
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NorthernWisdom
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Well he clearly doesn't love the club that much if he's letting such a small difference stop him from signing a new contract with us.
mmttww
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Playing Devil's Advocate for a minute... we could offer him £20k a week, and he could decline it. He and the agent might just be stalling for time, or trying to make Hamer look like the good guy with reasonable demands. Agent might be a Tw*t that the club don't trust. If we're not budging because we're being rigid about a wage structure, I'll be gutted, but it might not be as clean cut as people seem to be assuming.
I made pretty much the same points above. No point flapping when we don’t know the details.
Ccfcisparks
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Gynnsthetonic
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I've heard Leicester have offered 45k a week, 65k if they get promoted, he doesn't want to leave just wants what he thinks he's worth.
